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diana_coman: asciilifeform: thanks, I'll have
a look; fwiw so far bvt's fix actually worked well for ossabot
mp_en_viaje: so did you folk get
a banhammer smack or something ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: This terminal is on
a radiomodem atm
diana_coman had to follow quite
a few things at the same time during this last hr so didn't focus on pizarro specifically.
BingoBoingo: It seems to depend on how big the incoming crapflood is and how far upstream they have to go to find
a sufficiently wide pipe to cut off the crapflood.
ossabot: (pizarro) 2019-10-04 thimbronion: fwiw my bouncer (running on non-pizarro box) was disconnected yesterday, and
a few days prior, and although I have
a cloak, it does not get applied before bouncer rejoins channels.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It does appear the SSLism for cloaks is still optional, but
a delay needs to be inserted between authentication and joining channels
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: are you saying that "have
a cloak -> no problem" or what exactly?
BingoBoingo: I suspect what happened is
a long stretch of relatively calm weather got
a lot of people complacent on the matter of IRC cloaks.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I am presently connected through not
a bouncer
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I don't see
a simpler narrative for why diana_coman's bot went down too.
diana_coman: after
a while it got back though, currently responding
diana_coman: asciilifeform: there was
a bit earlier some weird stuff, couldn't connect to smg servers + eulora client fell down for lack of response from server
BingoBoingo: I suspect someone may be crapflooding IPs displayed in join/part messages on one of the channels. This can be
a problem because cloak discipline appears to have gone soft.
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: yes, my bot is not cloaked; dunno if that would make much of
a diff tbh
BingoBoingo: Looking at the connection messages on chan lobbes seems to be using
a cloak, but dianacoman's bot appears to not be
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Putting
a GPG gram together
diana_coman: asciilifeform: ossabot fell down for
a bit too and machine was reset so I need to find out from isp wtf; grrr.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 22:28:19 asciilifeform: i find it mighty 'coincidence'(tm) that for year+ we get 24/7 pipe, and then put
a logger and nao dulap-I treatment.
spyked: also, while doing this importing work I've gathered
a (still ongoing) list of broken links that might make for
a lulzy blogpost
spyked: not sending internal trackbacks tho, prolly because still using old link schema. anyway, lotsa work left still, meanwhile articles will continue pouring there for
a while.
mp_en_viaje: but, on the upside, all my outbound's spread over
a spectrum for keks an' giggles.
mp_en_viaje: anyways, i'll be around for
a while, giving the whores
a day off before they start dying of exhaustion under me.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-04 00:17:05 asciilifeform: meanwhile in the analogue room -- asciilifeform already found
a logical boojum in
sync demo -- will not fetch tails for chans where nuffin was proposed to drop. ( easy to fix, but i've not enuff wake-hours atm to do it just nao )
mp_en_viaje: bullshit started
a few months ago, when sporadically reported, and it'll prolly continue until l3 or whoever operates the sick interchange point gets their shit in order.
mp_en_viaje: cuz she's austrian, see, an' about as awkward in english as you'd like, she's perhaps last week had the flu, maybe. this comes out as "she has
a virus".
mp_en_viaje: after which she agrees, if sluts want drinks they gotta get them from her (being as she's the waitress, makes sense) but she ominously warns us that... well... she has
a virus.
mp_en_viaje: which reminds me, as it happens, of last night. so i order
a pile of vodka shots, and this nice tits chinese looking but not chinese girl wants one, so i'm like... well, you gotta kiss the waitress. who's as surprised as anyone by the sidden turn of events, "you know, i've been working here for years, i've never seen anything likethis" "yeah, that's what girls usually say to me". then she went around asking randomly, "hey,
a mp_en_viaje: but srsly now... can maybe consider giving people
A DAY if you ask for comments ?
mp_en_viaje:
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939899 << lol apparently i managed to miss out
a lot while taking less than
a day to do slutty things with sluts -- i last spoke 11h and apparently was supposed to give above proposal significantly before 21h. how the fuck am i to do this is anyone's guess ; the consolation prize's that all the sluts in the joint crowded my table / gifted me bras / shoved tits in my face wh
mp_en_viaje: if you don't know whether your lamp is broken because the power plug's dead, the cable inside is fucked, or the lightbulb dead, you don't first built
a spaceship out of that lamp and "see then". you replace the lightbulb first, see if it fixes it. then from there, ONE THING AT
A TIME.
mp_en_viaje: omfg act to reduce unknowns. RATIONAL BEHAVIOUR it is called. the fucking reason you, as
a serious engineer, try things ~one at
a time~ rather than in random configurations is that you're trying to reduce unknowns. not to nurse old unknowns into survival and perhaps even invent new ones ?!
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 20:24:25 lobbes: still ain't
a mp-endorsed castle either. I figure that time may come one day, but that time isn't now as far as I can tell.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 18:57:52 asciilifeform: lobbes: if you want to emphasize that it's
a mp-endorsed castle, put the deed in the chan subjline like in #
a.
mp_en_viaje: then if later the sorting mechanism sorts them otherwise, meatviewer will show
a diff Q-selection, while all the while mechanical viewer sees the same N
mp_en_viaje: and yet another final thing : having fixwidth block display elements affords you
a very good solution to the exact problem you're dealing with : how to put N elements in space for Q elements. what you do is, declare the fixwidth block element with the display widh you wand and with content of the N element ~sorted somehow~. then on display block element will only show the first Q, leaving the rest offscreen ~but still on the
mp_en_viaje: ived from something it very much is not making identification
a lot more doubtful than they need to be, it's like nominalist sabotage ; 2. you specify
a fixwidth, in FUCKING EMS. wtf, ems are for glyphs, it's like giving your height in delta-pascals.
mp_en_viaje: but then again there's
a reason they came up with an euphemistic name for their idiocy in the first place. leftards claiming capitalism doesn't work is like oligophrens "preferring to be called" beautiful lip people, pretending speech doesn't work.
mp_en_viaje: (this multi-slot auction mechanism as described is actually
a lot smarter than maybe realised at first sight, it does exactly what leftards claim capitalism can not do.)
mp_en_viaje: alternatively, charge
a fee for listing, by adding
a small "be here" link, leading to
a page, explaining that everyone there is there by ahving paid, and if you pay more than the one who paid least you get the top spot for as long as that lasts.
mp_en_viaje:
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939856 << you will notice that the whole echafaudage is specifically design to keep the world-elements at
a low roar. if everything ran hot 24/7 i'd be seen in corner sharpening axe for imminent beheadings of misbehaving lords that failed to produce castles or w/e it is they failed to do -- in any case the situation's failure.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 16:08:48 asciilifeform: so, to complete the picture, this algo is guaranteed to work correctly if
a) one of the peers actually contains the complete log segment for time T .. present b) no one speaks in the interval while it operates c) the timestamp T correctly represents the cutoff
mp_en_viaje is not necessarily convinced that this is important or necessarily
a goal ; but seens nothing wrong whatsoever with the attempt as such and has no objection to helping.
mp_en_viaje: imo is better because at least creates ~
a record~ of the type of problems we're solving which not only might spark refinements downstream, but will also constiute
a phenomenologically blessed test set for any such refinements, permitting ~RATIONAL~ acception or rejection if/when it comes to.
mp_en_viaje: in this manner all-1 operator response will result in the behaviour you specced ; and anything else will result in finer control (at the obvious added cost of bothering to paste
a buncha 1's in
a paste).
mp_en_viaje: then once this is done syncer spits out paste consisting of aggregate L in response to command given in 1, and accepts as response
a succession of bits (0, 1) telling it which to take where.
mp_en_viaje:
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939815 << how's this for
a proposedly "better" algo : 1. syncer is given target T ; 2 sincer loads tip of T (as the whole day page, DP), compares to its own record ; 3. if comparison results in any difference, syncer produces list L in the format of #count, own line, T line and moves to 4. which consists of repeating algo for DP-1.
diana_coman: meanwhile an
initial look at irc networks suggests they might be ~all about as lively as
a corpse really; but anyways, oftc, undernet, espernet and dalnet seem to have made it to the top to be contacted in the coming days.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 12:46:59 asciilifeform:
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-03#1939710 << funnily enuff, the crypto-christians left behind in jp after missionaries expelled, mutated into such
a bizarre fork chain that modern church does not recognize'em as anyffin at all ( they mutter unrecognizable chants , which at some pt in 17th c were latin , from phonetic crib sheets to this day... but elsewise resemble 'insular buddhist sect' very cl
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 12:33:01 asciilifeform: asks again, 'boy...' finally boy takes off helmet and utters : 'sir, i fess up, i dun know these things, cuz i aint
a REAL WELDER!!!'
mp_en_viaje: not even
a matter of "want the job". we've nobody even remotely capable of running such
a thing, thereby the job is "accrete more people, especially non-male, non-engineer, non-maleengineer-retarded types"
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 12:18:34 asciilifeform: !Qlater tell trinque do you think you can get ben to reappear for long enuff to properly appoint tbf successor ? cuz imho
a heavy bag o'coin attached to
a beheaded tbf is unseemly and the orig charter offers no gc mechanism for it
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 21:21:37 asciilifeform: trinque, diana_coman , et al :
draft!!! of semi-auto sync mechanism. is only ~demo~, it cannot write to
a db, only proposes changes.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 21:21:59 lobbesbot: trinque: Sent 8 hours and 47 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> do you think you can get ben to reappear for long enuff to properly appoint tbf successor ? cuz imho
a heavy bag o'coin attached to
a beheaded tbf is unseemly and the orig charter offers no gc mechanism for it
trinque: sorry for the gagged deedbot meanwhile; that outage caught me in the middle of
a multi-channel experiment
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-03 16:06:25 asciilifeform: diana_coman: aite. proposed algo , is
a manually-triggered item that 1) takes
a 'breakage point', i.e. last known correctly logged line represented by tuple [chan, index] . 2) finds its timestamp 3) drops errything in db postdating said timestamp 4) walks list of peer loggers, fetches for each enabled chan, errything from last-known-idx i to i+500 5) 4 is repeated until returns <500 6) then takes the ~longest~ s
lobbesbot: trinque: Sent 8 hours and 47 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> do you think you can get ben to reappear for long enuff to properly appoint tbf successor ? cuz imho
a heavy bag o'coin attached to
a beheaded tbf is unseemly and the orig charter offers no gc mechanism for it
lobbes: still ain't
a mp-endorsed castle either. I figure that time may come one day, but that time isn't now as far as I can tell.
lobbes: asciilifeform: yea, I think I'ma gonna register
a new channel with fleanode (#lobbes). As such, no need for archive import (there wasn't much in the old one either save for testing of various things). I'll let you know once it is live