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mircea_popescu: the power of the system is exactly this : that an attacker doesn't know NOR CAN KNOW if he';s being sybilled to death or not.
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 03:40:38; mircea_popescu: the people who don't care if they life or die either live or die. the people who do care - end up paying rent to the ones that live.
maqp: It doesn't have to be a family, it might be a parent, friend, someone we look up to
mircea_popescu: well it would, because we don't even agree on what "infosec" is.
hanbot: kakobrekla vspace isn't too horrid, aside from the voice stuff...which i guess makes it an unfortunate choice. at least it's not a heh.
maqp: So breaking the anonymity won't reveal content of chat that could compromise their identity
mircea_popescu: that was my point : that if he was going to barf over tor, which doesn't actually matter or significantly touch the scheme, might as well pick any other random unrelated item
shinohai: Programs in Java but I won't hold it against him.
shinohai: http://news.softpedia.com/news/avast-safezone-browser-lets-attackers-access-your-filesystem-499990.shtml /me likes how antivurs companies that can't protect computers from viruses think their luck will be better at web browsers.
gribble: napedia was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 51 weeks, 6 days, 16 hours, 49 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <napedia> I don't write for SNI. My opinion is that I'd like to see SNI sort it out with economic reasoning and good articles. Pierre's arguments are most persusasive.
maqp: AFAIK Snowden hasn't got a degree in math/crypto, but what he said might indicate something in the leaks the journalists chose not to publish. It's a long shot but since there was no harm in cascading...
maqp: Additive keystreams have very low risk after all and I didn't have to trust single external crypto library
maqp: mircea_popescu: Didn't see that. CEV was built to distribute trust over multiple cryptographic primitives and designers
fluffypony: "It's not clear why WhatsApp settled on the oddly specific number, but it'll be good news for those users for whom 100 just wasn't big enough."
ben_vulpes: phf: thank you for the rewriting and clarification on why vdiff doesn't on macos.
maqp: But since you don't have to read the public key in Base58 format, it could use two different encodings
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: if you don't show up in the forum, marshall hoplits on demand, are you still a senator?
maqp: mircea_popescu: indeed. I just figured the few extra chars were't that important, and that typing upper/lower case might make it slower. I'll have to look into that
ben_vulpes: i don't intend this as an attack on mthreat, trying only to tease out the logic.
ben_vulpes: i also don't quite know what mthreat's doing in there beyond running search and being a known usg antagonist.
mircea_popescu: i don't see how it could.
ben_vulpes: the world just didn't know it yet!
ben_vulpes: don't actually do that please.
maqp: interesting. There doesn't seem to be a setting for that when uploading key to MIT key server
maqp: I won't have to disconnect since it's running on uni server's screen. But you get more assurance on my future bitcoin account signed with my PGP key https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x085ADF061C2B20CD
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's a 1 BTC with your name on it here. if you post an address in this session you got it. if you disconnect before you registered a sig with assbot, you won't be able to get it cuz i won't know it's you.
maqp: yeah, sure. I haven't had the need for it. At least yet.
maqp: Well, since this is a public chat room with no secrecy/authenticity, I don't really see the need at the moment
maqp: I haven't had the time to update the two other versions
mircea_popescu: by no means the end of the world. won't even buy you a walk's worth of county road.
punkman: well I couldn't really give you a good definition of "film-noir", but there's a cynical private-dick type guy, searching for a girl that disappeared mysteriously
phf: can't, all the books are in storage, so i have to talk out of my ass
mircea_popescu: ascii_rear in general, but mind the peculiar way he is using it. merely there to hide metadata from the people who don't have it anyway
phf: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-02-2016#1398750 << http://paste.lisp.org/display/306741 i thought i posted this before, but there are two fixes required on mac os x, sha512sum needs to be replaced with shasum -a 512 (and on openbsd with sha512). since awk can't find the command, it always goes for false. second fix is that you need to explicitly close the external checksum command, because bsd awk doesn't. instead it keeps all ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-02-2016#1398901 << i have nfi how they figure that the LANGUAGE is going to protect you from the hardware. what can it do ? say to any misbehaving items sharing its heap that "oh no you don't, this here is extra special good stuff!" ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-02-2016 11:16:52; BingoBoingo: Doesn't he still? People just listen less now.
mircea_popescu: now who's Markus Ottela aka mapq and why isn't he in here.
BingoBoingo: Doesn't he still? People just listen less now. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: mwell i don't really 'get to' code except for tmsr any more
punkman: ben_vulpes: I don't lisp but thought lisp was cool enough to let you inspect everything in repl
ben_vulpes: oh man adlai i didn't even know i was looking for that
ben_vulpes: however i don't see myself doing that any time soon, and sicp is...somewhat higher on the list.
BingoBoingo: In other news apparently AWS isn't good enough for this round of forkers https://archive.is/Jqv9Q
punkman: mats: there is a SyFy thing called The Expanse nao << possibly the only SyFy show I didn't stop watching mid-episode
ben_vulpes: i don't see how this is anything other than busy work, if i'm to curate the patchdir for presses anyways.
adlai: ultimately, it doesn't matter in quite a similar manner to how past orderbook data doesn't matter
danielpbarron: well they don't come with 'b-a' in the name with content about blockchains
mircea_popescu: shinohai <<< am I only person that thinks this is a horrible idea? << i can't discern what the idea is supposed to be. glorified vps ? 9.95 a month sorta deal.
BingoBoingo: The nausea, if only they knew Mp doesn't have this kind of time https://archive.is/sJc9d
mats: i finished Leviathan Wakes, didn't get around to the others, but i will now
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2016#1398568 <<< "We're sorry, but your asshole just won't stretch enough to meet our rigorous employment requirements." ☝︎
phf: oh, a funny thing from last years interviews. i ask for a month vacation time (since 2 weeks is standard here, i just say 2 weeks pto and 2 weeks unpaid leave) written in the contract, so that there aren't any questions. during one interview guy was trying to convince me how that's bad for company and how it's a crazy thing to ask for, finally at the end he started complaining that he's been there for 5 years and was promissed friday
phf: can't drink with devs anymore though, it gets boring really fast
phf: well, i was out of the loop for couple of years, working for hsbc, and those guys don't haggle over 50k
phf: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2016#1397760 << when i was interviewing last year, was straight up told by several different companies that i should adjust my rate because i won't be able to compete in the market (that's a direct quote from on of the hr people). one company we went through several phone calls where different people were telling me that the salary requirement is a bit high, but maybe we can work something out ☝︎
mircea_popescu: there's 73393 of them A's, so i imagine there's some browsers out there that don't do bounds checkingproperly ?
asciilifeform: funnily enough, last year there was some derp who shat into mircea_popescu's comment section with 'otp doesn't work because rng might burp out N zeros and then what'
punkman: you can't get the bitmap penguin after otp
mircea_popescu: cuz i don't know ~everything~, obviously.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform otp bias cheifly doesn't matter here, as the same otp is delibverately used for both messages.
mircea_popescu: now, 64kb aren't that much, and the structure chosen is literally the simplest thing available for ease of implementation. nevertheless, a little DOES leak even so.
mircea_popescu: it also can't destroy it!
mircea_popescu: for the very reason that it can't create pattern,
asciilifeform: (or doesn't flip.)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform : Let message A consist of individual bytes counting down from FFFFFFFF ; let message B consist of individual bytes counting up from 00000000. Let the enemy xor one of these two against a random, unbiased OTP of the same length and supply the enciphered result. Take that result, and count the instances where byte n is larger than byte n+1. Take that result, and count the instances where byte n is larger t
punkman: mp could choose padding rule if he doesn't want equal length
asciilifeform: otp doesn't get reused.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform notice that this isn't "wins/loses". you're just giving 10 btc away, on the if.
mircea_popescu: it really needn't be done over more than one try lol. srsly ? 1k ?
mircea_popescu: well, alrighty. can't turn down free moneyz.
mircea_popescu: you don't see the crc discussion sufficient for our purposes ?
asciilifeform: if you would like to specify this game in a way that doesn't reduce to gambling on coin flips, i will play.
mircea_popescu: the examples given are not structured and readily reduce to "1" and "0", so no, it wouldn't work here.
mircea_popescu: punkman why, he didn't feel obliged to add any btc to the other one, just bitch about the insufficiency of the sum.
mircea_popescu: they aren't all equally probable if i can rely on your otp being random.
mircea_popescu: if i know you will be encrypting one of shakespeare's plays, otp won't save you.
punkman: you can't do frequency analysis on otp
asciilifeform: punkman: you can't compress random crud
punkman: isn't compressing your otp akin to whitening?
BingoBoingo: Seriously now, there's people paid to believe warez doesn't lead to innovation.
mircea_popescu: mod6> i don't think a billion units is lulzy at all. << what is this re ?
mircea_popescu: otherwise, whores and miners are abundant and i couldn't care less.
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu wanted a non-otp that demonstrably doesn't suck
mircea_popescu: i don't WANT anything.
mod6: i don't think a billion units is lulzy at all.
gernika: asciilifeform: Since I've already shutdown the node, I can't answer your other questions at this time. I will once I've started it up again and it re-wedges (i.e. no new accepted blocks for 12+ hours)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2016#1398118 << it remains a challenge to get folks to produce things to scratch your itches when you aren't the one paying. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i don't need "experts" and "universities" to tell me 1800 state of the art.
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 15:35:48; asciilifeform: problem is that one doesn't get to 'make a name' in academe as 'cryptographer' by pushing rsa.
thestringpuller: every netsec guy at my coal mine is like "RSA is bad don't use it mmmkay. ECC please"
asciilifeform: in which case you get the ridiculous american number of 30. which assumes an ideal spherical horse of an empire where the chump actually keeps getting that 100k for 30 years, and it isn't eaten away at by spiraling costs of fuel, food, medical, etc.
mircea_popescu: "if you make the list of places, and cross out the places where you woujldn't want to be seen, the result is the list of cool places"
asciilifeform: now what i don't grasp is how the bitcoin block size thing wormed its way into that thread
mircea_popescu: dude wasn't slashdot supposed to be made out of informed people and whatnot ?
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 16:45:04; mircea_popescu: see alf ? you don't know things!
mircea_popescu: what exactly is "breakinjg down" about me telling some random farmer at political rally why he can't have living wage ?
mircea_popescu: I think I know what (s)he is talking about - it's similar to this one https://vimeo.com/7125141 [vimeo.com] , and involves MP breaking down in the face of confrontation. Not necessarily crying per se, but he acts like a kid who has been told he can't go out and play until he eats his broccoli. Might even be the same event, but this video was put out by MP and is edited to make MP look good, at least in his own eyes. <<
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 16:33:13; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2016#1397760 << wasn't it just last year the vc circus was special pleading up and down the ying-yang that there's a horrible unmeetable demand ?
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 16:16:03; danielpbarron: turn based, so latency isn't an issue
mircea_popescu: see alf ? you don't know things! ☟︎