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asciilifeform: incidentally i dun agree w/ mp's verdict that tbf is somehow broken (aside from 1 of the 2 chairs having gone awol.) charter reads, clearly, 'This charter establishes the existence of a virtual organization whose mission is to maintain the Bitcoin reference implementation.' this was carried out .
mod6: If/when I get a chance to discuss tbf with him, I'll see what he has to say. But my guess is he'd probably just like us to replace him as needed.
mod6: He asked us to leave him dead, so I've been respecting that. Until like 3 minutes ago. I just tried to poke him re: trinque.
asciilifeform: mod6: i expect he'll come back from sea or wherever he is before week is out, seems to do so regularly nowadays.
mod6: asciilifeform: will do. i think when '1,2,3' (above) are done, we can re-visit and see what makes sense.
asciilifeform: dc was bought out (presumably 'to make netflix cache' tho i dun specifically know its fate) and all subscribers hung to dry.
mod6: ah, i see.
asciilifeform: (3) i.e. irons
mod6: i'd say that's the correct approach.
asciilifeform: mod6: mp has been providing a++ guru meditation. i expect will say moar.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'd rather not put those on a heathen hoster, but let's ask the affected folx 1st.
asciilifeform: mod6: currently i'm thinking, we do not need 'liquidator' a la bbet. we, ourselves, can properly play the orchestra as the ship goes down.
asciilifeform: if no one comes up with where, i'ma get hold of a cheap heathen thing, they're gpgballs, ought not matter where to put.
BingoBoingo: I imagine RockChip customers as well may need some files
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'd offer to host , but, lol, haven't where
asciilifeform: i agree re mod6's '1st evacuate boxen'.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I've still not had time to contemplate anywhere that might be better in the near to mid term.
asciilifeform: mod6: i dun expect that postage for boxen, or 1wk of refund, will eat anywhere close to whole piggy.
mod6: Well, so the way I see it: On the off chance that we'd win some sort of judgement, even if the courts are expedient, and I doubt that they are; We should continue on our current path. Pay what ever we need to pay back to customers out of what we have on-hand, make shipments, what have you. Then if there is cash left over, make a decision at that time.
asciilifeform: mod6: i also doubt. but imho worth to at least find what'd cost .
mod6: It may not be a bad idea to look into. I just, for what its worth, have my doubts that much comes of it.
asciilifeform: mod6: orc attourneys i suspect dun charge megabux. but imho worth to find what'd cost. perhaps even 1 would work on contingency, and then only costs to feed BingoBoingo .
mod6: However, I'm not closing the door on the whole thing. We'll have to evaluate our liabilities to our customers, cash on hand, who would be owed what, etc.
mod6: re: lawsuit, i've been following along here since the onset of this. I get the overall sense that not much may come of it, and similar to what MP was saying, would have been helpful to have some attourney long ago, as opposed to now. Especially regarding the fact that we've been getting screwed for years. A judgement might only consist of some repayment for recent month.
asciilifeform: orc market aint payin' squat for boxes, i suspect.
asciilifeform: i suppose oughta proper auction.
asciilifeform: btw if anyone doesn't want his box, i'll buy it (undisked naturally) for cost of postage.
BingoBoingo: mod6: Aite, I see it now.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-08 15:01:51 mp_en_viaje: ah yes, they do owe us some money, but i wasn't converted afaik.
mod6: <+BingoBoingo> asciilifeform mod6: I plan to return and SSH into the box. << Thanks BB!
ericbot: Logged on 2018-07-24 12:38:09 asciilifeform: oblig su joak : division commander notices that maxim gun emplacement has fallen silent. he walks over , 'comrade gunner, why is your maxim silent' gunner : 'comrade lieutenant, i've run through my belt' lieutenant : 'BUT YOUR ARE A COMMUNIST!' ... the maxim promptly begins to chatter again !
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what means 'much' ? i.e. all ?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-08 15:01:51 mp_en_viaje: ah yes, they do owe us some money, but i wasn't converted afaik.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i fully expect that when you show up to tear up the contract, they'll try to cook up some bullshit re the cage being in arrears . hence wai important to empty it.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Tonight it is too late to get the cardless girl into the building, but yes I am trying to think of something that will make the servers ergonomic enough to carry. Legionaire's kit is meant to be worn. Server meant to be densly racked. The potential to drop a chassis more than anything is what gives me pause.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Next dive I want to recover mod6's data, whatever fits in the mochila that isn't the switches or power cables. Then I plan to ask for access to the door for wheels.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: try to get the machines out. errything else after. don't break yer back tho. << Three machines in one trip with wheels went well enough 4 should not be a problem. Without wheels, I am contemplating the logistics as we speak
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform mod6: I plan to return and SSH into the box.
lobbesbot: mod6: Sent 57 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> I apologize, but I have not yet backed up your server. I will return with the disks, power it on again, and see what I can do with the credentials you passed.
BingoBoingo: When I went earlier and wheeled out the three servers, there were two receptionist girls in the glass box. When I returned on disk mission, there was no one in glass box well before normal departing time.
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell mod6 I apologize, but I have not yet backed up your server. I will return with the disks, power it on again, and see what I can do with the credentials you passed.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform and everyone else: All disks are out of the rack with the exception of the RockChip kernel SD cards. Maybe a couple of unused RK spare are hiding in the bilge box. A variety of miscellaneous was recovered as well including the KVM, a couple handfuls of USD ttyls, the unsealed FUCKGOATs that were plugged into RockChips, and for sentimental value the Qntra/DNS server I flew into the country with because it's tiny ass fit in
asciilifeform: 'lately spring broke, from cold, / like from prison, once more, / by mistake once i let out a word: / 'friend, leave a little to smoke!' / silence -- was all i heard, as he never returned from the war.'
asciilifeform: now i also wish that could give working boxes, as easily as patch...
ossabot: I am bot version 597858.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 06:06:48 mp_en_viaje: http://trinque.org/wp-content/themes/trinque/style.css << i see the problem now. your browser prolly hangs on this diana_coman ; i have ly set to just ignore
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i made same mistake the other day, was convinced i had made a broken patch
asciilifeform: hrm, paste.deedbot seems to be dead. ( was it on piz?? i didn't think it were ? )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: lemme see, 1s (pretty sure i did)
asciilifeform: diana_coman: this is tru, when i was 7yo also 'had time to think for 100d' but what resulted in was of course not worth to print anywhere ('a good bear but not a good dancer', who wants a 7yo's home-baked diode? )
asciilifeform: which is why when i encounter a fella like shinohai, who has 100% of his time, it boggles my mind that he hasn't built a thermonuclear dirigible simply as a side effect of basic fucking metabolism
lobbes: asciilifeform: interesting re: kuklachev (I had never heard of him). And I see what you mean, though even when found what a certain cat is willing to do, still must train that cat. I do enjoy what I do/have done here so far, just... I still have much to learn
asciilifeform: lobbes: re dc and floors, this is i suspect typical .
asciilifeform: lobbes: i suspect that you will find certain things very simple, that asciilifeform has not strength to even attempt of yet.
lobbes: asciilifeform: I guess that was my point; what is simple for you ain't so simple for me
lobbes: asciilifeform: I dunno, you got that logotron out at breakneck speedz ( I know you recycled phuctor's www chunks, but still )
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 17:11:48 lobbes: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942586 << I anticipated this response, but not sure how you figure utterly insane. I'm not asciilifeform nor diana_coman for e.g.; I'm still pretty "green" at programming and need to research each design phase and thoroughly test my implementations as I go to make sure it is correct. Oftentimes discover "shit, I fucked up, need to redo this part". I.e. learning as I go
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942688 << lobbes , i am prolly the slowest pair of hands here, mp never once misses a chance to remind of this...
diana_coman: asciilifeform: atm I don't have box ready for this (I wasn't actually prepared for pizarro death, what can I say) + I'd rather know a bit more about those to whom I'm sending boxes, dunno.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: seems like 9000x greater concern for their (indeed mirror-smooth, i nearly slipped on it) marble floor , than for working dc!!
asciilifeform: diana_coman: sorta why i dun even look at other than colo anymoar
diana_coman: so despite the lovely amd, I think I can't currently stomach its masters.
diana_coman: I suppose I'm so outside of their corporation worksheet that they just blink for 4 minutes and reset to next point on the checklist
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Was instructed to ask Latecho to add the handcart door to my card to use the hand truck again. Going for all disks, all I can carry without wheels trip.
diana_coman: but no, they called 3 dudes to talk to me and still can't get over this outlandish idea that I do.not.want.to.make.account.with.them
lobbes: Add in the feedback cycle, digging into mpwp mysql guts, new additions to spec tacked on (here I would link to various documented pieces on blog, if I had a working one) and I don't come anywhere close to 5-hours. It will be serving Trilema, and it is needed to be correct in one go; no do-overs. My reputation's on the line here. Spot of work my foot!
lobbes: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942586 << I anticipated this response, but not sure how you figure utterly insane. I'm not asciilifeform nor diana_coman for e.g.; I'm still pretty "green" at programming and need to research each design phase and thoroughly test my implementations as I go to make sure it is correct. Oftentimes discover "shit, I fucked up, need to redo this part". I.e. learning as I go
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-08 19:40:36 diana_coman: asciilifeform: I somehow think I might not be the only one valuing your seal; but anyway.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942657 << fwiw in most cases re: hardware I'd value asciilifeform's seal more than I'd value my own
diana_coman: but yes otherwise and moreover, it's no diversity if I don't go with moldavians but I go with Bucharest; 0 diversity in that really
asciilifeform: hell i'm even considering the swamp an' digging for offerings there.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-04 23:32:29 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: back in '17 when dulap-I crater was still smoking , asciilifeform wanted to try ro . but mp_en_viaje said that it was poor site, and i'm inclined to think that he had good reason to say this.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i currently do not know why mp fatwa'd ro, but must assume it was not because flag is wrong three colours
diana_coman: fwiw romanians are *still* the most responsive for some reason; and honestly, I even tried to steer away from ro.
diana_coman: I got to the point where I'm firing them emails ~ can I order that or the other *without* your "account" that I utterly don't need; and similar.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: I am slowly digesting log (because I ate too much ips-talk today really) but I'll get to that too, thank you.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: I somehow think I might not be the only one valuing your seal; but anyway.
asciilifeform: and ty diana_coman , i did not know that you esteemed the seal.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'd happily sell. but who to buy...
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Right. The ones I haven't yet taken are coming out next trip. Had to get more labeling tape
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i assume already extracted all easily-removable disks ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: For the next three extractions I am leaning towards taking mod6/BTF, trinque, and the shared leaving Qntra/DNS, Rockchip plant, S.NSA vacant, switch, and the bilge box to be extracted
asciilifeform: i recall
BingoBoingo stretching a bit before I roll again. Tweaked hip a bit unloading cart
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 15:59:48 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942530 << i don't see a problem with it, provided it doesn't become a complicated game of not enough coin etc.
asciilifeform: ftr i did ~not~ like that kvm tho, needed toilet computer to operate (java shitware client) but exhaustive market survey yielded ~only~ that
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: fwiw the 1 i purchased for piz, didn't even occupy a rack slot, it was ultracompact matchbox-cum-wires thing
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 13:39:05 asciilifeform: in piz, we solved this by having kvm device in the rack. apparently heathens no longer keep these around, near as i can tell.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942537 << i suppose this'll take moar thinking huh
asciilifeform: i dunno who these people think they are, to ask for half the cost of a whole flat, for 1u. but so far these.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i'ma then investigate .
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942530 << i don't see a problem with it, provided it doesn't become a complicated game of not enough coin etc.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-08 13:28:26 asciilifeform: i would not propose to attempt 'isp' in the heart of mordor, but possibly could house a box or two that way.
mp_en_viaje: but, whatevs, what can i do.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-07 21:34:35 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941357 << i meant the whole thing, when you're ready to make delivery and i hafta have a server ready for you to do this on.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-07 21:24:16 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941645 << at my current rate of developing the thing, I will give a tentative estimate of Jan 1st 2020 as delivery date of whole enchilada. I will update this deadline quickly if I see it threatening to be pushed
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: These per the narrative I was given were passed by dedicado suggesting we are several layers deep in unsustainable sysco weird.
asciilifeform: seems like (supposing it even makes sense to discuss the output of muppets as if it were a measurement) represents the intake ~after~ it has gone through latech. i.e. the 'they blocked us upstream' story of theirs dun check out.
asciilifeform: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-08#1942333 << ftr i found it impossible to determine ~anyffin from the given photos.
asciilifeform: i rec cab for movement of these.