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The20YearIRCloud: Part of
that $400 was
to have a guy come out with a camera and inspect
the line
The20YearIRCloud: still works somewhat well, but parking on it certainly hasn't helped
things
decimation: yeah, like did
they forget
to use pvc cement?
The20YearIRCloud: Boy I had a crappy day, one of
the renters called me and nothing would drain. Only
to find out
they've been parking a car on
the main drain line. I offered
to go out rather
than my crew
to
take care of it, 3hrs later and $400 we've determined
that it's all due
to someone parking on
the drain line and actually pushing it out of
the fittings.
decimation: a sizable chunk of
the wash dc population would move 100-200 miles away if
they could commute in 15 minutes
☟︎ decimation: I predict
that if
the 'hyperloop' actually works (dubious) it would rot
the suburbs around megacities
decimation: also being within 'reasonable
transport' distance of good food, places of learning, etc
decimation: yeah, I get it,
the meatwot is important
BingoBoingo: <decimation> nydwracu pointed out how coast elites
treat anywhere 100 miles inland in
the us as 'foriegn country' << I prefer
this arrangement
decimation: nydwracu pointed out how coast elites
treat anywhere 100 miles inland in
the us as 'foriegn country'
BingoBoingo: decimation:
Too be fair Kentucky isn't "flat" enough for intentive Monsanto'ing
decimation: "The
total value of all
the residential property in Kentucky ($300 billion) falls just short of
the value of all
the housing property in Queens ($317 billion).
The housing value of
the Upper East Side all by itself is greater
than
that of six states."
assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 21:44:22; mircea_popescu:
that's really
the
tension here : usians currently use
the us like inept argentines:
they huddle around
the coast and pull
their cocks.
decimation: how would you know
that, if you don't know
the hitlist
decimation: neither do I. but assuming
the pogo isn't a complete bust, someone's gonna have
to evaluate
the risk
BingoBoingo: I doubt
that after
today. After
the Chicom stockmarket sell embargo and NYSE glitch
decimation: and 'fucking with bitcoin' is probably pretty low on usg's hitlist (not
that it should be so low)
decimation: what usg agency would perform
this work domestically?
decimation: comcast can barely keeps
the lights running
decimation: I would agree
that if
the pogo needs
to be launched into space, it wouldn't be such a bad
thing if it knew where it was on
the internet
topology, especially relative
to other bitcoin nodes
decimation: but your 'fucked with at
the isp level' argument falls apart in
that case
decimation: you
think you could call up your local comcastic office, pretend
to be hitler, and demand
that a particular protocol be selectively fucked with?
decimation: agreed, but
to selectively fuck with known bitcoin nodes would imply
the deployment of an awful lot of hardware and expertise globally
decimation: but
that usg clock is depended on by and awful lot of shit
decimation: most ntp nodes are
tracable
to some source (yes often usg)
to
two layers
decimation: is it vulnerable? yes. more vulnerable
than proof-of-work? yes, if in
the hands of an idiot
decimation: so if
the pogo syncs
to a random node once per month and keeps
time within a few minutes, it'll be fine
decimation: I would also note
that if
the pogo clock varies in a systematic way (constant frequency error)
decimation: and usg fucking with
the way computers distribute
time would ultimately be noticed by some innocent bystander
decimation: usg didn't make
this policy any more
than england did
decimation: I'm emphasizing
the sun because
that's
the policy by which
time is defined
decimation: your scenario would imply
that no human looks at
the
time served by said isp
decimation: and such an error, if it ends up driving
the clock off by several minutes, would be detectable in a variety of ways
BingoBoingo: Perhaps L1 and L2 pogo impregnators should herd
the impregnated pogos
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> say my isp makes all ntp queries chronically 3 minutes off into
the past << Burn a Walmart
BingoBoingo: Only way
to
truly defeat ISP is mock over
the horizon radar which can force PCB
to recieve all data as an involuntary antenna.
decimation: plenty of shit is poorly engineered into depending on
that kind of stuff
decimation: I dispuse
the 'nothing but pogo would fail'
decimation: BingoBoingo: ascii's argument is
that method is defeated if enemy controlls isp
BingoBoingo: to
the extent ntp is depended upon by other implementations, it seems ntp servers may need
to be polled. If
they need
to be polled
the prolly ought
to be polled at arc4random() intervals selecting arc4random() out of
the pool each go
decimation: unless you are willing
to accept
the risk of a global ntp/router delay attack
decimation: well, if
that's a hard spec, and 'launch into space' is a hard spec,
the project is a failure