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ben_vulpes: nobody can do anything to increase the value of btc as an investment. it's here, it's queer, nobody's changing it.
isaackl: Sensible bitcoin businesses are those that increase the value of btc as an investment (not user adoption or transaction volume or anything like that
isaackl: Well, taking the thesis that the real value of bitcoin is as an inflation hedge, and that funds will increasingly flow into bitcoin as people realise this
isaackl: Yeah, I figured that as the most likely null hypothesis
assbot: Logged on 13-05-2015 21:42:17; asciilifeform: re: '21' etc >> 'The cornerstone of the strategy as presented would have been the release of consumer products that would turn power from wall sockets into bitcoin through the widespread dissemination of bitcoin mining chips.' << -somebody- clearly reads the 2013 #b-a logs.
ben_vulpes: 'But she added the uses of hashtags such as "kill all white men" on her personal account were "in-jokes and ways that many people in the queer feminist community express ourselves".' << gotta love these people. "when you make jokes i don't understand and therefore piss me off, i round up a hate squad and get you fired. when i make jokes, it's in-group solidarity and YOU CAN'T SAY ANYHTING ABOUT IT"
mod6: ok, so gnupg v2 relies on libgcrypt to generate the keys, i finally found the code: dpaste.com/3106AJC.txt Seems that it does the same thing as v1 when doing the Euler totient.
mod6: i see one here as old as 1.2.0
ben_vulpes: ah i do enjoy the odd kids' movie, but those are largely action movies as well
asciilifeform: ... same pattern as others.
pete_dushenski: calgary is a good bit more temperate than edmonton (300km further north) as a result of the chinook winds
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 2 for trinque with note: coder formerly known as undata; deedbot maintainer
asciilifeform: suspicious as hell
mod6: we'll be correlating all the data and putting together a bit of a press-release and notes along with it as soon as the v0.5.3 perf test is complete
mod6: ok, so v0.5.3 is compiled and running -- im doing a nmon perf collection on that as well. then we'll have all three to compare.
ascii_field: in other news, 10 moduli as of a few hrs ago
mats: camera at the door takes his pic, prints access card with his face on it, but for whatever reason a super-secure AI dev facility doesn't so much as use the pic for user verification
ascii_field: but it is a slightly less outlandish fantasy to picture getting some of it back as bread&circuses or whichever.
assbot: Logged on 19-05-2015 16:11:34; ben_vulpes: i'm deeming the justJanne word salad as skippable
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-05-2015#1139424 << just picture her as an indoor cat explaining to alley cats the advantages of being pet... and you can like her again! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 19-05-2015 11:08:18; mircea_popescu: "you can start a company as long as it doesn't matter or do anything important"
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 as an item in a list. << hehe
ben_vulpes: i'm deeming the justJanne word salad as skippable ☟︎
ben_vulpes spent rather a lot of time in libraries as a wee one
mircea_popescu: mod6 as an item in a list.
davout: "NYXBT utilizes a unique methodology that relies on rules-based logic to analyze a dataset of matched transactions and verify the integrity of the data to ultimately produce an objective and fair daily value for one bitcoin in U.S. Dollars as of 16:00 London time."
davout: "We are now going to use our name, reputation and global index provider stature to provide bitcoin values that the rest of the market can look to," says Tom Farley, who serves as president of NYSE, the venerable financial institution that has come to symbolize Wall Street and capitalism more broadly.
davout: "As a global index leader and administrator of ICE LIBOR, ICE Futures U.S. Dollar Index and many other notable benchmarks, we are pleased to bring transparency to this market."
nubbins`: for those of you who are not canadian, yellow shirt man got fired from his $100k/yr job as an engineer at a public utility the day after this video came out
mircea_popescu: how about you know, you just suck about as bad as the car mechanic that sets customers' cars on fire.
williamdunne: It was a knife fight, and as soon as one biker pulled a gun the swat opened automatic fire
justJanne: You can start a company, and become a huge multinational even, as long as everyone has enough to fulfill their basic needs.
mircea_popescu: "you can start a company as long as it doesn't matter or do anything important" ☟︎
justJanne: Socialism, originally, was intended to do exactly this: give everyone equal chances, but then let them do their own thing. Of course you can start a company and become rich, this is no issue, as long as no one starves to death.
justJanne: As seen with the parking lots.
justJanne: Also, you often don't need laws or regulations, as they are often ignored, if you use society or physics, it works better. Example: the streets in my city. If you have no parking lots anywhere in the city, people will have to use public transport. And private investors are happy too, because they can build parking lots and charge moon prices. 8$/h
mircea_popescu: since in her world sartre never happened, as didn't voltaire.
justJanne: He could have worked as legal attorney,
mircea_popescu: to propose that you can randomly switch people around as if they were interchangeable parts is already to introduce socialism as a given
mircea_popescu: and burned just as many.
mircea_popescu: this is not an issue, for as long as they understand that this is ok for them and unpleasant for others.
mircea_popescu: in most of the world (defined as africa), females must have their bits cut off.
justJanne: Debt as a liability and debt as an asset have to be treated the same.
williamdunne: justJanne: No it doesn't, you know I meant debt as if in the liability not the asset
chetty: <justJanne> When your parents are so piss poor you have to work as a child to not starve.// some might consider that an advantage
justJanne: When your parents are so piss poor you have to work as a child to not starve.
justJanne: williamdunne: it was used as defense against my argument that "children should have equal chances, no matter if their parents are poor or rich"
mircea_popescu: most of the discussion flows as "comonly held belief 1" "why" "because 2" "why" "because 3" why" "because 1.1" etc
mircea_popescu: the problem isn't that we're going "off topic", as there isn't a topic. the problem is that you very badly suck at most verbal and cognitive tasks. but hopefully we've run the gamut by now.
justJanne: As access to the intranet is bound through X.509 to a user account
mircea_popescu: but this in physics ? as in, stochastics mechanics ?
mircea_popescu: Germany is home to at least 24,000 women from African countries who've undergone female circumcision (as reported by DW in 2004)
mircea_popescu: aha. well the thing is, the books you read are kinda deliberately written so as to make you think you're in the best possible place.
justJanne: mircea_popescu: the Nordics still pay about the same taxes as the US, but you get free healthcare, free college, welfare, and an almost unregulated market.
justJanne: They can't spend anything, as the last two statements are invalid.
justJanne: I'm currently talking about northern Germany, as I don't know the internals of Denmark, it's the same, though.
justJanne: It's the same as minimum and smallest, two completely different definitions.
justJanne: The banks aren't either fully centralized, nor fully decentralized. Anyone can just open a bank, the question is if other banks will accept money from your customers as payment, as they don't know if they can trust your cryptographic signature.
justJanne: A web of nodes is a graph, as a graph, per definition, is just a set of nodes, and a set of relations between nodes.
justJanne: It's as easy as that.
justJanne: Is because they store the money as a cryptographically signed transaction history on the card.
justJanne: mircea_popescu: in Denmark, almost all transfers are digital anyway. As the official system is cheaper, faster, and easier than bitcoin even.
justJanne: If you want, you can try it as a state.
mircea_popescu: might as well have the same argument about believing in christ and move to 1555 to be a nun.
justJanne: All politicians who said the opposite ended up as dictators.
mircea_popescu: there.is.no.such.thing.as."implicit".deals.
justJanne: As you stated before you aren't paying for them.
mircea_popescu: but anyway : i, personally, pay no taxes. agents i own pay taxes in the jurisdictions i've incorporated them in, as you'd expect.
williamdunne: The problem is the UK is mostly shit, as we have discussed. And the shit areas would be far more likely to vote Communist
justJanne: And more democratic, cause the government won't risk ignoring the 7% people who voted liberals, nor the 7% who voted communist, as if they'd ignore them, those parties would just start a fight in Parliament.
williamdunne: My hand might be as soft as loo roll, but its not too hygienic
mircea_popescu: might just as well move here.
williamdunne: But it likely won't matter nearly as much outside of EU
mircea_popescu: uk as an independent state is about as ludicrous today as the kingdom of scotland was in 1715
justJanne: As their economy right now is "European companies open an Ltd in London"
mircea_popescu: the uk... god help it. no country in memory sunk as bad as they have.
mircea_popescu: obviously, if you refuse to trade with putin, this puts "putin as seen through our trade with him" at a disadvantage.
williamdunne: Sure, but I don't think it's a very controversial idea that various rules such as the AML set put entire regions of people at a disadvantage
mircea_popescu: but anyway, to round off the "social marketplace" thing : if one is to reclassify slave labour as "voluntaryism", which is undoubtedly erroneous but nevertheless coherent with the presupositions proposed, then sure, i am a champion of "the northern model"
mircea_popescu: purely economic. as hitler actually pointed out : we don't have enough land to exploit. either we fight or "the way of life" has to change.
justJanne: As seen in places like Switzerland.
justJanne: Not really, I didn't take it as 3rd or 4th language in school
mircea_popescu: such as "northern countries" w/e that may mean.
BingoBoingo: justJanne: Seeing as the library profession here requires a graduate degree it wouldn't be sustainable here.
trinque: mircea_popescu: could just as well be something taught to everyone, that risk is terrible and to be avoided
williamdunne: On a similar note, I considered dunne.so and thug.so as alternative to thethug.life
assbot: Logged on 19-05-2015 06:28:51; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-05-2015#1137583 << yes. and it only works for as long as there's free herring in the scania straight, or for as long as kennedy is ein berliner and airlifts food for free, or for as long as the north sea oil lasts, or for as long as insane luck rolls keep going. otherwise, fuckall, german peasants were the most unfortunate wretches throughout the intermediate pe
mircea_popescu: about something else masquerading as it.
williamdunne: justJanne: Poor would benefit as much as anyone else, well, the working poor
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> <justJanne> Currently the food production of the world could support 10 billion people. << that's not the point. sure, food could be produced to feed 10, 100, one trillion. does not mean anyone wants more idiots running around. too many as it is. << Speaking about agriculture. Lots of fallow fields this year.
justJanne: williamdunne: when you'd try to implement this system in reality, as a social system.
mircea_popescu: <justJanne> Currently the food production of the world could support 10 billion people. << that's not the point. sure, food could be produced to feed 10, 100, one trillion. does not mean anyone wants more idiots running around. too many as it is.
justJanne: As long as this place can stay the way it is.
justJanne: Voting makes it 50% freedom, as at least 50% of the people gets their choice.
justJanne: *as
justJanne: War might be interested in Europe, as an entity
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-05-2015#1137760 << obv, as displayed in chat. the most amusing part being the implicit expectation one'd care. which apparently only exists because it was never challenged. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "This room has vx gas in it!11" "no, not really, act as if it did."
BingoBoingo: A bicycle is just dead wait that's going to get stolen as soon as you have to go inside a building
mircea_popescu: there's no rule that "everyone must has", be it equal chances or whatever else. there's also no rule that everyone's just as good as everyone else.