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asciilifeform: (and when magical fairy dust is sprinkled on planet so the 1000/minute cleaners do not move prices of anything at all)
mircea_popescu: and i mean, tits and all.
mircea_popescu: but you'll have to get in shape, alf.
mircea_popescu: where's that cleaning toilets pic i had...
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: wake me up when cleaning toilet pays 1000/min
kakobrekla: well you can do 2% cleaning toilets and 98% whatever else
funkenstein_ is happy some of that time is spent teaching the kids in b-a
kakobrekla: for the price of your life
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: it also matters ~what~ the 98% is spent doing
mats: somehow the 'we have a terrible business plan' has yet again transmogrified into the old 'omg the chinese are counterfeiting again' narrative
funkenstein_: my sources tell me uber is for 外国人
asciilifeform knew mircea_popescu would say this ^ !
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: very easily. could, like 99.999% of the others, have this +plus+ no money
assbot: Logged on 17-06-2015 13:34:30; asciilifeform: given as presently i can't even afford to not have a day job which eats 98% of time & energy
kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1165947 dont see how this could be worse someplace else ☝︎
asciilifeform: also the gurl has valuable illiquid asset.
asciilifeform: she does get to not be fed into a woodchipper feet first, for example
funkenstein_: and there's stephenson again today :D
asciilifeform: as it is, i fully expect to envy the '16yo-ish female in kabul
asciilifeform: at any rate, if the thread were about things that are ~likely to~ happen to me, vs 'what i'd like', it'd be much shorter and even more boring.
asciilifeform: idk if i'll pay. what'll i do if the kid refuses to pull? negrate him as i swing ?
asciilifeform: (they paid on the gallows in advance)
asciilifeform: little boys would earn pennies by pulling on legs of hanging men at tyburn
asciilifeform: as pictured in the well-loved 'baroque cycle' by n. stephenson
funkenstein_: vpn is slow over there but works as you'd expect
asciilifeform: jack ketch took tips, famously!
mircea_popescu: i remember some guy paying a lot of money for that sort of thing
asciilifeform: and that's only if interlocutor is feeling charitable.
asciilifeform: the only thing i might be asked is if i'd like to be shot in the head or chest
mircea_popescu: nobody ever gave a shit. least of all the girly in discussion once she's 17.5
asciilifeform: which is why the whole thing is an acid trip
mircea_popescu: "oh in order to put up with what my mother puts up with i will want blabla"
mircea_popescu: the notion that future you asks past you anything at all is very 16yo-ish female in kabul sort of thought. it's not how it works.
asciilifeform: would have to stick to mathematics, probably. (can one even get unfiltered internet in shenzhen ?)
asciilifeform: i have lived in cities. in crappy soviet dwellings, with little room to move, even. in order to do this again voluntarily i would want something very valuable in return. such as not having to work for a living ever.
mircea_popescu: i wonder if aiming to be a spherical chicken makes one transfat ?
kakobrekla: jurov> alf now requires hard vacuum to live? < lmao
mircea_popescu: yes, the best dreams start with a twisted version of reality.
mircea_popescu: stick to one or the other.
mircea_popescu: that's the exact problem in discussion here. you're freely mixing cartoons and footage, for a very lsd-looking example.
jurov: mircea_popescu: it comes out that if you ever decide to relocate alf, will need to manage it and provide usg-level amenities
mircea_popescu: you're not liable to get anywhere by simply following your own mental narrative in circles.
mircea_popescu: forget that part.
asciilifeform: closer to home
asciilifeform: answer: i can sit in the american jail now!
asciilifeform: why not i move to beijing straight to the jail?
asciilifeform: it's back to the 'living vs existing' thread.
mircea_popescu: you know, naggum had a very unflattering piece re this approach, alf.
mircea_popescu: because if we're doing the entire "here's some random shit i came up with, do planning for it", might as well.
asciilifeform: but not without the entire orchestra
asciilifeform: jurov: i can do without hard vacuum (hard enough to get it here)
jurov: alf now requires hard vacuum to live?
mircea_popescu: oh yeah, and while at it alf, compute the cost of raising ten children off three different women, also sight unseen.
mircea_popescu: ahhh, another 2. at this rate i'll be rich!
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: while you're at it, compute the cost of a 10km^2 opaque bubble for me to live in there.
funkenstein_: also i can look for 10^-4 torr vacuum providers
asciilifeform: if i used 'uber' for commute, could easily sum to cost of a nice car every month...
asciilifeform: (wrote hate mail, they 'gave it back' as shop credit. as if i have much desire for this service now)
mats: have taken at least a hundred rides now
asciilifeform: best part - they charged me five bux to 'cance;
asciilifeform: i filled a knapsack with books and didn't feel like trudging home in the 99% humidity
mats: chinese uber is getting raped in this way
asciilifeform: so gaggle of 'dudebros' sits all in one 'cab' and rakes in the dough.
asciilifeform: i suspect that the iPnohe only checks that a chump has been 'picked up', but not delivered
asciilifeform: whereby a bunch of folks pretend to be an uber 'cabbie' and 'pick up' customers ☟︎
jurov: but insisting that there is even no quality chocolate? what do the chinese rich eat, flavored vegetable oil?
asciilifeform: mats: which is why i suspect that a new scam was invented
asciilifeform: mats: glad that you mentioned this. because i did an experiment, and forgot to speak of it. actually tried to ride 'uber.' (did it once before, at an airport, and it sorta worked.) but this time the car approached, clearly saw me, and ... kept going. inside was a gaggle of college 'bros' all holding iPnohes.
jurov: guess you got typical usuan disease. freaks out at the thought of staying outside of The Standard Environment
kakobrekla: lets try the afternoon.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: checked my mailbox this morning. no telegram from chinese emperor asking for it.
mats: i sure hope they win their appeal
kakobrekla: elephant trunk for example :)
asciilifeform: and, more to the point, why am i there at all? who asked for me there, paid ?
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asciilifeform: how many disease carriers will have to run shoulders with every day ?
asciilifeform: can i get real (read: ru or identical) chocolate there? at what cost/gram ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: where in shenzhen can i live without ~hearing smelling~ the locals?
jurov: and as for leisure, solitude, quiet, food.. you can find a fault with some of these things anywhere
asciilifeform: jurov: things with very clear ROI
jurov: they surely are doing things that need hard vacuum in shenzen. maybe even more than in wash dc
asciilifeform: how about the vacuum pump from earlier thread ?
asciilifeform: jurov: what does the leisure, solitude, quiet, and good eu-style food combo cost in shenzhen ?
asciilifeform: it's that simple.
jurov: people did relocate to shenzen and seem to be happy there without atomic dirigibles. how so?
jurov: you refuse to understand
asciilifeform: that was hard enough here in usa where i had 20+ yrs to make meatwot
asciilifeform: how about employment that doesn't make one want to blow brains out?
jurov: that when i move there, will provide some basic information how to function
asciilifeform: (and what means 'not throw under the bus' ??)
jurov: also, i don't get how anyone in this age can *not* have some foreign acquaintances that one can be sure to not throw him under the bus ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'kill the chicken to teach the monkeys' (TM) (R)
mats: folks regularly catch bullet for theft of much less than 1mn
asciilifeform: srsly i would buy a tourist ticket if i could be guaranteed a front seat
mats: yes the executions are a big plus ☟︎
asciilifeform: mats: at least they have public executions. i, for instance, am living in a tyrannical empire that doesn't even have fucking public executions to watch. picture that.
jurov: so this bitcoin thing we're having here is completely useless even in such situation?
asciilifeform: (also three light-years ahead of, e.g., my own position in chinese employment market. so don't laugh)
mats: i am not looking forward to the culture shock
asciilifeform: but might want to check with the cousins before buying ticket.