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asciilifeform: but where are the other insects, which -do- fly ?
mircea_popescu: maybe, but this cockroach doesn't fly.
asciilifeform: i'm frankly surprised that it hasn't been spammed to cinders
funkenstein_: easier to use pastebin or mega methinks
asciilifeform: there is no reason to wait!
asciilifeform: or is this, too, folks are waiting for me to do.
asciilifeform: (since sks will apparently host -anything- purporting to be a key)
asciilifeform: i bet a good chunk of those is stego blob
asciilifeform: has anyone contemplated collecting the set of sks keys which crash the parser ?
asciilifeform: if the enemy had any class to speak of, this'd be a master trolltron
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: speaking of 'hands off father's pistols,' i'm still waiting for a 'meta,' 'theevenmorerealbitcoin.org' which will take issue with the excision of 'orphans' etc
asciilifeform: (you craft a tx and feed it into the machine for signing, when you visit the darkroom)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'generate addr' for instance prevents the use of the hypothetical 'brainwallet' machine discussed earlier.
mircea_popescu: ergo, they're untouchable for now
mircea_popescu: there's a huge difference from taking out harmful stuff and taking out spurious stuff. these are never ghoing to be the first step, and we've not completed the first step yet
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how do you propose to create a backup that it won't affect ?
mircea_popescu: but anyway, the change address mechanism is bizarre, esp in its interraction with backups, but imo not actually doing anything bad. you shouldn't have backups that it affects negatively anyway, if you comprehend backups.
asciilifeform: but that's just me.
asciilifeform: i see the 'generate change addr' as a boobytrap for the unwary (and extra lines of code) with no rational justification for continued existence
mircea_popescu: but the rest can be shaved later
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: by that token, ought not to touch any of it, l0l
mircea_popescu: throwing out the pistols that are on fire is one thing
funkenstein_: by random change address, I thought you meant the order it is listed in the TX
asciilifeform: why keep a pistol that fires towards the hilt in your pistol collection ?
asciilifeform: did not say it has to be shot -today-.
mircea_popescu: alternatively we could just leave this be for now and focus on CLOSING things rather than opening new things before we closed anything. ☟︎
asciilifeform: this is why the cpu miner stays
asciilifeform: which means that it is a complete description of bitcoin.
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: we spoke of this. i say that'd be braindamaged, because we are maintaining a -reference client-
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: speaking here of the default 'sendtoaddress' behaviour.
funkenstein_: one solution is to just rip out all the wallet stuff completely
asciilifeform: i can't fathom how a serious bitcoin user would be willing to tolerate it.
asciilifeform: i have serious trouble grasping what justification there could possibly be for it
asciilifeform: thought that this was obvious to all
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the classical 'random change address' is absolutely lethal to wallet backups
funkenstein_: lifting all these blocks gonna give me a hearneia
asciilifeform: Vexual: just postulating that gavin & co would like to see blocks fill up, to help push their phork
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's the problem with it ?
asciilifeform: what of poorly designed services that connect a user's mouth to his own arse ?
Vexual: what of poorly designed services that might send unconfirmed amounts with fees then?
asciilifeform: i'm kinda surprised that gavin and his merry gnomish friends have not attempted to reinstate 'dust'
asciilifeform: Vexual: we're not in the business of trying to euchre strange into the network rules. for that, go straight to phoundation.
asciilifeform: other folks won't retransmit, because 'sheepskin not worth the tanning'
Vexual: yeah, that was more aabout the amount of alcohol reqd
asciilifeform: Vexual: none of this is 'matter of time.' if we shoot it in the head, it dies. otherwise - lives.
Vexual: what the foundation policy on sending small amounts?
Vexual: just a matter of time
asciilifeform: mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al: did we ever discuss nuking the 'randomized change address' thing ?
Vexual: hi, the amount of alcohol required to parse the logs is increasing
assbot: Logged on 10-06-2015 22:26:59; nubbins`: imagine being so empty of purpose that you put actual energy into creating internet fat shame memes
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-06-2015#1159915 << the problem with agreeing to become the ball in a game of liberasty football is that, well, folks will kick you ☝︎
asciilifeform: (number theorists in the audience, please ready your barf bags)
asciilifeform: not certain if we have a sufficiently large sample of these to make solid empirical conjecture
asciilifeform: although these, too, may have odd properties, being (as far as i can determine) mutilated versions of 'proper' ones
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: try confining the search to the non-mirrored moduli
assbot: The strange case of the unentropic entropy and other bedtime stories of primes and people. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1f3ZkFJ )
mircea_popescu: we currently have 29 like 4 times (expected 2ish) and 11 or 13 0 times
asciilifeform: so whence the 'divergence from expectation' ?
assbot: Logged on 10-06-2015 23:57:56; mircea_popescu: http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A76BF4503AE2C55107D537EDABB05BDFB3DB93A3CAF697C1C5073FDD9EEF8F4E << interesting how these cluster. now we have a pure M * 29. rather than 11 or 13 rounding out, we get 29 diverging even further from expectation.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-06-2015#1159963 << go ahead & generate a few million 4096-bit turds using your favourite /dev/random. see how many divisible by 29. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 10-06-2015 21:40:27; trinque: I'm skeptical of the american notion of individualism, but am not precisely sure how far to take that skepticism
funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-06-2015#1159811 <-- reminds me of a joke translated to me from mandarin ☝︎
funkenstein_: i can smell that sundae :)
assbot: The soft underbelly of hedonism, exposed. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1I2HiL0 )
mircea_popescu: and since we're talking art an' freedom, http://trilema.com/2014/the-soft-underbelly-of-hedonism-exposed/
mircea_popescu: http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A76BF4503AE2C55107D537EDABB05BDFB3DB93A3CAF697C1C5073FDD9EEF8F4E << interesting how these cluster. now we have a pure M * 29. rather than 11 or 13 rounding out, we get 29 diverging even further from expectation. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "we the people" misunderstood as "we the pointlessly hopeful and unwarrantedly aspirational"
assbot: reboot of the newly destroyed fatpeoplehate ... ( http://bit.ly/1I2Giq7 )
Pierre_Rochard: http://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplehate2/ < that was fast
funkenstein_: lol :) well this helps me understand what is meant by libertardicy
assbot: Logged on 10-06-2015 14:13:23; asciilifeform: ^^^ where the hell is my ticker ?!
mircea_popescu: (dali did a lot better, but dali quite specifically whored out to power rather than to plebes)
assbot: Logged on 10-06-2015 14:05:28; funkenstein_: Henry Miller goes on and on about his right to starve, rather unconvincingly
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-06-2015#1159143 << quite unconvincingly. the only reason that guy wasn't warhol is that at the time the libertard infrastructure did not exist that'd support a warhol. he tried and tried, but with libertardicy in its infancy he merely scraped by. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and in the same ol news, http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc29b0C5lR1rfma9no1_r1_500.gif
mircea_popescu: "The great thing about /r/fatpeoplehate was it was a prominent (6th most active) part of an extremely popular website. This is too private; we aren't pissing off fatties being here."
trinque: I hate Yellen far more than any hamplanet
mircea_popescu: they just mean to help
ascii_field: in terms of sheer perversity
ascii_field: yet what they do is not unlike what mengele did
ascii_field: and how those folks never seem to get 'press'
ascii_field: mocsny wrote, among many things, re: how it is not really possible to become 'galactically' fat without a host of 'unsung heroes' - enablers who feed you, wipe arse, etc
BingoBoingo: Hating on the merely overweight is kind of a non-starter for me, but here in 'Murica there is no shortage of clearly celestial bodies to hate on.
BingoBoingo: There's a whole vocabluary. Mini moons are fat kids, hamplanets are big and round. ham galaxies are the ones so big they flatten out on surfaces... Beetus monsters are covered in weeping wounds on their legs
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The sort of rollie pollie that needs a rag on a stick to clean itself and always is covered in an oily sheen
trinque: will revise as things improve
lobbes: go for the gusto
ascii_field: i'm happy to settle for the dream of making a -worse- world - for the enemy.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski and ben_vulpes are pretty cool though so I feel bad if I hate jooz nao. Hating on smelly butter golems though is fine.
mircea_popescu: i thought that's the libertard fallacy.
mircea_popescu: what, dja think those people imagine they're making a better world ?
lobbes: just don't delude yourself that it is towards a purpose
lobbes: ah, is this the cause/purpose thing again?
mircea_popescu: how's this different from "imagine being so empty of purpose that you put actual energy into dirtying paper"
nubbins`: imagine being so empty of purpose that you put actual energy into creating internet fat shame memes ☟︎
nubbins`: <+ascii_field> mircea_popescu: i have been to free-time-land and it was the one part of my life that was actually worth living <<< wait now, you've been getting it this whole time? :/
mircea_popescu: anywya, i'm not gonna post on 8chan seeing how i still olathe captchas, but here's my contribution to resolving the conflict & fat acceptance : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI3tGgD4nMk
mircea_popescu: why would i bother / expend effort and energy to serve her ?
shinohai: mircea_popescu should buy reddit and force her to wax floors or something
BingoBoingo: It's the corn thing.