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mircea_popescu: but that's as far as it goes.
davout: that's the easy part i think "anything recognized as such by asset's favorite gnupg version"
davout: the bet was misworded from the beginning, had someone intentionally created a set of shitty keys and fed the to the phuctor, it would resolve as yes
trinque: and I will, if only as an exercise in whether it's actually possible to get something fixed in glibc
trinque: I'm about as amazed with how rapidly the various "news" sites can respond to this
asciilifeform: the entire blob, notice, as per rfc2440/4880, is not in any way hashed
mircea_popescu: moreover, the way it presents the blob is as a single, shares pgp key blob
mircea_popescu: actually, a fully-explicit "how to extract your rsa moduli as numbers, and how to test things" write-up may be a good use of someone's time.
asciilifeform: much as they might like to.
davout: only action can be hard as only action can oppose resistance
asciilifeform: davout: no, i meant that it is actually not hard. as in, go and read definition for sha256
davout: asciilifeform: just because something is easy for a guy with 200 IQ doesn't mean it's as easy for two dudes with 100 IQ
asciilifeform: or just as ebuild
asciilifeform: as in, won't build at all ?
mircea_popescu: it seems tempting, tho there are sticking points. but in any case, as phuctor progresses we'll get a better idea.
asciilifeform: just as i said then
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it'll be especially puzzling because you won't immediately know why it fails, given as you debiased the bits
ben_vulpes: mats: as a new dog i must piss on each and every electric fence
mats: asciilifeform: as a new dog i must learn old tricks
ben_vulpes: i am not as malbec immune as davout thinks
mircea_popescu: and then, as that's ripped out, some tests will find the entropy not as good
asciilifeform: 'everything can be as simple as possible, but not simpler' (TM) (R)
asciilifeform: mats: jumping into the middle of an instruction is as old as time
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i wonder if this is reproducible, make sks servers display random data as people's subkeys.
jurov: i asked it to be twice as verbose
Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, it so happens that $shmuck-Q is actually not a prime as well
williamdunne: mike_c: could work just as well as an <img src="something.php"/>
davout: it would probably make sense for the phuctor to start munching SSL certs as well
mircea_popescu: this, tbh, is a good move, because : someone came up with the fucktarded idea of adding "visual" identity to keys. as if i can tell one whore from another on the basis of a 5kb icon.
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 04:11:23; mircea_popescu: (for they following at home : 4x as many bits does not mean 4x as large numbers. when computer registers went from 32 to 64 bits, maxint went from 2147483647 to 9,223,372,036,854,775,807)
davout: just publish them in chan, as they come, more log readership
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform plox put it as post on loper-os
asciilifeform: the thing that does the gruntwork is in c, uses gmp (as gpg uses)
mircea_popescu: ask anyone. such as stan.
Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, also I noticed that "Moduli waiting to test" number is updated quite regularly, why the running product displays the same number of digits for a while now, I guess it doesn't update as often ?
asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: you are correct, the formula is missing a step. but i will leave it as exercise.
asciilifeform promises to investigate this oddity, and see if there are others like it, as soon as finishes current plate
asciilifeform: which is to say, i could sign, with his key, 'please rape me in public with a donkey' and it will be as legit as anything he will ever say himself
davout: if you know that there's another broken one in the set, might as well re-check the set to find it
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i woke you up because the info necessary to resolve this bet is not public (as of yet.) hence tricky.
BingoBoingo: Boose isn't as bad as the smoking it seems atm for me, may change.
cazalla: yeah i keep meaning to as well but the booze really gets its hooks in
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Honestly having been roundly rejected by the fiat economy anything I approach is as a hobby, except for the qntra. The Qntra is deadly serious.
mircea_popescu: " You've made it to #b-a, which unlike any community I've ever encountered provides a foundation for building a sane civilization and you want to... become a boxer? It doesn't follow." << ahaha lulzy way to put it, but i dbout the guy actually aspires to this as his life. sounded more like a hobby to me
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel I like walking and that is about it as far as exercise goes. << im pretty much the same.
gabriel_laddel: it as an intellectual.
BingoBoingo: Oh, scary is context dependent. I sat through ~75% of a pharmacy school's curriculum as a grad assistant who just worked the microphones.
gabriel_laddel: I like walking and that is about it as far as exercise goes.
gabriel_laddel sees *nix hetrogeny as meaningless unless the personalized systems all have sources included, can be bundled into a usb stick or CD/DVD installer with a single procedure call
gabriel_laddel: Testing the install process has been impeded by possibly faulty hardware (my testing box reliably kernel panics as of today - idkwtf). I'm stalled until I've new boxen. If someone were willing to set aside a few hours to test the install process, please leave it in the logs. I'll follow up with you via PM.
decimation: "Getting ?rocked,? as locomotive engineers call it, is so common on the Northeast Corridor that trains long had metal grills over their windshields to act as armor. These days, thick glass is specifically designed to withstand the impact of a cinder block. Amtrak officials say trains are pelted in the neighborhoods around the crash site monthly."
williamdunne: cazalla: I wouldn't go so far as butterface, definitely not the strong point
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: same as me l0l
decimation: as I recall they were dc-coupled potentiometers
asciilifeform: now, if you have a -very- well-behaved os, you could sample it as rs232 anyway. but then you discover (see old mircea_popescu article where we stepped on this caltrop!) that you end up losing bytes that match 'control' section of ascii table
asciilifeform: (if it did, it would be perfectly usable as rs232)
mircea_popescu: http://v8chan.com/thread/3744246/what-is-this-ad.html << "As much I don't want to bring in /pol/ into every discussion, /leftypol/ is a hundred times worse. You're fucking cancer." / "its fags like you who make these threads the worst" / "No, it's fags like you who get triggered if anything remotely /pol/-like is mentioned, and I don't even like /pol/. Get the fuck out." / "You’re mentally disabled if you don’t thi
mircea_popescu: meanwhile on /pol/, https://8ch.net/pol/res/2049610.html "Who is this fucktard and why do I have to see his retarded quotes as ads on every board?"
asciilifeform: ogy had not advanced as quickly as it did in the first half of the 1960s, the Compactron idea might have been developed further, with even more tubes in a single envelope...'
asciilifeform: 'What GE did was combine multiple common tube types into "fat" tubes—as many as four in a single glass envelope, all heated from the same filament. The idea was to reduce the amount of power required to heat the tubes and the space they required on the circuit board, as well as the associated costs of multiple sockets. In a very crude way, GE was applying the concept of integrated circuits to tubes, and if solid-state technl
asciilifeform: aha, as on early fpga.
asciilifeform: ecl miners probably live on the same planet as gallium arsenide, etc. miners.
assbot: Logged on 16-05-2015 18:54:57; mod6: <+danielpbarron> the node to which i'm referring runs 0.7.2 though, so might not be the same issue << as ascii said, this is apples to oranges, but I'm curious anyway; where abouts are you at in the sync process on this particular device? (what block height range? 250`000 - 290`000) ?
mod6: it should be /fairly/ accurate as there isn't anything else running on this box. just the usual: sshd/syslog/screen/cron ..
mod6: yup, will do. the charts are actully posted from the first test already (http://thebitcoin.foundation/OrphanageThermonukeCharts/), I'll certainly post the results/charts from the v0.5.3.1-RELEASE when it's complete as well.
mod6: Now, currently, I'm running a very similar test with v0.5.3.1-RELEASE (as a baseline) without your OrphanageThermonuke patch included... it did oomkill once, yesterday.
asciilifeform: which, as i understand - did not crash ?
mod6: <+danielpbarron> the node to which i'm referring runs 0.7.2 though, so might not be the same issue << as ascii said, this is apples to oranges, but I'm curious anyway; where abouts are you at in the sync process on this particular device? (what block height range? 250`000 - 290`000) ? ☟︎
mod6: now, it'll be interesting to see the numbers i.e. network usage (among other utilization metrics) between full sync of v0.5.3.1-RELEASE+{Orphanage_Thermonuke} & v0.5.3.1-RELEASE (currently running -- which also, as i was saying lastnight, already oom killed once)
jurov: i know. i like to fill the image as close to the border as possible
wiz: it occured to me that once underground markets master the art of operatings as "unregistered corporations", they will be at a huge competitive advantage to state-registered corporations
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: please post any data you may have collected at the moment of the oomkill << so just to reiterate here, the current perf test I'm running is with the v0.5.3.1-RELEASE which oomkill'd (as it's known to do). I'll post the nmon charts, log, and vmstat log. no core file was created. However, as a reminder, the previous perf test that I ran with v0.5.3.1-RELEASE+{asciilifeform_orphanage_thermonuke.patch}(http://thebitcoin.foun
decimation: I ran slackware on it for a little while, kernel 1.2 as I recall
decimation: as I recall it was an epson apex http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102633612
decimation: I remember thinking as a kid 'why would you not always have the turbo button activated?'
cazalla: reads as the standard announcement they've been making for years now
cazalla: too late as i've already potted it up, but at least i learned about this plant breeders rights rubbish.. guess i'll have some cutting warez in a few years time
mod6: Speaking of Blazing Saddles... that movie is so damn funny. I must have watched it 20x as a kid. But what's interesting was recently I heard/read about these "Animal Trials" in Europe during the middle-ages. Makes me think of that part where they're hanging that guy AND his horse. lol
mod6: After this one is done, I was going to run a vanilla v0.5.3 to get a baseline from that as well. And I will do that, but did remember that it /does/ at least require the db patch to achieve full sync.
asciilifeform: peine forte et dure - was not an execution, as such
mod6: just as a pre-lizard-hitler fabrication that still works kinda thing?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> shipping, apparently, kills even it. << As time goes on this issue will continue to become problematic as boards become more brittle
asciilifeform: (though i'd really enjoy hearing some rationale as to why they did this)
mod6: <+jurov> mod6 ben_vulpes asciilifeform why don't we throw out the mailing list and move to 8chan? <+asciilifeform> jurov: move to 8chan? << share the lsd ? << as much as the turdolator has been a pain for jurov, I've kinda grown fond of it. however, I'm open to discuss it a bit if we can figure out a scheme inwhich it would work. mainly, ive just never been very into bbs.
trinque: as it stands my email program has to have logic about 'what if I didn't open an e-mail'
williamdunne: Well as said, once my pay comes in tomorrow I'll stick scoop up on a server
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, a year later he actually is pretty well dead, as far as these things go.
mircea_popescu: i don't think "the industree" of internet advertising was humiliated nearly as badly b4
jurov: alternatively, the clearsigned text can be easily saved as attachment
trinque: I'll bet what it's actually barfing on is that <pre> on the same line as the beginning of the message
jurov: i'm looking forward to eulora dividend fuckups, cuz number of shares will actually change as warrants are placed
mircea_popescu: "The nude self gesture takes place in complete darkness, and everyone is nude, with only one candle or very small source of light for each individual performance. Each student can select where everyone will be during the performance and where the performance will take in the performance studio -- just as they are able to do for all the performances they do.
ascii_field: the meat is then harvested as per ru.
mircea_popescu: bout as stable as gasolin
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 00:10:01; mircea_popescu: just like having a car doesn't alow having gasoline. it's true that often people who have cars also independently have gasoline, but the two are fundamentally unrelated, and there is such a thing as the fool's breakdown, ie, car's outta gas on the side of hte road.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Ah, I assumed its new as just saw on twitter for the first time
williamdunne: >If you've just had a baby, try to refrain from referring to the event as a "new product launch".
mircea_popescu: as a poor chitlin in romania, i was stuck on a monitor that was losing yellow for months
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1132928 << and not remotely close to all the fat has been trimmed, even. within your lifetime, a house (even miniature house) occupied by just one family will become unspeakable luxury, as the sovietization continues ☝︎
asciilifeform: idiot newspapers billed it as 'electron'