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assbot: Logged on 25-06-2015 01:52:34; mircea_popescu: oleander blosom sees
to it
that's
the last
time YOU're running anywhere.
ascii_field: the only solution
to
this kind of problem is game-theoretical
ascii_field: at
the low end of
things, we can at
the very least expect an uptick in popularity of sleeping with a frag grenade under your pillow.
trinque: ascii_field: I see
the point; if a fighter jet is not just itself but
the entire apparatus which sustains its operation, all
the more a space ship/station
ascii_field: eventually major btc holders will operate in ways similar
to
the character 'raven' from neal stephenson's 'snow crash'
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 00:10:01; mircea_popescu: just like having a car doesn't alow having gasoline. it's
true
that often people who have cars also independently have gasoline, but
the
two are fundamentally unrelated, and
there is such a
thing as
the fool's breakdown, ie, car's outta gas on
the side of hte road.
decimation: it will be interesting
to see
the result
decimation: ascii_field: mircea_popescu et al will some day confront someone else who lays claim
to
their property in some way
ascii_field: in actual fact,
the space station is right here on earth. mircea_popescu, for instance, lives in it
ascii_field: decimation: again i have not seen
this film, but it appears
to have
the usual nonsensical proviso
that
the 'space station' is a physical place which
the plebes might hope
to overrun and devour
trinque: if
the proportion of people using bitcoin stays small, I'd more expect holders
to find
themselves attacked in
their own homes at night
ascii_field: trinque:
the gedankenexperiment specifically concerns bitcoin or any similar mechanism where answer from
the 'patient' is instantly verifiable by machine
decimation: the plot of
the movie is
that
the us
turns into shitty
third world, and 'actual people' escape
to space stations.
the plot has some silly shit about helping out
the little people, but I
think Blomkamp's real point is "start building
the space station
today"
trinque: presupposes
that
the guy put into
the machine is using something like bitcoin, doesn't it?
ascii_field: or whether folks will grunt
their last in it
decimation: yeah. Steve Sailer
thinks
that Neill Blomkamp is pushing 'reactionary' plots into his movies, but dressing
them up in such a way as
to make
them palatable
to liber-tards
ascii_field: collapse only changes ~who~ will be placing ~whom~ in
the machine
trinque: the
thing which sways my expectations away from such
things is
the seeming inevitability of a financial collapse
ascii_field: decimation: i must admit, never saw
that film
decimation: ascii_field:
the move 'elysium' featured
this
ascii_field: for simple questions like 'enter brainwallet pw'
this requires no heroic
tech
decimation: peices are already
there with road
tickets
ascii_field: trinque: not only
this, but i also predict specifically
that an automated (i.e. robotic, as in 'coke machine') system of interrogation and 'incentivization' will be specifically permitted by u.s. law
decimation: (20) For a
trivial offence, a free man shall be fined only in proportion
to
the degree of his offence, and for a serious offence correspondingly, but not so heavily as
to deprive him of his livelihood. In
the same way, a merchant shall be spared his merchandise, and a husbandman
the implements of his husbandry, if
they fall upon
the mercy of a royal court. None of
these fines shall be imposed except by
the assessment on oath of reputa
trinque: ascii_field: yep, will involve some kind of "cyber
terrorism" scenario maybe
ascii_field: 'self-limiting' government is
the ultimate joke
decimation: ascii_field: note
that
this is another amusing joke on
the magna carta, in its 800th year
ascii_field: where 'if he locked it in a safe, u.s. marshals may break
the safe. if he locked it in his brain, same'
ascii_field: decimation: aha. what i was getting at is
that
there will be, in
the near future, a very entertaining verdict somewhere,
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decimation: ascii_field: well so
this is criminal forfeiture right?
ascii_field: and
torture is more or less legal by usg's own rules if you are proclaimed 'terrorist'
ascii_field: the 'not-a-real-journalist-so-forced-to-reveal-sources' case ('iphone 4' case, iirc) pretty much established precedent
that 'inquest isn't punishment' iirc
ascii_field: '...pursuant
to rule 32.2(b)(3) of
the federal rules of criminal procedure,
the united states is hereby authorized
to seize
the forfeitable assets and maintain
them in its secure custody and control.'
mod6: oh i
think i know what i missed.
ascii_field: the
total confiscation
thing pretty clearly wants
to lay a foundation for 'condemned
to cokemachine'
ascii_field: 3rd ran medical experiments on a few
thousand prisoners, 4th - on 300+ million schmucks
ascii_field: for starters, 3rd never managed (or even attempted)
the feat of
turning ~an entire planet~ into its
toilet
ascii_field: (after all, 3rd 'died young and left a decent-looking corpse' - at least will be seen
to have, in contrast!)
ascii_field: 3rd reich 'nervously smokes in
the corner' compared
to
the
things 4th reich will be remembered for
mircea_popescu: almost like
the
things soviet russia is remembered for
mircea_popescu: the
things
the us will be remembered for are going
to be so insulting
to
the historical usians...
decimation: since it is fashionable
to change c++ every few years
decimation: you probably need
to force it
to work with C++ 03
decimation: the newest gcc might come with a newer version of
the std c++ libs
decimation: also you need
to be careful with
the c++ related linking shit
decimation: it's possible
the newest gcc fixes
that one issue
trinque: decimation: so build
the latest set of patches using whatever latest gcc?
decimation: if you guys need
to build gcc as part of
the whole package, why does it matter what debian uses
decimation: ascii_field: but pro baseball has its own junior farm
team system, don't need college
decimation: trinque: why not
try
to use
the newest gcc
to see if
that bug is fixed?
ascii_field: decimation: it's a farm for just about any kind of
talent
trinque: got it; I'll get more acquainted with
that
tool
this weekend
then.
ascii_field: (which is sorta like gentoo but minus all of
the 'daily use' building-new-progs-on-the-box scriptage (i.e. 'emerge')
decimation: re: football < it's also
the case
that professional us football uses
the college
teams as a 'farm system' for
talent development, at
taxpayer expense
trinque: I've got crossdev set up on
the lappy
ascii_field: trinque:
the fundamental problem with gentoo on pogo is
that pogo is absolute misery
to build ~anything~ on
ascii_field: mod6: please post
the net.cpp immediately prior
to
the failed patch
assbot: Logged on 06-05-2015 22:20:53; ascii_field: ;;later
tell mircea_popescu ERROR: certificate common name “keys.mattrude.com” doesn’t match requested host name “keyserver.mattrude.com” << when fetching fresh sks from dulap
mircea_popescu: seems
that's a different error and no solution was proffered
assbot: Logged on 09-06-2015 13:03:57; mircea_popescu: curl: (35) Unknown SSL protocol error in connection
to www.blockstream.com:443
mircea_popescu: does curl actually ignore
the -tsl flag or does
the server go bonkos over ssl3 even being available at all or what
the fuck is
this
trinque: I'm going
to fiddle with my pogo
this weekend anyway.
assbot: Logged on 26-06-2015 16:30:52; decimation: mircea_popescu: if you were
to ask justice roberts, I"m sure he would say
that he needs
to 'save obamcare' precisely so
that
the supreme court 'retains legitimacy'
trinque: ascii_field: mod6: would
there be any benefit
to
trying
to get an ARM version of
this gentoo install going on
the pogo?
shinohai: No problem, I don't want
to break my sweet node xD
ascii_field: (bitcoind will need
to be
told your box's ip)
ascii_field: shinohai: when you apply
that patch, please be sure
to read
the instructions
shinohai: I still haven't done
the irc patch. I need
to stop being lazy
mod6: i'll
take it down, and add
the irc patch
ascii_field: what i suggested was
to have
two dox pages, one for 'proper release' and one for
this.
mod6: do you want me
to post
the doxy for
that as well
then?
mod6: <+ascii_field> dnsseed_snipsnip, orphange-thermonuke, orphange-tx-amputation, dns-thermonyukyoolar << ok, yup, was able
to extract v0.5.3.1-RELEASE and apply
these four patches without incident.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo incidentally, know what
the "ex wall street executive" bought "bits of pay" for ? << NO idea about any of
these parts yet
ascii_field: thinking
that mod6 will roll
them up into a 'static fix' patch
ascii_field: they are only needed for
the static build system and so i left
them out deliberately
ascii_field: the
two i omitted are small and simple
to merge back in when wanted.
mod6: ok, i'll give
that a shot here quick.
mod6: (11:31) <+mod6> asciilifeform: I just did
the following: extracted v0.5.3.1-RELEASE applied
the following patches successfully { dnsseed_snipsnip, kills-integer-retardation, nubs-gentoo-sanity, orphange-thermonuke, orphange-tx-amputation, dns-thermonyukyoolar } but when I added
the patch for IRC demo, got
the following error:
mod6: ascii_field: oh, i did have an issue patching in
that last IRC demo patch.... im gonna
try it again, but it complained about net.cpp:ThreadGetMyExternalIP
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: it works
the same way
the english literature department works, just with five extra zeroes on both sides of
the balance sheet