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phf: "then told me that I had to abandon my cleanup work and start over on his tree, and explain everything to his satisfaction (as a Windows guy) before it could go in"
phf: that explains why when i tried building it it was chasing compatibility bugs down a rabbit hole
BingoBoingo: Gracias. Ought to be a valuable cultural immersion experience.
BingoBoingo: And on tonight's agenda, a spanish test
diana_coman: heh, in good old traditions of a long-gone world and age, eulorans are rather suspicious of change and they aren't old even!!
mircea_popescu: but look on the bright side danielpbarron : if that process ain't making you a scientist, nothing will.
danielpbarron: who is saying that about eulora? i'm not in any rush. whenever there is a drastic change it makes me more nervous than excited, because now I gotta re-figure everything out again
diana_coman: so I just did a quick curl for latest gpg, 2.2.4; at least in name ~everything is changed ofc, but it's a load of lol to do a plain grep -r "workaround" .
diana_coman: in other words a whole new set of worms, veryverynice
diana_coman: asciilifeform, myeah, I suspect it's still widely used in fact; if I get any time I'll take a peak at latest I suppose
diana_coman: for the very impatient: caller fails on the cases where it uses that broken macro i.e. any shift by a multiple of BITS_PER_MPI_LIMB; 0 is just one case, not the only one; further up, caller avoids the issue, as stated
BingoBoingo: First they make mantadory annoyance broadcast in old country when children go missing, now: "The FCC recently announced a new alert program called "Blue Alert" that will notify the public of threats to law enforcement in real time. "With the creation of a dedicated Blue Alert event code in the Emergency Alert System, state and local law enforcement will have the capability to push immediate warnings out to the public via broadcast,
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitfinex. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the code is a valid (1 more message)
phf: plan9 rewrote their soelim as a shell script..
phf: mircea_popescu: well they've believed in the whole "single tool for a job" thing back then, and yes it was a hack (not in a sense that soelim is such a tool, but in a sense that tools that soelim is a glue between poorly designed tools)
mircea_popescu: and ftr, there's no excuse to EVEN HAVE soelim at all ; let alone as a standalone wtf
mircea_popescu: is the hate stirll travelling or is it merely a universe-zsized ball of hate ?
phf: i've actually recently went through an exercise of trying to spin up knuth's plain tex as a standalone typesetting system. it's nearly impossible
mircea_popescu: phf hate was re two things. a) i utterly failed to parse z(item) into (item) so hated ; and b) soelim was a dirty hack [atop a meanwhile pointless item].
phf: mircea_popescu: but the factuals are not necessarily under dispute (~soelim~ is not a phototypesetter is what i said). original hate was against "never seen this wrecker thing before", then when new fangled thing turned out to be an old tool, hate shifted to 1960 phototypesetters. methinks the point is a traveling one..
mircea_popescu: a 2012 kernel will not run 2002 userland.
asciilifeform: a 2002 kernel will neither boot nor run on extant iron. but userland can and must.
asciilifeform: you gotta have a ~source~ dependencygraph.
mircea_popescu: phf let's stick to factuals. 1. is groff or is groff not a "free and open" gnu theft of troff ; 2. was or was not groff a thinly veiled excuse by at&t coders who wanted a pdp to get it, because "they'll make a patents editing system" ? 3. did they or did they not simply copy roff, 1960s era item ?
mircea_popescu: it's a fucking metal chain. they make industrial abrasives out of chain.
mircea_popescu: you know they actually say "a rear" there when they mean area ?
phf: asciilifeform: mostly because it's not a phototypesetter driver
asciilifeform: i eat it as a ж for sumreason
mircea_popescu: zs is a transliteration of a sound in some language i speak, it got eaten as such
asciilifeform: i still dunget why i need a 1972 phototypesetter driver kit in my linux.
mircea_popescu: it was a hack!
asciilifeform: it'd have to be on a musl box
asciilifeform: ( and yes, i'm quite aware that, e.g., valgrind, won't work on such a machine )
phf: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/, i'm being a smartass
asciilifeform: wonder if there's a way to ban it, for whole box. permanently.
asciilifeform: barfs with half a MB of eggog.
asciilifeform: elsewhere on the net, 'We have received reports that the man-db package as supplied in Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 has a vulnerability in the zsoelim program: it was vulnerable to a symlink attack. This has been fixed in version 2.3.10-69FIX.1' << ahahahaha THAT's why it's in there.
phf: --- a 595beeb13e543b7107c182bb23ac7766bd62ab3122e250e90573eb540f89520122150e5f69bb99140bc47ab526c9b7b2a3b2402b09b44b7391501a149876765c
phf: % ./vdiff -u a b
asciilifeform: but if i never have to boot up a 'i have nfi what is this nic' box again, it'll be soon enuff.
trinque: still helps narrow the "what might be interesting" a bit
trinque: mhm, I don't think the menuconfig step can be avoided for a serious kernel.
asciilifeform: it does find a buncha spurious liquishit tho
trinque: only way I ever make a kernel
a111: Logged on 2017-05-11 17:43 asciilifeform: trinque: i'm particularly curious re how you trimmed modules. many crapolade modules don't give any obvious indication that they are useless, there is no mechanism for generating a list of 'THESE we actually need, because of the installed iron, and these -- not'
mircea_popescu: i mean... they played house since they were 5yo and mom bought them a cubic metre of plastic, HOW HARD COULD MOVIES BE
mircea_popescu: it's this very fucking thick vein of ustardian dumb, with "strong" women of a very peculiar chimp-like sort, and token "men". i suspect the whole thing is a continuation into a thin pretense of adulthood of some idiot girls' ken-and-barbie pubescent fantasies.
mircea_popescu: i was not inb the slightest appointed. i knew going in it's gonna be CGI-for-TV. with a cast of idiots...
phf: i had a similar reaction to dark shadows, what a disappointment.
mircea_popescu: oh, and the ATROCIOUS "computer enhanced" female actors. jesus god really, that untalented hack heathcote not only missed her only life's calling (which doubtlessly is playing the WAG for some retarded athletic team from aussieland) but actually looks like a whole filing cabinet's worth of anime fell on her ?
danielpbarron: have you done a review of "no country for old men" yet? would very much like to read that
mircea_popescu: it's not the usual "here's four dumb bitches on a TV show set" like that atrocity with johnny depp
danielpbarron: i guess it's not the worst one. just a guy going crazy in a room. but still ends up having to do with trying to save a woman or something
hanbot: predicting what movies mp'd like is a long hard road peppered with "oh come ON"s
mircea_popescu: it's a wonder he and norton didn't end up married. he could have implanted all the tit fat they scooped out of angelina jolie and adopted a buncha west african urchins.
mircea_popescu: he's a great actor imo ; but yes total pantsuitard, keeps doing idiotic scripts.
danielpbarron: hanbot, it used to be in the repository. they removed it after i published my recipe, not even a month later
hanbot: danielpbarron didja post somewhere about why you chose a kernel version not in repository?
trinque: which obviously can be a v-tree of ebuilds.
trinque: ah. there's a mechanism for this that might be cleaner than editing the portage dir. I intend to use it in the cuntoo thing.
trinque: digest produces a new manifest of hashes for the distfiles mentioned in the ebuild
danielpbarron: i copied /usr/portage from my currently working machine to this laptop that's still chrooted from the usb booter, then ran a script that does: ebuild * digest where * is all *.ebuild in that directory
danielpbarron: sounds like a cancer actually
asciilifeform: if its in portage, its a port, eh
danielpbarron: just noticed my stripped down gentoo has a shit load of web browsers in /usr/portage that i never told it to install. what's the deal with that?
mircea_popescu: this item is a lot like a car lighter socket popcorn popper.
asciilifeform: i did. on a sun. in.. 2002?
asciilifeform: 'The sound must be stored as a file in RIFF-WAVE format (‘.wav’) or Sun Audio format (‘.au’).' << suggests vintage
asciilifeform: 1st time i heard of such a thing
mircea_popescu: maybe it's a systemd clal.
asciilifeform: pretty sure that mod6 hosts a curl, at trb www
hanbot: did a cursory look for republican utils package, found nothing, huffed off in frustration.
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1754912 << sorta-kinda on topic, i attempted a trb install in the field last week, was *thrilled* to discover curl doesn't ship with ubuntu 10.04 (?!) ☝︎
asciilifeform: dat's a lotta watt
BingoBoingo: What kind of shopvac? they happen on a spectrum
asciilifeform: dulap-III has only 4 fans, plus 5th in ps, none of'em any bigger than a 'D' battery. and yet sounds quite like shopvac at full blast.
BingoBoingo: Not a very big space, not very big fans and yet...
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Was re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1754828 also a bit of awe there ☝︎
asciilifeform: i literally couldn't think of a worse algo.
BingoBoingo: No particular reason to care, but it's a detail to be noticed
asciilifeform: if the sync behaviour weren't so atrociously retarded, this'd be a pretty simple thing
ben_vulpes: if an email player, why not a music reader?!
trinque had a muntzed emacs port while sitting on obsd.
trinque: no need for a useflag there
asciilifeform: trinque: although, the end of the line in my eyes is : a fully deautoconfized set of packages.
asciilifeform: trinque: no banhammers -- it's a useless item
trinque: asciilifeform: openbsd is a tree of makefiles
asciilifeform: trinque: a separate q : can haz fully depythonized port system ?
trinque: ideally what we end up with is a ports tree that builds on more than one (sane!) system
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: do you have a depoetteringization recipe for openbsd ?
trinque will keep a few unixes around, needn't marry only one
asciilifeform: tbh i do wish we were using a bsd as the base
trinque: danielpbarron: excellent re: preserving distfiles. I've got a few piles, bet asciilifeform has too
asciilifeform: funnily enuff the box i'm making nao, is destined to become (among other things) a cuntoo mirror.
danielpbarron: if this works, it should be a pill against all future shitkgnomery, but will requiring hosting about 2 gigs of files
danielpbarron: my recipe is broken again. i'm currently testing a script i wrote that manually makes the ebuild digests based on files i have on already running machines
trinque: incidentally cuntoo is a fine name for a reproductive gentoo
trinque: part of the exercise will be to get a statically linked adatronic gcc, with which to build gnat from inside the musl system.
asciilifeform: i've been trying danielpbarron's ( which used , in turn, pieces of mine , which was merely a list of banned turds )
asciilifeform: ought to be specific -- it's the mere fact that a binturd of name 'systemd' is present.