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decimation: but the whole point of remapping control is so that you don't cripple pinky
decimation: I didn't think of that for some reason
nubbins`: packs of old ladies circling the shelter all day
decimation: asciilifeform: I'm typing on a genuine model m, it is better than the unicomp
asciilifeform: causing overwhelming urge to visit the zoo, closer and closer to lions..
asciilifeform: would be interesting if it worked on people the same way as on rat, though
nubbins`: i think the mechanism is lonely people buy cats and further withdraw
decimation: yeah I suppose that's the mechanism
asciilifeform: decimation: the toxoplasma thing ?
nubbins` throws paper away and devotes life to producing PCBs
decimation: I read a paper recently that indicated that there was a link between long-term cat ownership and crazy
nubbins`: hm, you can silkscreen etch-resist too
asciilifeform: (what else are they supposed to eat?)
asciilifeform just realized that neighbour's car is still in its place. perhaps she... died ?
asciilifeform: any geometric distortion - straight to dump
nubbins`: i should show you some of the multi-layer prints i've done
asciilifeform: i mean, off by 0.1mm - straight to dump
nubbins`: it's disastrous on a t-shirt too
asciilifeform: need something like the apparatus used to paint car fenders
asciilifeform: it is even possible to make proper soldermask (think the green glossy coat on most commercial boards) in jungle conditions, but this, i have not tried.
asciilifeform: incidentally everything that is needed for small-scale (onesies-twosies) pcb making fits in a large suitcase
asciilifeform: nubbins`: then yes
asciilifeform: (component values help the folks doing the assembly, and has logo of maker, etc.)
nubbins`: mesh is coated with photosensitive emulsion, exposed on light table w/ positive image masked
asciilifeform: nubbins`: the silkscreen on pcb is largely optional
nubbins`: asciilifeform in fact, prepping a screen for printing is very similar to b&w photography.
mircea_popescu: i think there's a difference between those two is-es
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how do i know that not a dog
asciilifeform: nubbins`: silkscreen aside, think more 'b&w photography' than printing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how do you know she's not silks type ?
asciilifeform: if i lived alone, would probably have treadplate put in. as such, wooden floor. only difference in decor accounted for by pet. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: nubbins` by print pcbs do you mean draw on them, ordo you mean etch them ?
mircea_popescu: something like out of the buttefield 8 interiors.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pet is not the 'silks' type
nubbins`: asciilifeform i think solvent inks and a few chems are about all i'd need
mircea_popescu: a happy medium between the hosts.
mircea_popescu hopes to visit one such house before he dies, where half is all tussled in silks and the other half is roughtly what i imagine alf already built.
nubbins` suspects "more ventilation" is high on the list
nubbins`: i wonder what specific changes i'd need to make to print PCBs here
mircea_popescu: time to get satin trims alf.
asciilifeform: esp. after they find the pcb etchants etc
nubbins`: too true
nubbins`: asciilifeform and they won't even wear spacesuits
asciilifeform: crew will probably not distinguish mountain of circuit boards from the poor old woman's plastic bottles
mircea_popescu: i thought iut was "newspaper ; plastic bottle ; other"
nubbins`: things get tangly exponentially fast with the cat ones
asciilifeform: pet: 'realize that if we died tonight, the entire contents of this room will be carried out in just the same kind of black bags as are stacked over there'
asciilifeform: i remarked to the pet: 'my well-informed colleagues explained to me that science knows of three species of hoarders: 'clean,' 'dirty', and 'cat' '
asciilifeform: nubbins`: the interesting thing is,
asciilifeform: (these are still shoveling. they just brought out a very ornate lamp, covered in grime)
nubbins`: in 4 years of living at this address
asciilifeform: wonder if the knocked next door, and got the fella in the gas mask
asciilifeform: but perhaps i'm just thick
asciilifeform: well, the invocation of stretching gurlz etc. certainly suggested interaction of the flesh-to-flesh kind
mircea_popescu: i will cloink you all in the head with a taleb hammer
mircea_popescu: this is my objection throughout this conversation : he was cutting the definiton to its first surface, like the people in your magic show. and now you wish to cut interaction to the first branch.
asciilifeform: if indirectly, as 'horseman' of popescucalypse - then surely.
mircea_popescu: i don't have to be encountered directly.
mircea_popescu: or will they ?
asciilifeform: just observing that 'homo welfaricus', male and female, will live and die without encountering mircea_popescu, by approximately same reason as elevator - grizzly.
mircea_popescu: well then.
mircea_popescu: this idea that homo artifex and somehow things that are are the result of deliberate reason etc...
mircea_popescu: natural processes contain their ends.
mircea_popescu: does not mean her cunt is not evolving with deliberate decisiveness towards accomodating it.
mircea_popescu: the fact that pubescent girl has not considered the possibility of cock
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ever notice how office elevators are not specced to hold grizzly bears ?
mircea_popescu: aww, and i didn't even get to inquire if the woman that said "because we are also the only ones who give birth to men." was on welfare or not.
mircea_popescu: the rich nabob states exist to please.
mircea_popescu: as you can see, the entire definition rests on what ~i~ prefer,
mircea_popescu: if i like the busy look of woman in b, then b just scored. a is a pos nao shame on it for its moral bending ways.
mircea_popescu: i visit. if it's the case that i like the rested look of the woman in a, then state a just scored. no longer welfare.
mircea_popescu: state a keeps her "on welfare". state b makes her work in the grocery store.
mircea_popescu: take the mental experiment of, two states which each consist of one woman.
nubbins`: what if this discussion devolved to absurdity?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: what if it gives you money through six intermediaries, and instead of 'not doing anything' you have to put on a robe and chant rain prayer every day ?
mircea_popescu: what is this "not doing anything", and whence it became possible to not do anything.
nubbins`: so are most of the people on irc.
nubbins`: my definition is "gov gives you money for not doing anything, and this is your sole source of income"
mircea_popescu: they go together, these.
mircea_popescu: just as soon as people become unwilling to participate, the dole dries out AND civilisation's gone
mircea_popescu: and yes the british citizenry lived off the imperial dole. but etc.
mircea_popescu: so yes roman citizens lived off the imperial dole. but also fought in the wars.
mircea_popescu: because essentially what statehood means is this "we band together, get the bison, and then you can have some"
asciilifeform waits for mircea_popescu to write sequel, 'too dumb to build igloos'
mircea_popescu: nubbins` anyway, if your definition of social assistance is "spends govt checks" then everyone in the us is on social assistance, much like everyoner ever in any developed country throughout history, at all points.
mircea_popescu: not this dumb.
nubbins`: "smart" ones too
mircea_popescu: kinda the intension of my old "too dumb to sling dope" piece
mircea_popescu: buncha dumb blondies all over, except they're not so nice to look at anymore.
mircea_popescu: is this going to be a reductio ab coontown argument ?
asciilifeform: somewhere, long ago, one fella (lost the link, unfortunately) described the 'in tech' folks as quite like the quasi-retarded assistants in a magic show, who think that the performance is actually -about- the ropes and trap doors
nubbins`: that's why they're sitting on irc.
mircea_popescu: yes you do, but the model's broken.
mircea_popescu: why should that make a difference.
nubbins`: unless, y'know, the husband is on social assistance.
mircea_popescu: if not them, why anyone else ?
asciilifeform: recall dijkstra's observation re: how we might regard an astronomer who introduces self as 'working in telescopy' ?
mircea_popescu: are women that live somewhere in the continuum between chattel property and housewife on "some form of social assistance" ?
mircea_popescu: i think "in tech" is one of those, could either be in or out depending where you want to present yourself.
nubbins`: you're not on social assistance either, which puts you on one of the tails