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ag3nt_zer0: trinque: well the stuff of matter must rest upon something, no?
trinque: and I tend to interpret it along those lines, rather than there actually existing some transcendental realm where concepts exist, dance about, generating meaning
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: more pointedly, I tend to assume that where someone makes broad generalizations about "being", they've actually given me a command
asciilifeform: in other news, happy 22nd june, actual-start-of-ww2-day, to all.
trinque: I tend to be wary of systems that try to provide a taxonomy of human action
ag3nt_zer0: well I suppose one way to english the difference is that a traditional orientation would be vertical (upward, toward the absolute, what not), vs horizontal (man is measure of all things and human contentment and "happiness" main goals)
ag3nt_zer0: it is really perennial traditionalism, or perennialism that I am thinking of
trinque: it's interesting then to see humanism in contrast to that term, as humanism seems to imagine this platonic form of "human" which we all resemble, and are therefore intrinsically valuable somehow
ag3nt_zer0: Plato was a traditional philosopher
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: shotgun definition: orientation toward a suprahuman or transcendental "dimension" ☟︎
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: how do you define traditionalism?
ag3nt_zer0: anyway it's just nice to be in a room that has some good heads in it...
trinque: ah, you'll have to ask him then
ag3nt_zer0: nevermind I don't know what the hell
ag3nt_zer0: I guess I am just trying to grasy what mp was excited about... it did seem like he saw a lot of light in the development, philosophically speaking
ag3nt_zer0: agains tradition
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: well I had no idea what structuralism was but read something by mircer_popescu and at the end he said "welcome to the post-post- structuralist world that the internet has enabled" or something to that effect... that got me looking at structuralisma dn post structuralism and I was just confused because what I read was that structuralism was a reaction against humanism -and- tradition,, but as far as i understand, ☟︎
trinque: I don't see anything new; talented people try to do interesting things, and others try to hold him back to varying degrees
trinque: so if it's one of those, oldest swindle there is
trinque: an attempt of many to claim some aggregate which supercedes the individual
trinque: care to restate?
assbot: Yifan Lu | Hacking the PS Vita ... ( http://bit.ly/1BxBrjG )
williamdunne: Nope, she never came back while I was still in the UK
ag3nt_zer0: so, if structuralism and post-structuralism are reactions against "traditional" humanism, and "tradition" in general (which seems untenable given that I see Traditonal metaphysics as opposed to humanism), would post-post-structuralism be pro-traditionalism to some degree? ☟︎
cazalla: crashing this plane.. with NO SURVIVORS! http://corporate.lot.com/pl/en/press-news?article=772922
williamdunne: this is *definitely* not an endorsement, I was simply wondering if they'd run with the money or if they were pretending to do something
ag3nt_zer0: well, can't wait till maidsafe saves us all from that!... kidding
mats: other statal regimes have realized google's sigint model beats deep packet inspection every time
trinque: and the relationship is likely 5% official
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: given what an extraordinary intelligence asset google hypothetically "could" be it's inconceivable that they are not
trinque: just them doing their job, really
ag3nt_zer0: anyone else see this?: http://news.google.com/news/url?sr=1&ct2=us%2F1_0_s_0_1_a&sa=t&usg=AFQjCNGXNGPBMfwnUjDkQ50881YdL1b3IQ&cid=52778884659320&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.techworm.net%2F2015%2F06%2Fgoogle-chrome-secretly-downloads-an-audio-listener-to-your-pc-that-can-snoop-on-you.html&ei=bo-IVainNMHsmALdxKO4Dw&rt=SECTION&vm=STANDARD&bvm=section&did=-2365193554698942914&sid=-2195956548148024079&ssid=cstm&at=dt0
assbot: Internet piracy: Federal Government's legislation to block websites passes Senate - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ... ( http://bit.ly/1BxyUpG )
trinque: look at what those fucking nutbags pulled off
williamdunne: ag3nt_zer0: Thats my point
trinque: no product, fanatics at your disposal, massive prices for your non-product, no taxes
trinque: their tax exempt status is the greatest heist of all time
trinque: there's a cult that got places
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: worked for the scientologists though
ag3nt_zer0: yes, the system is fucked, but I wonder about the feasibility of something created entirely outside of it... maybe on a barge...
williamdunne: Sorry, misread as "education" as a wider group rather than educated
trinque: williamdunne: sure and that primary level shouldn't be considered educated
williamdunne: Although the whole no kid left behind thing is bullshit no matter the level
williamdunne: Eh, seems like it is a good thing even if just at a primary level
ag3nt_zer0: oh ok great thansk
trinque: amply treated here in many threads already
trinque: current system is predicated on the idea that mass production of "educated" is even possible
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: seems to me you can't fix education in its present form.
ag3nt_zer0: cazalla: no, I don't know what that is
trinque: he's the second to last rhodesian
jurov: you're t3ach3r?
ag3nt_zer0: I am coming from the viewpoint of a non-castrated teacher that believes in the transmissibility of the flame - but sees the flame has been hijacked and perverted by the marxist fag multicultis
mats: its beatings all the way down
ag3nt_zer0: is it possible that btc will have any positive effect on the wretched educational system?
ag3nt_zer0: hi trinque noce to see you
ag3nt_zer0: haha a talmudic scholar
ag3nt_zer0: I notice that I am one of the few using the mangled substitution of numbers for characters... if this is crass I can change it haha... but is it possible to migrate my trust? probably not huh?
jurov: ohmy another talmudic scholar
mats: where's the nubs at
mats: would buy this poster
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mats: ill take a dog over a robot any day
assbot: Meet Porter. The World's First Driving Dog. - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Rr4J5R )
jurov: i implore theee, speak up
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2015#1172679 actually, it's close to usual paymium price (and that's why i shop there) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (seeing how a transaction lives as such a finite interval before being included in a block, the % of txn that live as "known to one" vs the total "known to all" is of particular interest)
mircea_popescu: (for the amaterus : txn propagation has a lot in common with epidemiology, a topic recently trouched upon here. in any case : the spots where a transaction goes from "unknown" to "broadcast through one node" to "broadcast to the whole net" are interesting in the general case. and the first move thereof a very good measure of "quality", basically speaking the inverse of an infection's pathogenicity)
mircea_popescu: the number of txn broadcast through one node used to be pretty much zero. i would guess by now it's over 10%. which is fucking insane.
mircea_popescu: i swear the quality of tx relaying is shittening every day.
trinque needs to start wearing more suits
mircea_popescu: hopefully someone named schultz joins. i think you haveto have one.
mircea_popescu: btw, check out how nicely the cult's gangster outlook is rounding out! we now have a guy nicknamed babyface even.
cazalla: well better to encourage the sluts around you to get naked than to tell them you think a boring housewife is a better proposition than them
williamdunne: Aha, its not something I intend to do within the near future
cazalla: anyway williamdunne, you're what? 18? i wouldn't even give thought to wife and kids until you hit your 30s or perhaps even later, go whore it up for the next 15 years
assbot: Logged on 07-03-2015 01:58:55; trinque: what I'm gathering though is I have very little rational options beyond get rich, and do it now
trinque: bahaha that's on par with: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=07-03-2015#1045004 ☝︎
williamdunne: Only a handful were particularly irritated, and they weren't worth keeping contact with anyhow
mircea_popescu: were you basically meaning to say "my idea of ideal marriage is where im just rich enough to not give a fuck" but misstated it as "woman should not work out of the house" and ended up irritating random people ?
trinque: so she's supporting herself by being paid by you to do work you find valuable
williamdunne: If thats what you're paid to do, sure
mircea_popescu: fucktarded progressive sectarian nuts. "i have no religion except this wonky religion that i claim not to be one"
williamdunne: By work, I strictly mean doing something which you have to do to support yourself financially
mircea_popescu: "Because I am not religious, I have no mystical conception of an afterlife. To me, a person lives on not in Heaven or Hell but instead in the minds and hearts of those they touched while alive"
mircea_popescu: if it's worth paying for is work, and if it's not then it doesn't answer to this line.
cazalla: well if she's not kept busy raising your kids or some other hobby, don't be surprised when she ends up in the bed of another
williamdunne: But I wouldn't call that work
williamdunne: trinque as if in you pay for their upkeep
trinque: so it's a garden, or whatever, still she needs to see that her life has some kind of point
trinque: williamdunne: I have had chicks that don't have a career, and seen the detriment idleness can be
mircea_popescu: don't the online whores these days call it exactly that ?
trinque: wtf do you think paid for is?
williamdunne: Do you have to worship a paid for companion?
mircea_popescu: but that's for option 2 folk.
williamdunne: kept woman type thing
williamdunne: Why should she work? Are there not alternatives to a job
mircea_popescu: ^ very good statement of the problem.
trinque: everyone needs something productive to do; what's she going to do, stare at a picture of you all day while you're off living?
mircea_popescu: well so then why shouldn't she work.
williamdunne: Well in which case option 1 is the beyond obvious choice