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mod6: i thought so too. and it's a credit to my trust of asciilifeform that I verify his signature, and we have a L1 trust between us.
mod6: <+trinque> I can see the point that two signatures would've communicated what you said, mod6 << in that it would have been 1/2 of the foundation's official seal?
asciilifeform: feel free to use a different graphic if the old 'jolly roger' has gotten boring
trinque: I can see the point that two signatures would've communicated what you said, mod6
mod6: I'll give this some further thought going forward. I don't wanna hold off on pulling the trigger on this stuff if all I need is simple skull & cross bones.
mod6: I've tested it, trinque has tested it, but we need a third party to independantly verify so I know what I'm publishing there is as correct as it can be.
mod6: One of the resasons that I haven't even posted the gentoo build guide to the list either.
mod6: I see, we just have a bit different view of the thing. I only wanna send stuff in that I can pretty much stand behind.
mod6: less is more, as always. if there's too much in there, it's less likely to be read.
asciilifeform: compared to most similar boards, it is practically empty
mod6: lol, guess I just didn't wanna clutter up the turdomatic or confuse anyone either.
asciilifeform: when they sign it
asciilifeform: normally folks say why they're signing something
mod6: I emboss cryptographically, stating that I've read, comprehended, approved and would apply in my own battlestation.
mod6: <@asciilifeform> doesn't imply endorsement << ok. i was just under the impression that's excatly what it meant.
asciilifeform: it features my entire shebang through 'stator'.
asciilifeform: mod6: thus far the longest-running test is the s.nsa node.
ag3nt_zer0: asciilifeform: yes I found that... thx
mod6: not taken that way :]
assbot: Logged on 13-07-2015 18:43:01; ascii_field: http://www.businessinsider.com/proxyham-anonymising-router-project-mysteriously-closed-down-government-rhino-caudill-2015-7 << other lulz of the day
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-07-2015#1199502 << thread ☝︎
mod6: There are some very far reaching effects of the patches applied in these build logs. They appear to "work", but as of yet, they're basically untested.
decimation: mthreat explained his hosting guy forgot to pay the bills
asciilifeform: a signature from a reasonably literate wot face, 'i read this and it made sense', is worth something.
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 i dun particularly care one way or the other. the discussion's in teh logs which atm can't be searched it seems.
mod6: I only stamp approval at release time.
mod6: sign the patches before pulling?
mircea_popescu: <mod6> I have created a simple build script << you may consider signing some of the things you pull
trinque: perhaps the flag enables/disables that
mod6: would be easy for me to try now though.
trinque: didn't openssl itself have some derpy module-loader thing?
mod6: statically built. but I recall going through this in march how we needed that in there... just maybe overly paranoid.
asciilifeform: mod6: have you made any experiment to learn whether binary changes at all when this flag is set ?
mod6: every time i've built the 'stator' before, the output binary was fine.
mod6: well, actually, I didn't /have/ to at all.
asciilifeform: mod6: rather peculiar that you had to add in 'no-shared' - witness that there are no shared deps in my executable (attached to 'stator' post on ml)
cazalla: i think the tim swanson story more than makes up for it ag3nt_zer0
trinque: 'tis the custom
ag3nt_zer0: decimation: thanks. guess I should make that a habit before posting here...
decimation: ag3nt_zer0: was already done, look in the logs
ag3nt_zer0: trivial perhaps, and not to make fun of him, but I thought it was pretty funny...
ag3nt_zer0: at the time I was all zigzagged about Trilema and so I asked him if he had heard of it... he scanned the files that the eye accesses when it looks down/right and there was a spark... he said "what's that?"... I said "dunno, run by this guy Mircea something or other"... he said "oh, that guy doesnt like me"... later he asked for my number and when he pulled out his phone I saw his name was Tim Swanson
mod6: thx trinque, asciilifeform, mircea_popescu, et al. :]
mod6: Those were the only changes to stator that were required to make it fit with the release artifact.
ag3nt_zer0: several months back I was at the plug and play bitcoin meetup... Nathaniel Popper was there talking about his book... anyway, after the talk I was standing in line to ask him to clarify something when this familiar-looking chap gets in line behind me. asks me who what etc...
mod6: <@asciilifeform> modified how ? << with stator, I needed to add back in 'no-shared', according to http://wiki.openssl.org/index.php/Compilation_and_Installation this is required for us (probably). And I also needed to modify your line `cd bitcoin/bitcoin/src;` to `cd bitcoin/src;`. All of the things are in the build log, I tried not to leave anything out.
decimation: is on' ascii's node I think
ag3nt_zer0: hey trinque
decimation: my node has taken almost 2 weeks to get to 264k
mod6: This is all leading up to a new "patching guide" that I'm working on. Which is basically finished, save the fact I've yet to decide which direction to go on the build script. On one hand, I really love how simple and clean stator.sh is, but with auto.sh, I like how it automatically pulls the archives for you and creates the directories. etc.
asciilifeform: ^ just to be clear re: above, my node is not, as far as i can tell, wedged!
decimation: cazalla: at least you rode transport that others in the city could use
mod6: I have created a simple build script that will pull all of the patches, verify them, apply the patches at the top of the file. Along with anything else that was required.
mod6: (at the bottom of these sizeable files, you can see me run `ldd` and `readelf` against the output binaries)
asciilifeform: (other than mircea_popescu)
cazalla: decimation, they had a bus for the high school i attended and when i got sent to naughty boy school i was given a train ticket which provide free travel (which was self defeating in that i no longer had to jump the train but could now ride legit for free lol)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: interesting! please say if you are able to replicate this
mod6: mircea_popescu: it appears to me that they are. I have two build logs (one for with auto.sh and one with stator.sh). They can be found:
mircea_popescu: tried to track it with a node, it resulted in a stuck node 0.O
asciilifeform: hasn't been stuck once since i moved the clock, afaik
asciilifeform had actual static, in 'stator', compare with the elf attached there
mod6: Upon successful compilation, both static builds were able to pull at least 150`000 blocks from mp's node.
mircea_popescu: mod6 they be actually static ?
mod6: So over the weekend and today, was working on building a new gentoo-amd64-nomultilib (glibc) instance to test out application of patches with v0.5.3.1-RELEASE as the base. Was able to build static binaries with gentoo & glibc just fine with both a modified auto-static (auto.sh) and with a slightly modified stator.sh script.
mircea_popescu: by any practical measure they were an offense to the land they shaded.
decimation: mircea_popescu: which is why they left, and it is crumbling
mircea_popescu: what, is this the universal excuse now ? "why is he fucking dumb ?" "he is ~~~affraid for his own physical safety~~~ magic wordsd!!!" "oh ok then, all is well, carry on"
mircea_popescu: eh, nothing was ever built by the afraid.
decimation: cazalla: most us towns - even little cities - have a massive bus infrastructure just to take kids to and from school - and nobody else
asciilifeform: 'I know, I know. It's gauche to even bring this kind of stuff up. It's not part of our consensus reality. It's not part of our consensus history. When it comes to actual history, however,...'
cazalla: taking the bus to school such a strange concept.. i use to ride my bmx doing bunny hops and all sorts along the way
decimation: cazalla: Obama's a lame duck, the most he can do is hand out goodies so that democrats show up to vote next time
asciilifeform: recall mr mold: 'my daughter's preschool is literally in a ruin - that is, a (nicely renovated) space which used to be part of a Catholic church. (The preschool is the former convent. The rest of the church remains a ruin proper.) Where are the people who used to pray in this church? They fled. Why? Because they were afraid for their physical safety.'
trinque: cazalla: heh I got bussed as a white kid to the shittier public school back in the day for the same reason
assbot: Weekly Address: Making Our Communities Stronger Through Fair Housing - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1L3XVwf )
cazalla: decimation, i read the other day this Fair Housing update will result in blacks being bussed in to the rich white liberal areas.. btw Obama looking old as fuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lSLIhXrs1Y
mircea_popescu: and ftr i am naught impressed with this "got bugsprayed" bs.
decimation: yeah I think that's how it works
trinque: ask for a dollar, and then write down the "no" response?
trinque: lol how do they means-test that?
decimation: maryland, for instance, has a 'poor people health insurance' where they are required to pay $1, if they can afford it
decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-07-2015#1199899 < the majority of these blacks are actually 'spending' usg's money ☝︎
asciilifeform: everybody who wouldn't bow to massachusetts got bugsprayed.
trinque: do you think I have any connections?
trinque: my family goes back to a big italian clan that moved over in I think the 30s or so
trinque: doesn't seem like those transplants took
decimation: the black were imported to bust these up in order to prevent 'independent vote blocs'
decimation: absolutely. I've mentioned the german community that used to exist, for instance
assbot: Logged on 14-07-2015 01:15:43; mircea_popescu: obviously you can't have "multiculturalism" among things that aren't even subcultures, let alone cultures in their own right.
decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-07-2015#1200024 < the us had multiple cultures, they were not tolerated by the elites ☝︎
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punkman: swaks is a crazy perl script for smtp testing, it works.
BingoBoingo: Ah, on my system it doesn't seem to
BingoBoingo: I don't know? Only one way to find out
BingoBoingo: punkman: Have you tried sending with 'mail'
punkman: ok turdatron must hate me, seems it even ate last email which I sent with "swaks"
asciilifeform: ends with the obligatory [install nsa's ] 'Update the BIOS whenever there is a security patch'
assbot: Hacking Team Uses UEFI BIOS Rootkit to Keep RCS 9 Agent in Target Systems ... ( http://bit.ly/1eY2SsH )
asciilifeform: 'The attack leverages a three-year-old vulnerability in Microsoft Windows Common Controls CVE-2012-015 which is addressed in MS12-027.'
scoopbot_revived: New Java Zero Day Discovered Targeting NATO http://qntra.net/2015/07/new-java-zero-day-discovered-targeting-nato/