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mircea_popescu: the thing the "community" prefers to ignore is that its continued existence is fully predicated on it being made 80% of people who are not older than six months and don't intend to be.
pete_dushenski: looks like they're down to only 3% of hashrate
pete_dushenski: well good riddance to another scab.
mircea_popescu: yes, them.
pete_dushenski: aha them.
pete_dushenski: musta missed that
pete_dushenski: btc guild listened to gavin ?
mircea_popescu: that shit was top 2 not even A YEAR AGO.
mircea_popescu: anyone ~else~ inclined to listen to gavin, take notice
pete_dushenski: ^mining pool takes itself down because of 'bitlisence'
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mircea_popescu: which is, incidentally, why any discussion with the devil may only logically start with a full and unwavering declaration from the devil that it is talking to ~the incorruptible~. ie, outside of its jurisdiction, they whose "corruptness" may not be judged by it.
mircea_popescu: obama also "might" be corrupt. nixon "actually was" corrupt. the difference between these is left as an exercise, but not to the reader of history. it's strictly an exercise to the writer of history.
mircea_popescu: so in this sense "cuomo might be corrupt". they... they just haven't figured it out yet lolz.
mircea_popescu: ie, exactly as you point out, "the devil is not interested in lies, but in liars". so it is. with the caveat that it is not interested in THE TRUTH of anyone's being a liar, but in the useful political lie of anyone having been a liar.
mircea_popescu: , the guy's action to disclose was "reasonable", and your approach only works if you're there as an envoy of the most serene republic or the republic of china, and they are actually afraid that if they misbehave their children are going to be used as ingredients in someone's supper.
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 01:38:53; assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 21:22:20; asciilifeform: speaking of 'sf-86' form, does anyone else consider such things a peculiar anachronism? it isn't as if usg did not already have 100% of everything in that thing in some db or other
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164751 << i think you broadly miss the point there. it doesn't matter what it ACTUALLY asks. what matters is that once you sign and serve it, they will pretend it had asked whatever it is they wish it were the case it had asked at any later point, which is how "it doesn't ask about fucktoys" turned into "paetreus broke the law by visiting a local socialite!11". so in this ☝︎☟︎
jurov: https://blockchain.info/address/1CoinBr662GWdiqVz8mXJUnYjWZbBchKAb lol the "public note" (and no, CoinBr will not double your coins) ☟︎
jurov: gribs forgot how to convert
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ben_vulpes: everyone goes home politely but the vagrants
ben_vulpes: nah, lights on the tennis court turn out at ten
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell shinohai what platform did you end up compiling bitcoind on?
ben_vulpes: https://github.com/openssl/openssl/issues/57 << the bitrot continues
asciilifeform: decimation: the overall pattern is that they piss to drown, rather than nurture
decimation: just because they have in-house talent wouldn't exclude the possibility of pissing money away on other shit too
decimation: well, the job of usg is to spend money
asciilifeform: (whatever talent they use in-house, they grow there, from larva.)
asciilifeform: i don't presently believe that nsa hired cryptographers for any purpose other than to take them out of circulation.
decimation: "we thought our museum-fremen ways would impress you"
decimation: ironically, if the NSA heckler is correct about the real-world pressure, such jingoism would be a disqualifier
asciilifeform: if only only this.
decimation: "Apparently the availability of money from NSA had had a corrupting effect on some mathemati- cians, who started to think in nationalistic and jingoistic terms so that they could write their proposal in a way that they thought would appeal to NSA."
asciilifeform: picture if the usg cocksuckers were discovered and removed.
decimation: instead of trying to model and criticize anything resembling real-world crypto
asciilifeform: it would be interesting to witness a post-purse cryptographic academia community
decimation: in one of his papers koblitz complains that the only thing 'cryptographers' care about is finding nifty new one-way functions
asciilifeform: all you gotta do is be the right usg catamite.
asciilifeform: in the 'real world', 'your cryptography fails' sometimes leads to fat bribes in the form of business-as-usual from usg masters.
decimation: beware the academics baring 'ideas'
decimation: "Once I heard a speaker from NSA complain about university researchers who are cavalier about proposing untested cryptosystems. He pointed out that in the real world if your cryptography fails, you lose a million dollars or your secret agent gets killed. In academia, if you write about a cryptosystem and then a few months later find a way to break it, you've got two new papers to add to your résumé!"
decimation: aye, I think so too
decimation: it's a good paper about the pointlessness of provability in crypto
decimation: duh, first rule of marketing club is don't talk about marketing club
asciilifeform: and no one seems to know precisely how/why
decimation: it's hard for me to begrudge a man that
decimation: my point being, he picked his tools, stuck with them
Adlai: so? i'll copypaste the navyseals copypasta, doesn't mean i know how to triforce
decimation: as ascii said, they probably use winblows because that's what they sell at the computer store
Adlai: his using msvc was just like writing the note with your non-dominant hand
decimation: actually, what it says to me is that the alternatives are dead
mod6: staggers the imagination ☟︎
Adlai: "a king has his reign and then he dies"
decimation: maybe next week he will be complaining about the damn mailman
decimation: seems to me that he's going senile ☟︎
decimation: schneier lulz: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2015/06/encrypting_wind.html < "Encrypting your Windows hard drives is trivially easy; choosing which program to use is annoyingly difficult. I still use Windows -- yes, I know, don't even start -- and have intimate experience with this issue."
Adlai: 'jew things' is such a game of broken telephone, it's amazing how people survived without deedbots
Adlai: and this was a few years back. haven't seen many of those 'parties' since then, either ☟︎
Adlai: fwiw ben_vulpes i distinctly remember him saying "wifi", although it could be that different manufacturers use different technologies
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164780 << would be interesting to broadcast custom message to these folks. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 03:18:14; Adlai: isn't the primary purpose of a jew the production of more jews?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164775 << and that's another thing from the long list of 'jew things' that i have no truck with ☝︎
Adlai: he has since moved up in life, last i heard he cancelled a return ticket from the west coast to stick around and carve surfeboards
ben_vulpes: i think these are straight up radio
ben_vulpes: this was less eerie two nights ago at 1 in the morning.
ben_vulpes: in time
ben_vulpes: many many people with headphones dancing to music only they can hear
ben_vulpes: there is a "silent dance party" occuring at the park down the street
Adlai: isn't the primary purpose of a jew the production of more jews? ☟︎
asciilifeform: (which is to say, one who is good for more or less entirely that)
assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 02:24:53; ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> that sounds pretty jewish << he's probably the most jewish jew in here - endlessly pessimistic about everything, everything costs $maxint, gurls are unreadable, and practically a talmudic scholar to boot
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164762 << i've been known to introduce myself as a 'gassing jew' ☝︎
ben_vulpes: dpb's a clit tickler! ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 19:45:47; trinque: what's a mouse
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164552 << i rarely if ever use a mouse. I'm a big fan of the rubber nub in the center of the keyboard, even if it is the reason my 'b' key fell off and later stopped working ☝︎
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> that sounds pretty jewish << he's probably the most jewish jew in here - endlessly pessimistic about everything, everything costs $maxint, gurls are unreadable, and practically a talmudic scholar to boot ☟︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> when an otherwise smart guy is too stupid to get out of the rain. << or insists, operating under a complete lack of evidence that "it can't possibly keep going on like this much longer!" ☟︎
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> how is "working undercover" what you do when you << couldn't possibly be real. lulzy satire of the state of the state tho
assbot: Logged on 27-08-2014 04:10:26; asciilifeform: notably absent from menu is 'retain army of thugs who know that spheres are interestingly secret'
assbot: Logged on 27-08-2014 04:09:34; asciilifeform: if you (org.) want to keep secrets, the menu is roughly: a) employ incorruptible fanatics b) keep all henchmen incommunicado, in 'шарашка' prisons c) there is no 'c.' tertium non datur.
decimation: apparently like it is also geared to catch dumb terrorists
decimation: it seems that most of the 'security apparatus' of usg is geared toward catching dumb or incompetent spies
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 21:22:20; asciilifeform: speaking of 'sf-86' form, does anyone else consider such things a peculiar anachronism? it isn't as if usg did not already have 100% of everything in that thing in some db or other ☟︎
decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164722 < it's a good question. in fact, a careful reading of the form is interesting not for the stupid questions it asks but the large gaps it doesn't ask about ☝︎
mircea_popescu: must be in backwards world, this magical place where "official replies" go to reddit and tardstalk.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo of course, the truly ridiculous thing in that inept flailing of two different groups of idiots with 100 BTC in the middle is the proposition that btc-e stealing user funds is "what any legitimate busines would have done".
asciilifeform: (if 'nsa filed your tax,' who would ever pay fines ?)
asciilifeform: ditto the tax collectors
asciilifeform: (btw the answer, at least partially, for 'why they don't consult the files' is that what the inquisitors are mainly interested in is ~liars~ rather than the facts)
asciilifeform: (literally! read the thing)
asciilifeform: what remains after these are subtracted is some very wooden 'list the terrorist orgs you have been a member in, and why' verbiage
trinque: ~or~ why doesn't the NSA file my taxes?
asciilifeform: speaking of 'sf-86' form, does anyone else consider such things a peculiar anachronism? it isn't as if usg did not already have 100% of everything in that thing in some db or other ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164712 << know that almost all folks paid by usg fill out no forms like these. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 15:26:58; pete_dushenski: "Management “wanted a creative building MMO [massively multiplayer online-game] with a promise of zero penises seen,” tweeted Megan Fox, a developer who worked on the project,"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164376 << isn't megan fox that porn cyborg woman ? ☝︎☟︎