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mircea_popescu: jesus shit this shouldn't exist.
mircea_popescu: 5) Function Macros And Recursion <<< "What ended up being the bug in my preprocessor for this test case was in evaluating the argument prescanned tokens that were passed to a function macro invocation. If the function macro being invoked contained a token with the same identifier as the function macro being invoked, but didn't actually call that function macro, it would incorrectly disable this token. This bug combine
mircea_popescu: i don't think most paradigms... to call personal ideologies thusly, do not allow for emergence specifically
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379535 << i don't think bmi is intended to cover that case. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: msvc shouldn't even be fucking supported in the first place.
mircea_popescu: ./serialize.h:// There's a clever template way to make arrays serialize normally, but MSVC6 doesn't support it
thestringpuller: But this isn't feasible economically.
thestringpuller: So how is derp supposed to even begin to learn correctness, if he can't understand what a correct foundation is.
asciilifeform: 'you aren't virile enough! go feed yourself to pigz!111'
mircea_popescu: some kids gotta ask their parents, some don't.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379925 << actually the concept can be introduced much neater. there exist two sorts of men in this world, and they are distinguished readily when an alluring woman makes an interesting proposal. some can't, and some "let's go". the principle (in reverse), is illustrated in http://trilema.com/2014/the-romanian-language-for-other-people/#selection-41.0-45.1 ☝︎
thestringpuller: "guise guise guise. can't we just all get along. plz? we shouldn't be having civil wars guise."
mircea_popescu: ./main.cpp- for (;;) << i don't get it, if it's going to do plain for(;;) why the fuck does it want the fancy boost_foreach ?
mircea_popescu: i suppose programmers also don't get to know about respectable hatmans ?
mircea_popescu: i can't say i see merit in any of these propositions.
mircea_popescu: not so. just like fucking isn't a fundamentally insane act.
asciilifeform: 'don't destroy your brain with 20 years of cube first' ?
thestringpuller: it sounds like you don't believe a polymath can truly exist
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: and can't automate this, because will be sacked, as pictured in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=388 ?
thestringpuller: how programming == data entry, I don't know
thestringpuller: but i don't think that results in freedom
mircea_popescu: the man who had a working plane and no boat made himself a leaky boat that couldn't fly. then the japanese bombed him.
asciilifeform: and also don't wait for me to write a fits-in-head and provably non-misbehaving btc client, even though i would much like to, know exactly how, and even have bits'n'pieces sitting around. because instead of this i'm stuck doing pointless crud in шарашка, so as to eat.
asciilifeform: but don't wait for this.
mircea_popescu: then there's the case (as is here) of folk who can't get out of the fencing error so fix the code on the 2nd pass.
mircea_popescu: no idea why anyone thinks "bitcoin will take over the world". they can't possibly be talking of the prb codebase.
asciilifeform: and as i described (and i think ben_vulpes did even earlier) the thing isn't ~actually~ multithreaded, in the sense of being able to evaluate multiple requests in parallel
mircea_popescu: before i couldn't do merchant of venice because broken tools. now can't because instead going through 10k lines dump to find the junk.
mircea_popescu: i hadn't priorly noticed. what's one to do
asciilifeform: l0l i can't wait till mircea_popescu discovers all of the 'wonders'
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6, shinohai: the version string patch works. BUT you will always see the default version in the boot log!! << personally I haven't even tried this yet. but I think he was saying that he checked the getinfo and that hadn't updated either.
mircea_popescu: i don't think the difference was ever stressed enough or for that matter all that well understood. what "big studios" do for software, ie, throwaway crap that's not expected to a) work for everyone or b) work for more than a few years is VERY STRICTLY opposite to what bitcoin does.
asciilifeform: i can't seem to find it in the logz
mircea_popescu: i also don't fix any of the combustion engines that i own by myself - even if once i took apart and put back together a trabant.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> well, honestly, this wasn't intended as a release candidate, more like a commentary item << ok good deal. was kinda wondering if the forthcoming release patch should bundle this one in or not.
mircea_popescu: a file can't mix unlike things.
mircea_popescu: of course the talmud gets away with an earth shattering bonus : "other rules notwithstanding, the law in any place is what the law always was there". they can afford, somehow, to keep geographically bound chains that are disjunct. we can't. but hey, chosen people, gets advantages.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller we can;'t all be geniuses, can we now.
thestringpuller: LOL >> "Don't forget Mr Popescu, who loves to harp on about how Bitcoin is not for the unwashed masses, just two weeks ago had a hugely embarrassing fiasco where he revealed he hadn't the faintest idea how Bitcoin transactions work. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i don't particularly mind commented-out line tests.
mod6: also, about http://dpaste.com/26VKRQG : I left the original code in Sign(...) in the } else { case because i thought it be necessary to have a default. if we don't have one, it forces the user to pick -highs -lows every single time they execute.
mircea_popescu: mod6 you didn't do it because it wasn't in your code, it only appeared once i snipped a bunch
mod6: <+asciilifeform> if (fHighS && (BN_cmp(sig->s, halforder) < 0)) <+asciilifeform> generally i like to avoid hastening ulcers if possible << yeah, i dont know why I didn't do this to begin with. Heheh.
asciilifeform: https://www.bikeji.com/t/3144 << anybody want to attempt a reliable translation from heathen tongue ?
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 12:53:23; mircea_popescu: blergh, i don't have the source.
mircea_popescu: and i can't be the only one.
mircea_popescu: bullshit like you know, avboiding the word cunt because it might make it impossible for some developers to contribute isn't worth the time of day
mircea_popescu: well, honestly, this wasn't intended as a release candidate, more like a commentary item
mircea_popescu: look, i can't use fucking space allignment. for one thing on some systems i need it 2space and on others 4.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this kind of thing is pestilentially common in 1) microshit 2) folks who grew up on it. 'i'll leave a massive space on the stack so not to overflow because i can't count and also can't trust myself to put it in heap and remember to free()'
mircea_popescu: blergh, i don't have the source. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: mod6 i take it back. it'll have to do, can't be introducing case now.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379490 << may i suggest either sticking with the "comprehensible" in which case say -hiDER -loDER or else go for shortness (i don't think you should) and call it -hs -ls ? this "highs" "lows" thing is worst of both worlds. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-01-2016#1378739 << yeah. and as i wait, so does the play wait. the itches i get aren't in any sense in my body, for i wash. they're in the body politic, all. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2016 02:49:55; BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> in other news, bitcoin classic has even fewer nodes than bitcoin xt. who was that guy that was the me of something else again ? << They haven't even released a client publically yet
BingoBoingo: You're skeleton's state if it wasn't a fragile mess is a mystery.
BingoBoingo: copypaste: Apparently you don't Walmart enough
BingoBoingo: Turd's too long to read really. Just try searching it for names and terms that should be in actual discussions about bitcoin and be astounded when they don't show up.
punkman: "The Uber driver was too good of a person and decided to take a cash settlement instead of pressing charges. In his words, "...she was crying (and) said (she) was sorry for everything." I don't want to disclose the amount the driver was paid, but can say he could only use the money to pay his cellphone bill and maybeee his cable bill."
mod6: this is interesting... that tx '893d003f806a5bce121a71e84c260e7879cb6c5464ef93132c0b79e60ff7ff66' hasn't been confirmed yet
mod6: my S value spit out into the debug.log isn't contained in the hex data in the tx: DEBUG DER S: 0xBE8E2E74EBE2618A27D50E0A1D02B33BCE8188940AA22967E9E01AD4D140AB0F
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> in other news, bitcoin classic has even fewer nodes than bitcoin xt. who was that guy that was the me of something else again ? << They haven't even released a client publically yet ☟︎
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: He's prolly going to turn Stolfi, haven't tracked to see if he's done so already
mircea_popescu: i can't see it anywhere. it never propagated past your next hop odds are.
mircea_popescu: shouldn't.
BingoBoingo: Couldn't keep it up any longer than it too ACH to clear new fiat into exchanges
mod6: no i haven't yet.
mod6: does bitcoind start, even if the verstring doesn't change?
mod6: <+hanbot> eh, can't complain. got a sunburn, acquired another deskbox...speaking of which i'ma want to test trinque's makefile bonanza soon, may be firing derpquestions. << cool! i need some sunshine myself.
hanbot: eh, can't complain. got a sunburn, acquired another deskbox...speaking of which i'ma want to test trinque's makefile bonanza soon, may be firing derpquestions.
ascii_butugychag: which i don't.
ascii_butugychag: incidentally, i sure as fuck wouldn't use li ion
assbot: 200 HP Reliance Electrical Motor Type T R U326781 T1 | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1S5kt1G )
ascii_butugychag: http://www.ebay.com/itm/200-HP-RELIANCE-ELECTRICAL-MOTOR-TYPE-T-R-U326781-T1-/252252847844
mircea_popescu: https://www.teslamotors.com/support/model-s-specifications << imbeciles don't list battery capacity. wtf is with these people.
ascii_butugychag: it still boggles my mind that somebody would buy, for personally sitting in, a $100k machine that doesn't fly.
pete_dushenski: well, it'll certainly be fun to watch forbes pretend that "we never saw this coming" and "why didn't you warn us"
mircea_popescu: didn't you read the stories when you were a kid ?
mircea_popescu: you don't understand how the shitworld works. can't say the name or it vanishes in thin air!
mircea_popescu: maybe even something smooth and classic, like, I Can't Believe It's Not Bitcoin.
mircea_popescu hadn't looked before, but on 2nd call... feels compelled.
mircea_popescu: shouldn't she pay ?
ascii_butugychag: 'but you're bipedal lambs, lambs aren't supposed to round up village of vermin and shoot'
ascii_butugychag: and you won't.
mircea_popescu: and if you don't, syphillis mutates and ends your population cca 1490, sfyl, thanks for playing,
mircea_popescu: isn't it the best most culture cuntry in world anymore ?
ascii_butugychag: well we don't have ~actual~ genetic studies here in usababwe
mircea_popescu: hey, don't ask me things. i linked you, link me.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: wasn't that what 23 corp. supposedly sold ?
mircea_popescu: ask your representative why you can't have it in the 2nd best korea.
ascii_butugychag: pete_dushenski: read the src, it won't kill you
ascii_butugychag: i don't want a car engine that relies on cockroaches turning little wheels.
mircea_popescu: but yes, the problem is here : the miners aren't actually doing anything and have no power. for all the posturing, they are at the sheer mercy of the actual bitcoin holders and traders.
pete_dushenski: in related nyooz, tevye is just 5 blocks behind now after... restarting. because "waiting it out" isn't a fucking strategy.
ascii_butugychag: doesn't get to cheat, has to personally stand up the walls
mircea_popescu: if you think about it, getting walls to stay the fuck up hadn't been a point of sufficient isnecurity so as to excite the popular immagination for a good 25 centuries by the time rodari came out.
ascii_butugychag: wasn't that italian ?
ascii_butugychag: folks who don't witness toppling cubes etc. growing, apparently don't fully grasp cause-effect...
trinque: maybe you do, maybe you don't!
mircea_popescu: "oh my baby my baby". well now it ain't your baby anymore so stfu.