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a111: Logged on 2015-05-20 15:03 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-05-2015#1139680 << speaking of this, am I the only one nonplussed by all this "we use <<best practices>> fixed exponent" bs ? it's an unavoidalbe magic number , okay, but it's tyhe sort that should eminently be a knob for the user. a proper gpg would have e user-settable at the key generation phase (with 65536+1 as a default, sure)

a111: Logged on 2016-08-03 02:58 mircea_popescu: incidentally, the curious amateur historian may be well served by a review of the 2nd anglo-dutch war. some underlined parts : the anglos were deeply overextended politically - their crummy country consisting of one single town and a bunch of retarded peasants ; while the republic had many more merchants, with lots more money. in practice this meant that the english could pay for one ship where the dutch could afford seven ;

a111: Logged on 2015-05-24 14:45 Apocalyptic: "there's no guarantee p and q have the same bitsize is there ?" // I think there is, a couple of lines above it generates them both with nbits/2 bits, so I would say yes, unless there is a bug in "generate_secret_prime", because this function specifically sets the two high bits to 1

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/b7ce7e35-60d3-4e97-85e2-1f8c87607d36 << relevant excerpt. gpg 1.4.10. ☟︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well... indirectly: us.

asciilifeform: fabio__: understand, also, that someone who offers you a more complicated (i.e. more moving parts) cryptosystem without ~justification~, is attempting to compromise your security, no less than if he were stalking in your garden under the cover of night bristling with cameras and antennae

fabio__: your said "fabio__ rsa has the advantage that it's the simpler solution."

mircea_popescu: fabio__ rsa is not breakable in the "shit someone broke openssl" sense you seem to be thinking of.

asciilifeform: fabio__: what kind of details are you interested in ? there is no reduction-to-complexity-class proof of hardness for either cryptosystem.

mircea_popescu: fabio__ rsa has the advantage that it's the simpler solution. i thought i said this before.

asciilifeform: fabio__: the only cryptosystem for which any rigorous analysis exists is vernam (otp).

asciilifeform: fabio__: it is helpful to understand that cryptographic breaks are quite unlike ANY other type of engineering failure.

asciilifeform: fabio__: not how it works.

deedbot: fabio__ voiced for 30 minutes.

asciilifeform: $up fabio__

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is conflating the sc4mz0rs with their chumps

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aaaaaaaaaaand it's 'flagged' (gone) on hn.

mircea_popescu: fabio__ you don't specifically know whether and which curves may be surprisingly weak. community consensus can't fix this.

mircea_popescu: $gettrust fabio__

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> openssh is a scandalous piece of trojan work, on the other hand. << OpenSSL is, OpenSSH is collateral damage

asciilifeform: fabio__: the cryptographic side of the question is two-pronged. there is a set of 1) questionable actors making 2) questionable claims (e.g., of equivalence of n-bit ecc with m-bit rsa, n<m) with zero public substantiation

deedbot: fabio__ voiced for 30 minutes.

asciilifeform: $up fabio__

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The daily hate?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lel, as per https://genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> incidentally BingoBoingo : it ~would~ be fair to say that the bitfinex failure as presented by bitfinex amounts exactly to a major failure of the dao as meagrely implemented in bitcoin. << Indeed, as presented

shinohai: mircea_popescu: maybe they use the same metrics counter as twitter does.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: illustrations to winnie pooh.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that thing is almost a litmus test for anglo penetration

a111: Logged on 2016-08-02 19:24 asciilifeform: https://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/4vu9qm/pgp_key_of_mahmood_khadeer_president_of_the << for further lulz.

shinohai: I read that sign as "Spammed Travel" mircea_popescu

phf: mircea_popescu: "рубить", "топор" has a very nice sound to it in russian, which is that of something crude, rough, but also to the point. can string a few of those together with a lot of breaks and pauses to get a feeling of "honest" crudeness or somesuch

phf: he was really good at playing working class revolutionary, in the old tradition of "going native", just look at him https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3385/3635935907_817fa1e408.jpg. his whole style is that of мужицкий топор and he used his refined ear to play it very nicely, found it very surprising when the топор just kept chopping on its own

asciilifeform: next mircea_popescu will blame gulag on mayakovsky, or wat.

trinque: mircea_popescu │ ah sweet it puts the deed bundles in here now ? << sho nuff

gribble: [17:56:55] <mircea_popescu> ;;lastblock

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: elaborate ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: original phuctor story on that site was manually replaced with 'japanese toilets' link

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/hn.png << 'why japanese toilets did not catch on in usa' in 3, 2, 1....

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: interestingly - silent, painlessly, thing is literally a knife

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i spent 5min prying loose the battery (they glued it) and another 5 wiping off the blood.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: for bonus gross, the entire inside of the metal cup that comprises the body of the pnoje, is razor-sharp, literally you will not notice as it opens all of your fingers at once ☟︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: perhaps penalty ought to be a mandatory excursion to usa, to learn how to parallel-park.

asciilifeform: ^ pete_dushenski, phf, other connoisseurs ^

asciilifeform: ;;later tell ben_vulpes http://www.loper-os.org/pub/gasbag.jpg << lulzy, old bloated cell from pnoje ☟︎

asciilifeform: https://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/4vu9qm/pgp_key_of_mahmood_khadeer_president_of_the << for further lulz. ☟︎

diana_coman: phf, in that case basically mircea_popescu has a point anyway and there isn't anywhere to go otherwise; I read it to mean what I said above (so no, not the best etc) - maybe I was just so tolerant as to miss the bullshit entirely

phf: i think that if you approach jrrt as literature and worse start applying literary analysis to it, then mircea_popescu wins in the first round. if you start looking for life lessons and values in jrrt books it's a lot of really dodgy shit

phf: diana_coman: perfectly fit for proper and good life as defined by tolkien, somehow magically fit for all the necessary tasks of the quest. even fighting, like pippin and merry after they are split from fellowship. they are literally only unfit for things that are bad, and even there frodo eventually at the last moment gets corrupted, Let That Be A Warning To You All

asciilifeform: neato mircea_popescu

diana_coman: mircea_popescu, hm, as far as I recall they are not great fighters at all for one thing

mircea_popescu: diana_coman finer, i will wager, than anything to be found in the 50k lop (lines of pablum) here under consideration.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman take the story of the whore who wanted to fuck the patriarch. it's a fine story.

diana_coman: <mircea_popescu> really, byzantine fiction (currently known as the vulgate) is much better. but i don't think much more of the people who regard the bible as "great writing" than of the tolkien fans. <- fans, lol; out of curiosity: an example as to "much better"?

phf: asciilifeform: luddism point is aligned with what mircea_popescu is saying, so nobody's really interested in shooting own foot :>

asciilifeform: diana_coman: aha, recall, he wrote in the shadow of german bombers.

a111: Logged on 2016-08-02 18:06 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-02#1513000 << and that is the point there. greatness in smallness, and http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-02#1512876 and all that jazz. perhaps best explained by monty python : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: ty, thing we discussed is nearing publication

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'the next prime following' prolly ought to be 'the first prime following' -- otherwise we get 'run from me to the next oak tree'

hanbot: mircea_popescu wow wtf.

asciilifeform: ty mircea_popescu .

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/dfaa9d9f-cc4a-465f-b291-8715f65ceed8/?raw=true << draft of phuctor finds qntra, plox to edit and pass to BingoBoingo

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is still punching this ~wholly imaginary bag, instead of the actual jrrt

a111: Logged on 2016-08-02 17:20 diana_coman: I'll add only the message that considered to be "what Tolkien had to say" (even though he did it through "not-real-life universe") namely that all and everyone (yeah, the ordinary and no, they are not made anything by gandalf quite pointedly not made anything by him) is in some way responsible /called to do something when shit hits the fan; that is all I guess

a111: Logged on 2016-08-02 16:18 mircea_popescu: diana_coman you know that medieval "for lack of a nail" thing ?

hanbot: well there's an interesting cleavage. it's probably a stretch but i might suggest that tolkein's bit with gollum shares the sensual/sexual/at any rate internal-and-external, physical change via subjugation of self that appears in say alice's "eat me" wafers, if that does anything for you mircea_popescu

hanbot: <phf> mircea_popescu: what about stevenson, doyle, dumas, kipling, they also all fall into that category? << and what of verne & carroll?

mircea_popescu: when i was a child i wore blue, and diana_coman wore pink. thanks god they didn't mix up the colors, lest i'd have grown tits ?

BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Well butthurt does tend to fade. If it persists longer than two weeks they have to see a doctor

mircea_popescu: diana_coman methinks you just explained what you asked of me.

phf: mircea_popescu: what about stevenson, doyle, dumas, kipling, they also all fall into that category?

BingoBoingo: By butthurt readers I especially mean WAPO http://www.slate.com/blogs/nightlight/2016/07/31/harry_potter_and_the_cursed_child_reviewed.html

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Seriously. In the interim the butthurt is a lot of win.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd remove sks from your 'contact me' page if i were you

mircea_popescu: diana_coman you familiar with bouvard & pecuchet, the dicitonary readers ?

mircea_popescu: what doth surprise me however, diana_coman , is that the allergy i presume in you for the works of "socialist realism" does not somehow extend to... this here OTHER, exactly the same, socialist realism.

diana_coman: mircea_popescu> this activity, not just "tolkien" but generally "reading", is very much subverted in the anglotard world. have yo useen this, whole carloads of white, quiet, mousy people "reading a book" on their commute <- actually I saw this in FRANCE

asciilifeform: when and where did mircea_popescu see this ?

mircea_popescu: diana_coman not at all.

diana_coman: mircea_popescu, "there's no errect penis in tolkien's book" - is this a correct description of the main fault you find?

BingoBoingo: diana_coman: It is the manifestation of the Obeast's character defects amplified by their access to butter.

diana_coman: mircea_popescu, absolutely; I can't compute it atm at all, not even enough to spit out something meaningful on it

mircea_popescu: diana_coman miserable error message.

diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I don't get it

BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> exactly because they are not special << And then they take a shit on national borders et al. Reading this sort of immersive universe is exactly how awkward teens become bornies/aspies/et al because they can wait for Gandalf to make them different and interesting.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman you know that medieval "for lack of a nail" thing ? ☟︎

BingoBoingo: diana_coman: What, wizards don't get to count?

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> nothing wrong with this, EXCEPT it comes with instructions, and the instructions include "how to castrate yourself with your new lego set" << This does seem like Tolkien/Lewis/Rowling et al. Pretty much made to turn people into apies with "worlds where people are special but fucking doesn't exist"

mircea_popescu: diana_coman was mostly directed at teh boys, who never read literary criticism in their lyf.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman this is not true, for i am not people. i am a scholar, and when i spit an error the problem's the code not the compiler.

diana_coman: mircea_popescu, thing is that what people can or cannot be bothered to read has to do with them, not with what is written really; so it's kind of circular: he writes "crud" because I can't be bothered to read it

asciilifeform: granted mircea_popescu may or may not feel inclined to read the b00k, but the 'it suxx because jrrt was english' is a bag of lulz.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman not merely. but that he never tackled any problems.

a111: Logged on 2016-08-02 15:30 mircea_popescu: iirc the army training is more along the lines of "if your mate looks like he's going to become a prisoner, shoot them"

diana_coman: asciilifeform was faster than me on tolkien; it sounds to me that mircea_popescu's objection to Tolkien is that he did not tackle the right problem(s)

asciilifeform: how come mircea_popescu's ethnic allergy to the english dun extend to ol' william s. ?

asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu knows this how ?

mircea_popescu: diana_coman are you with him also on "harry potter" ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nowai!