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asciilifeform: it is barely a step above the original 'cadr' machine
assbot: Lemonodor: TI microExplorer ... ( http://bit.ly/1RJR8qc )
asciilifeform: (they were among the original mit licensees, yes)
asciilifeform: 'explorer' was the crappy texas instruments lispm
trinque: that's another I think
asciilifeform: you can get these from dave schmidt, virginia, usa
asciilifeform: you may be thinking of symbolics's 'macivory'
trinque: lisp machine board for the mac of some sort
trinque: not that I've been able to find one anywhere online
trinque: would this one take that microexplorer card?
trinque: asciilifeform: it does seem as per your write-up, that there was a far more inventive apple once upon a time, which jobs put to a stop in favor of iOS appification
trinque: sweet, ty
assbot: Loper OS » Why Hypercard Had to Die ... ( http://bit.ly/1QXIx8g )
asciilifeform: get the real one
assbot: Loper OS » How to Run HyperCard Under Emulation ... ( http://bit.ly/1QXIxoO )
trinque: wtf is this shit
trinque: a yard sale was selling a mac performa for five bucks... so now I own one of those
mats: "There are still too many people out there who think (or even insist) that static linking has benefits. This has never been the case and never will be the case." this guy...
cazalla: mats, just don't drop dead in front of PC with that page open eh
mats: i dunno what i expected when i clicked that
cazalla: seriously though, i enjoy mowing the lawn, that fresh cut look, the smell, the goodies for my compost
cazalla: a shaving fetish.. that's a first.. gotta google this one
mats: pretty tame compared to mp's interests
ben_vulpes: caz has a shaving fetish, gets razor burn, tries not to cry, cries a lot
mats: what are we talking about now
cazalla: i wish i could mow the lawn every day
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-06-2015#1180453 <<< electric mower and whipper snipper seems like a recipe for trouble ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-06-2015 18:10:04; ben_vulpes: dun think the thing has a formal name yet. but that which is responsible for grading peers while syncing.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-06-2015#1180430 << another worthy direction yes. << not jam tomorrow, then? ☝︎
asciilifeform: depends on who got to crap in mine, doesnit.
chetty: asciilifeform, if my node only connects to your node mempool is safe right
assbot: Logged on 28-06-2015 19:13:22; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-06-2015#1180433 << as you clearly notice, the pipe is authenticable does not equal gosspid : we can have out of band authenticifaction as per the above mechanism.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-06-2015#1180504 << still need it, to, e.g., keep lusers from taking shits into the mempool ☝︎
mircea_popescu: what's needed is a fucking ISCS. the intellectual state of computer science.
mircea_popescu: just biding their time, waiting for a good opportunity, honest! wanted to do maximum damage, and as we all know, ~MAXIMUM~ damage is always in the future.
mircea_popescu: they really did mean to assassinate hitler!
mircea_popescu: because truly, it was waiting for salvation! resisting through culture!
mircea_popescu: incredible that this "free world" thing has waited patiently, and incredibly quietly, for 25 years for us to show up. i imagine it will be very hurt in its hopes and aspirations when i spit in its mouth.
decimation: that's shared linking though
mircea_popescu: For instance: #include <stdio.h> int main(int argc, char **argv) { printf ("Hello World\n"); } compiles to 985,018 bytes. This is almost all libc overhead.
mircea_popescu: imo nsa of 1999 was much better organised than the crap of today.
mircea_popescu: "You don't have to boot frmo the CDROM. And if you need a router you have a network and therefore can connect to another machine."
mircea_popescu: like the ornamental tree stuffs.
mircea_popescu: just don't put anything coniferous / wallnut in there.
decimation: ^ note that this is how people made fertiziler since the dawn of time
decimation: yeah that's a good idea
mircea_popescu: horsesht the only way to go.
mircea_popescu: not very useful, for your thing will not be either that wet or that basic. very acidic
decimation: I've also heard of going to the nearest swamp and grabbing the muck
mircea_popescu: and i did add the wood clippings, ie, me cutting off an apple and a pear tree into shape over a coupla years, after having been neglected for 5ish
decimation: yeah, that works too
mircea_popescu: also rots. also provides nutrients. can be split up over the yard beforer first snow.
decimation: mircea_popescu: generally here the received wisdom is that you want to leave grass clippings on the lawn
mircea_popescu: then they will wish to know why isis comes and beheads them
mircea_popescu: then went to supermarket and bought feed for the poor yard.
mircea_popescu: which means about 20 in a year, which the neighbours helpfully PUT OUTSIDE BY THEIR DUMPSTERS.
mircea_popescu: and it was about 1/4 ton of grass each cutting.
decimation: no gas to store, no oil to change, etc
mircea_popescu: well, that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in timisoara i had a garden recall ?
decimation: well, the other reason I use electric: one less engine to maintain
mircea_popescu: i intend to remain able to type my entire lifespan.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-06-2015#1180453 << i use the same thing. co2 doesn't bother me much, however, i will go into the ss before i put up with that sort of wrist vibration. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ^ the most likely picture
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if enemy action indeed rather than the net being a ruinous ball of yarn - they were probably fuzzing for various protocol boojums
mircea_popescu: and now have to work it
mircea_popescu: they had to murder the connection to buy themselves another 16 hours, because OMFG THEY'RE DOING WHAT ?!?!? NOW ?!?!
decimation: implant probes into bitcoind to suck out its blocks
assbot: Logged on 28-06-2015 18:11:44; asciilifeform: and it is slow because philipinos have to crap out the diddled blocks by hand
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-06-2015#1180438 << this would be so fucking great if it's the case. ☝︎
decimation: yeah I guess that's kinda what I mean
asciilifeform: decimation: or if you meant some oddball 'embrace & extend' of the sync protocol - yeah, we'll probably get there eventually
asciilifeform: decimation: that's plain old -connect
mircea_popescu: then the ability of the wankers to poison the chain becomes nil : sure, whatever nodes listen to them listen to them. the infrastructure does not.
decimation: asciilifeform: what about connecting something to a running bitcoind, siphoning off blocks as they are 'validated'?
mircea_popescu: which is to say, i wish my node to connect only to people on THIS list, and let anyone connect to it.
asciilifeform: or say i wanna permit inbounds from lusers but never getblocks() from them
asciilifeform: where 1) can -connect to *multiple* boxes 2) does not as result wall off from inbound connections
assbot: Logged on 28-06-2015 18:10:46; asciilifeform: that will only make sense once the pipe itself is authenticable
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-06-2015#1180433 << as you clearly notice, the pipe is authenticable does not equal gosspid : we can have out of band authenticifaction as per the above mechanism. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: other thing, that will have to be added, imho, asap, is a non-retarded version of 'connect'
assbot: Logged on 28-06-2015 18:10:04; ben_vulpes: dun think the thing has a formal name yet. but that which is responsible for grading peers while syncing.
mircea_popescu: to think that it's not already in there for crying out loud.
asciilifeform: really shouldn't be hard. when commanded, will piss out ascii text with block # <<>> hash
mircea_popescu: have a -checkpoint=111 -checkpointe=113 which takes blocks 111 to 113 hashes them dumps hash.
mircea_popescu: can this actually work for 1.1 ie next version ?
assbot: Logged on 28-06-2015 18:04:02; asciilifeform: can reuse the 'checkpoint' code for this
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-06-2015#1180407 << this is actually a very beautiful idea. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: plenty of outright disconnects, too
mircea_popescu: "The exchange sheds further light on the latest work" << yeah. it sheds the following light : "work" by these wankers consists these days of outputting random strings from pre-made texts and trying to do a cute seleciton thereof.
mircea_popescu: <chetty> is it just me or does that machine sound a bit like mp? << o.O
mircea_popescu: roduced for "reasons". and so he is in the unenviable position of one whom we do not doubt that behaves as one that is guilty - ie, must have known, said nothing ever.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the thing that boggles my mind is that rms ~must~ have known about the fifth column << you would have expected to read about it on his trilema, yes ? of what is this expectation built, if not out of the existence of trilema, and of the existence of mpoe-pr at my orders, and of the culture this engendered ? rms does not read trilema ; in his ignorance, trilema does not exist and same thing can not be rep
mircea_popescu: it all makes perfect sense, looking at it now. they look like patently insane if considered on the merits, but if considered culturally they are simply "i just work here" and "this is how the world works". about as insane as an ant.
mircea_popescu: this is also why poettering et all so plainly expected it to work etc/
mircea_popescu: e world were dreaming about in their cells twenty years ago, like my grandfather looking at the sky waiting for "the americans" to show up.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> linux ecosystem was drepperized so long ago that scarcely anyone remembers. << kinda why everyone is reacting with so much disbelief at the sudden "this is not acceptable". they had been doing it forever, gavin as a marginally retarded peripheral agent of the idiocy got totally blindsided by an armed insurection. that we'd pursue it is i suppose plainly unthinkable, the sort of thing the rmcgraths of th
mircea_popescu: before that existed, python worked fine, and static builds were trhe default and so on.
mircea_popescu: and i base myself on the fact that they worked pretty well in practice until the new generation of "reformist" idiots got involved, and put 'locale' as a concept in c.
decimation: well, as we have discussed here before, the whole idea of shared libraries is kind of a fucktarded version of 'global namespaces'