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asciilifeform: (as in, actually funded by loot)
asciilifeform: ('infinite money' cultures ended up with equally asinine 'growth as virtue')
asciilifeform: that's what comes from 'stability' as virtue
asciilifeform: thing is, like the old-fashioned proverbial nukefest, above scenario works best as a game-theoretical device
mircea_popescu: unpleasant as they are.
decimation: as the asic investment gets more expensive, it becomes more centralized and oliogopical
asciilifeform: that's like saying 'if going to stot, jump as little as you can'
decimation: "That means that we don't have any other buildings. It's equivalent to taking Frank Gehry, who is considered the world's most famous architect by now and who is considered to be in the same league as Jørn Utzon regarding doing magic aesthetics and magic buildings. ... That's the cost of the Sydney Opera House. It was not a success; it was a huge failure, in those terms. "
decimation: the megaprojects guy describes the failure of the sydney opera house: "The cost overrun was 1400%. And as always when cost overruns happen, the architect was blamed, and his work situation became so uncomfortable, he found that he actually left the project in the middle, with his family, and flew out of Australia, never to return." ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://jessamyn.com/barth/colby.html << as described here!
mircea_popescu: you get 100x as many sats with 0.01x lifespan. 10kx !
asciilifeform: as in, turkeys.
assbot: Logged on 25-06-2015 04:12:48; asciilifeform: no one in natoreich has so much as smelled $bil except by mercy of the crown.
asciilifeform: it 'helps' in the sense of (as they hope) setting up money siphon from usg
mircea_popescu: sure, for as long as it can be used it can be used
asciilifeform: decimation: not as of 2 min. ago
decimation: these skills are not the same 'ting' as taleb wrote
asciilifeform: why would a 'serious' fella 1) use anything but what himself wrote 2) share so much as a word of it with anyone
decimation: as in, why does non-miner node even bother with txns?
asciilifeform: asking node to accept maybe-verifiable-as-not-rubbish-tomorrow is a jam-tomorrow.
asciilifeform: as permanent fixture
asciilifeform: no one in natoreich has so much as smelled $bil except by mercy of the crown. ☟︎
asciilifeform: as in, some portion still 'works'
assbot: Qualcomm teams with Branson on OneWeb satellite venture as SpaceX CEO pursues rival constellation - FierceWirelessTech ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jkc8EI )
asciilifeform: yes, because they did not invent monetize-consumer-chumps as the mega-weapon
asciilifeform: esp. given as in '80s, 'plenty of folks risked, they all died'
asciilifeform: in practice, it means that, e.g., cpu world is as conservative as ancient egypt
asciilifeform: ic put the mega-org (in practice, arm of the state) in the driver's seat in much the same way as nukes once did (if you ask mircea_popescu) or still do
decimation: and note that doesn't help you completely with silicon, as you have pointed out before
decimation: tried to simulate on fpga as best as he could
trinque: asciilifeform: it just clicked into place that these computers are precisely those field radios, as you pointed out.
decimation: I tried to use it once, confusing as hell and also barely documented
asciilifeform: this did not annoy folks as much as it should have because until recently (linux ver. is new) everyone ran it on a designated turdbox with the other wincrap
asciilifeform: as in arbitrary code exec as result of crafted sample
decimation: or as in, can be exploited if reversing the wrong warez?
decimation: as in, malicious?
asciilifeform: mats: 'got hacked' gets same treatment as 'leaked deliberately'
asciilifeform: the folks who own it now are profoundly aware of their position. you pretty much have to beg repeatedly to so much as be given an address to which to mail the cheque
mats: asciilifeform: i don't have anything specific in mind. have been developing my talents in exploitation but i'm kind of stuck as to how to move forward
mats: i want to easily see the values of all registers (as noted before) including bit flags, fp registers, ...
asciilifeform: decimation: the folks who have 'must work' as hard requirement still prefer the whole 'spend ten years with magnifying glass' to 'rethink computing'
asciilifeform: this is already happening. but, as william gibson wrote, 'the future is here, but not evenly distributed.'
asciilifeform: as in bounce ?
asciilifeform: again, it was a computer, sold as a computer, with 'anyone can write for this' and proper docs
BingoBoingo: <decimation> asciilifeform: c64 was cheaper than apple ii as i recall << c64 was easily cheaply stamped product, Amiga was not
decimation: asciilifeform: c64 was cheaper than apple ii as i recall
mircea_popescu: amiga sucked about as much as apple.
asciilifeform: decimation: pre-'next' apple is as gone as cbm
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> the difference is minute. amiga, just as bad assholes. << Sure. The biggest difference was Amiga paid more for parts on each box so they could get the niche live video production market. All the assholes, reamed on their chosen niches
mircea_popescu: the difference is minute. amiga, just as bad assholes.
asciilifeform: s. is approx. the same kind of guide to the subject as svetonius and '12 caesars' is to his.
mircea_popescu: so we're switching "fiction as written by a respected source" to "fiction as alf feels like recounting it for the purpose of current convo" ?
asciilifeform: what if he has asked 'i want to live in manhattan as a free man' as 'terms' ?
mircea_popescu: pick one, they all have it, as part of being credible.
mircea_popescu: or dja regard the present as unconnected ?
asciilifeform: fella was brilliant, and devoted entire trial to making 'rule of law' look as ridiculous as it is
asciilifeform: i see dratel as a pretty obvious case of usg mole
asciilifeform: and yes, the 'software industry' is so utterly rotten that an individual act of deretardification has to be contemplated on own merits, rather than as 'market action', modellable with the usual rules. sorta like buying a russian nuke. sui generis.
mircea_popescu: just as long as it's a meaningless act, carefully sterilized, pointless and ineffectual.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> once you discover the hidden variable - that most of the creatures masquerading as 'people' are actually apes - you are left without one side of the equation << Ah, the Roof problem. Rook shot up nine respectable civilized folk. If he really cared to address his precieved problem his target ought to have been a crack house.
mircea_popescu: might as well say "you programmers don't need any money anyway, look at what google revenue is!"
mircea_popescu: the same would have been true if they were fighting cancer as is true when they are fighting the usg.
mircea_popescu: as far as they are concerned, getting an even bummer deal than code monkeys. plus they have the family dynasties stuff to make it more painful.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as did the rest of the rot.
asciilifeform: people ask why 'computing is different' and answer is that the field had the misfortune to appear at the same time as the great 'democratization' shit-lathering of the 20th c.
mircea_popescu: arguably intellectual problems, such as software, are easier to clean for being virtual rather than physically embodied
mircea_popescu: i am not sure this simplification works as you intend it to.
asciilifeform: once you discover the hidden variable - that most of the creatures masquerading as 'people' are actually apes - you are left without one side of the equation
mircea_popescu: this scenario only plays out in your own mind (admittedly poisoned by a lot of interaction with idiots). in reality it's like this : there are more jobs than people. the system where you pay people a salary only works when there are more people than jobs. when there are more jobs than people you essentially create a large excavator of sense on a large mountain of problems, and divy up the results somehow. such as they
asciilifeform: but as gedankenexperiment re: what a great blight is 'worth'
mircea_popescu: for pay to work as you expect there's a strict requirement that jobs < people.
asciilifeform: or getting $proggy built as-so
mircea_popescu: and yet <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: as far as these folks are concerned, gentoo may as well be a particle accelerator at dubna, ru
asciilifeform: 'pixar' does not live by same constraints as us mortals
asciilifeform: 'mac' ~can~ be treated as something like an irix or solaris box, as a funny-looking frame around a bourne shell and x11 terminal
mircea_popescu: "The crappy 3D support on Mac OS is in direct conflict with that goal. Furthermore, as a non-Mac OS user, I would kindly request that no disproportionate developer effort be spent on such an inadequate and developer-hostile platform.
asciilifeform: they could make almost anything and folks will buy so long as it is vaguely computer-like and doesn't run winblows.
mircea_popescu: anyway. jobs could have pulled something like this off, maybe, as an outlier result. mostly, he'd have failed miserably while denying it all along.
kakobrekla: >The Navy tried to sail away from XP in 2013, but it seemed to hit some headwind with the project as of May this year it still had approximately 100,000 workstations running XP or the other software.
mircea_popescu: as the costs to prop it up just keep on growing and eventually tyhe whole "ecosystem" collapses
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as far as these folks are concerned, gentoo may as well be a particle accelerator at dubna, ru
mircea_popescu: but runs as in what ? "can't access the driver, here's a nice welcome box" ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes nah, apparently the problem is that whatever actual driver support they had, marginal as it was, they're chucking in the new osx
asciilifeform: it was in the interest of (3) that i amputated the 'orphan tx' cache as well.
asciilifeform: understand, the entire sync mechanism as-we-have-it is profoundly retarded
phf: asciilifeform: right, no surprises there so far. i thought that maybe as blockchain grows the cumulative delay will increase, but i don't see that happening yet
asciilifeform: phf: so it works precisely as one might expect.
BingoBoingo: Goat and lamb both delicious, as are suckling pigs
pete_dushenski: and the scope of science such as it exists currently is woefully inadequate to study the matter
mircea_popescu: i suppose on the surface "sudden infant death" seems insanity, as adults don't do anything like that.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu go figure that the courts would find personal responsbility where there is none to counterbalance their continued lenience when it's actually there, as with 'insanity' pleas.
ascii_field: (usg counts as 'employed' anyone of working age who isn't collecting state-funded 'unemployment pension')
thestringpuller: my mom woulda put me in the ground had I spoken like that to her as a kid
williamdunne: Yeah that was about as derpy as it gets
nubbins` weeps as his sides crumble and fall
mircea_popescu: ascii_field iirc the agreement was that it can go, as it serves no useful purpose nor has for a long time - but not a priority. we're atm working on getting the priorities in AND RUNNING
mod6: So anyway, we'll have to remember this when we revist the Checkpoints issue. My patch will be rejected then, and we'll come up with something that gets rid of line 939 as well as pulling the checkpoints themselves out of checkpoints.cpp and into a separate config file.
ascii_field: i don't have a prayer of doing half as good a job as hanbot on this one.
mircea_popescu: the reason there's nothing left there but crooks is precisely that the onl;y deal available is "i try to steal as much as i can, if you catch me you get it and i take a vacation"
mircea_popescu: it's pretty automated as it is. look through wall street "prosecutions" sometime.