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pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: lol this break is exactly the point i'm making on my 'second crack' update
mircea_popescu: not unlike trying to approximate pi on the basis of fortran four.
mircea_popescu: they just break so irrationally with the past.
mircea_popescu: much like bitcoin finance is so slippery, even for the best financial minds.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nonstandard stuff is nonstandard, disruption is disruption. the bitcoin (tmsr~) management model is simply difficult to grok
asciilifeform: there is so much 'to do' that you could eat with arse!
mircea_popescu: what measures could they be ? shift the active from this to that, therefore disrupting this now ?
asciilifeform is rather perplexed. who, exactly, is lacking for 'what to do' ?
mircea_popescu: same thing, it'd seem. "our enemies", ie, sloth and stupidity, have disrupted our webcomic. LET US TAKE MEASURES!11
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski as an exercise for you : what is the difference between the disruption caused by the absence of the comrade joke webcomic, which nobody has started yet, and the disruption caused by the absence of x service, which equally doesn't exist but at some point did ?
mircea_popescu: the chan is REPLETE with shit to do.
mircea_popescu: there, stuff for people to do. lol.
trinque: heh I'd read that
mircea_popescu: ends up in troubles.
williamdunne: trinque: How can that emerge? Already exists nope?
mircea_popescu: italians only woke up to the model a half millenium later, but basically doing the same.
pete_dushenski: cazalla: just that it's a function of 'inherently bad' incentive structures
mircea_popescu: spend persia's money, spend rome's money, spend turks money, spend british money, spend usian money, they will spend someone else's money.
williamdunne: trinque: Thought I'd read something about them not being willing to do so, can't find it now though so probably the effects of alcohol
pete_dushenski: cazalla: it also encourages more frequent posting and more in-depth research, so i'm not saying it's an unreasonable trade-off
mircea_popescu: the greeks have exactly zero incentive to do anything other than "housewife" and haven't, for ~2300 years now.
pete_dushenski: cazalla: the incentive is there is all, hard to tease out the psychology past that
trinque: they've got craploads of natural resources in their wallet aside from other things
mircea_popescu: when did that happen ?
williamdunne: Russia too broke, no?
mircea_popescu: it's going to simply leech money off a different husband
mircea_popescu: williamdunne no dude. greece has the african scam down pat.
cazalla: i really don't think he does that in order to scoop up a few additional shares though
trinque: from within the wotnet I may (depending on its design) be able to explicitly delegate the hosting task to some other trusted party should I be absent
cazalla: pete_dushenski, be specific because i go so far as to exclude the monthly reports from the word counts
trinque: pete_dushenski: part of the answer to the question of making the republic's bot services fault tolerant is getting them within a damn wotnet
assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 21:21:25; mircea_popescu: yes, but the deliberate design of incentive structures is a bad idea.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179302 << it certainly leads to, how shall i put it, "wordiness" on qntra. certainly not all the time, but that's the temptation. ☝︎
williamdunne: Massive decline or outright collapse, followed by the rise of a Nazi party or similar?
williamdunne: Any speculation on what's going to happen with Greece in the coming years then?
asciilifeform: when they can - will.
asciilifeform: that they aren't breathing $5/litre air is only a matter of technological limitations.
asciilifeform: google folks should prepare for the 5000/mo tents.
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 251.3, Best ask: 251.31, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 251.32, 24 hour volume: 18319.32232325, 24 hour low: 242.6, 24 hour high: 251.77, 24 hour vwap: None
asciilifeform: 'Rented a tent, a tent, a tent; / Rented a tent, a tent, a tent. / Rented a tent! / Rented a tent! / Rented a, rented a tent.' -- k. vonnegut. 'sirens of titan' (1959)
asciilifeform: ^ not tent
assbot: Want a shorter commute? Pay $900 a month to live in a tent near Google - SFGate ... ( http://bit.ly/1dpfbx8 )
assbot: Logged on 25-06-2015 17:05:14; mircea_popescu: <danielpbarron> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-06-2015#1174811 << ya << shit, there go my ocr skills!
assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 20:39:10; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179037 << i thought you didn't exist.
pete_dushenski: either way, an *index* losing 19% in two weeks is 2008-level of panic
pete_dushenski: how hard it this shit ?
pete_dushenski: https://www.google.ca/finance?q=SHA%3A000001&ei=_R6PVaHrOoWo2AaA5YPYDw << shanghai composite index taking a tumble of late.
jurov: my favourite motto was lately "Historia meretrix vitae" .. on seeing these examples I'm thinking how to get it more...er.. penetrating
jurov: (just some snippet i found today, might be vaguely related, but smells by lingua latina canina)
jurov: orly, nobody hunts the cocks?
punkman: I trimmed the bison's butthairs, but they grew back.
mircea_popescu: cum's the tastiest thing i nature from what i hear, nobody hunts the cock.
mircea_popescu: how tasty it is never amounts to much impediment.
asciilifeform: and tasty
asciilifeform: genuine in the sense that 'i killed this bison myself'
jurov: dunno about reward there
mircea_popescu: which is to say : come from things not people.
mircea_popescu: rewards work well if they're genuine.
mircea_popescu: totally. tildeschwitz.
asciilifeform: hilde, the she-wolf of tildeschwitz
mircea_popescu: "I am Hilde, from the Most Serene Republic of Tilde"
asciilifeform owns a book with title 'the of' on the spine
pete_dushenski: twas a mighty invention, that.
mircea_popescu: The Most Serene Republic Of~ << this sounds great i gotta say.
mircea_popescu: ftr, there is no serious evidence as to the exact fisiology of vaginismus either.
mircea_popescu: aha. same principle tho.
asciilifeform: nah that one's bog-simple anatomically
asciilifeform: (where this is sop)
mircea_popescu: (amusingly enough, romanian even has expression to describe this in man - "s-or catelit" ie, they've doggied themselves)
asciilifeform: well yes, this is the theory
mircea_popescu: think of pc as "vaginismus that declared while guy was inside"
mircea_popescu: but very related. a spasm is always at the root of both
gribble: Vaginismus: Causes, Symptoms, and Treatment - WebMD: <http://www.webmd.com/women/guide/vaginismus-causes-symptoms-treatments>; Vaginismus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaginismus>; When Sex Hurts – Vaginismus - SOGC: <http://sogc.org/publications/when-sex-hurts-vaginismus/>
mircea_popescu: (because of the tearing, vagal never innervation makes the smooth muscles over-reactive)
asciilifeform never saw anything like solid evidence that said effect actually exists in man
mircea_popescu: (btw - never ask virgin to clamp down on you. it's a little discussed fact that vast majority of penis captivus cases come out of something lik that)
asciilifeform: didn't mircea_popescu teach us that holes work-anneal ?
mircea_popescu: seems you've fucked that hole into some looseness by now...
pete_dushenski: is providing something to hunt, or the directions to the hunting field, not 'incentive structure' ?
mircea_popescu: for that matter, people also need self-esteem. i'm not about to "provide" it for them, in vacu-sealed packages. and they need to hunt, which does not reduce to "i'ma let a half dozen naked girlies loose in their room see what happens". that's how rich people destroy their children.
pete_dushenski: hm. i have more mulling to do on the topic, it seems.
mircea_popescu: much like tests in school select for and breed test takers.
mircea_popescu: because the only thing it does is select for and breed rats.
mircea_popescu: yes, but the deliberate design of incentive structures is a bad idea. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: sometimes financial, sometimes honourary, sometimes a million other things in a million other ways
mircea_popescu: just not what this thing's supposed to be, in my dreams.
mircea_popescu: i don't see why i'd want to have an equivalent of the mcd supervisor, calling people at home to remind them they work.
pete_dushenski: insert "may" in there, mentally
asciilifeform: i propose the standard unit of measure be '1 moiety'
mircea_popescu: "the demands of meatspace readily overwhelm the demands of #bitcoin-assets" << this is everyone's own measure to measure.
mircea_popescu: hehe wouldn't go that far
asciilifeform: and they don't feel like answering, so we can sorta guess!
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: the ibmpc buildroot sounds like a spec for the 'trilema jobs board'
mircea_popescu: kinda why i keep asking people "who are you". nobody seems to ever be anyone, which is odd, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: for artists i suppose it's eulora work etc. there's really no shortage o shit to do.
mircea_popescu: atm the entry level thing for coders is, "follow the pogo thing, build along, test cases etc". for non-coders is, qntra.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know this isn't a random process. what makes you think it's for him ?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: nvm, got the post-gun thing now
asciilifeform: ideally, no install, just finds a block device and shits blockchain to it
mircea_popescu: a loosely maintained list of posts, and a loosely maintained list of "don't shoot that way dummy" makes sense, but s'about all.