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mircea_popescu: nobody yet stopped
to consider "the real color of butter" for packaging purposes afaik,
mircea_popescu: they put butter in blue or red or yellow packaging according
to what
the focus group says. you
think butter is "red" ? butter is butter.
mircea_popescu: sure,
the
turdmeisters in charge of
the herd sell it
thus.
mircea_popescu: mno.
the notion
that hitler was populist is akin
to
the notion
that obama is democratic.
mircea_popescu: this
turned out
to be more expensive
than originally
thought, but it was done neverthjeless.
decimation: yeah, but
the main point is
that hitler was a populist dictator who actually delievered on his promises
to a great degree
mircea_popescu: as hitler correctly figured out (and plainly said so) ,
the only future of germany as a nation lay in
the destruiction of britain as an empire.
mircea_popescu: so a slightly larger germany. still no different from
the previous situation.
mod6: don't challenge me
to a spelling contest, i'll lose.
decimation: mircea_popescu: alright, perhaps
the sudetenland (sorry jurov)
mircea_popescu: otherwise, on
their own merits, nobody wants
to hold
the lands of orcs.
mod6: gonna have
to
test prune by hand, and
then
test and ensure
that
these empty dirs will persist indifiniately.
mircea_popescu: the only way poland was worth holding for germany is if
they were going into
the ukraine. and ukraine in
turn, going
to moscow. etc.
mircea_popescu: once
the war machine stops, all
the fringe cocksuckers congeal.
mod6: yeah. well, i
think i'll just prune by hand if I do at all. like i was saying earlier, im a bit paranoid now
that some script might later accidentially remove
the dirs if
they're rendered empty.
mircea_popescu: decimation dubiuous one could have "consolidated".
that's what
the soviet union
tried. it collapsed.
that's what
the eu
tried. it's collapsing.
mod6: there's a bunch of lines
that reference it actually, and no, i was hoping
to get rid of
these barnacles without having
to change other files.
decimation: mod6: did you
try removing
that line from
the makefile.unix
that reference
the empty dir?
decimation: it's pretty likely we would have germany+us+ussr
today, or at least
they would have been a 'triumvirate' during
the cold war
decimation: I was
thinking about
this for awhile
today, and about what would have happened if hitler had stopped with poland and consolidated power
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2014 20:39:31; decimation: no, but my point is
that destroying
the structure of power
typically empowers some megalomaniac
to step in and fix
things
mod6: i've
tried
this
thing 48 ways from sunday. context diff, unified,
truncated files, removed files with/without -E smh
mod6: <+asciilifeform> we will need more, more of
these. << indeed
mod6: <+phf> ben_vulpes: because makefile.unix expects
them, (search for obj/nogui/%.o: %.cpp, etc.) << ben_vulpes yeah
this stuff
☟︎ decimation: or rather
this: " Spain’s Ministry of Defence is said
to be interested in introducing measures
that will prevent drones flying in high-security zones following initiatives in London and Paris."
decimation: ^
typical solution
to 'tragedy of
the commons' problem
decimation: but macports appears
to want
to use clang
ben_vulpes: i am clearly not elite enough
to set my own priorities, otherwise i'd be down on
the beach with a margarita and my laptop
ben_vulpes: phf later i'll want
to pick your brain about compiling boost under clang/os x
phf: it's
totally a makefile.unix artifact, since building with cmake/clang works without
them
ben_vulpes: so instead of duct
taping
the
thing
together perhaps fix
the makefile?
phf: ben_vulpes: because makefile.unix expects
them, (search for obj/nogui/%.o: %.cpp, etc.)
ben_vulpes: i've been able
to get on
the computer for maybe 10 minutes max at a stretch over
the past few days, or i'd
take a crack at it myself and figure it out
ben_vulpes: mod6: re gitkeeps do we even know why
those empty dirs are necessary for a succesful compile?
☟︎ decimation: it's not unlike
the ddos/spam problem mentioned earlier - each entity sees
the street and sewer vaults as a zone
to stuff shit for 'free'
decimation: heh yeah pretty much. 'oh we installed shit on
top of shit, what kind of bandaids can we use
to keep
the mess running rather
than investing in fixing
the problem?'
decimation: yeah apparently
they also use
the expansion of
the gas
to cool
the lines next
to hot steam, etc
decimation: cold gas
to cool
transformer vaults in
the summer.
The Dewars sit on
decimation: Con Ed in New York City puts 160 L dewars on
the street and uses
the
decimation: maybe
they need high pressure or something
decimation: it's odd
that
they would use nitrogen instead of dry air machine
mod6: sure
there are other options. nothing quite as simple as "just blow away
the .gitignore files"
punkman: mod6, nuke
the empty dirs, have
the build script or makefile create
them when it needs
them?
mod6: <+mod6> so... yah, a bash script or removal by hand. would be fine i'd
think. but now i gotta
test it a bit harder. if we leave empty directories in
there, im worred
that patch might come along at a later
time and be helpful again, removing
those object output diretories. << so if i do remove
them by hand, have
to ensure
that
these empty dirs wont get nuked later on accident
assbot: Logged on 19-07-2015 18:34:53; mod6: but now I'm scared
that even if i /do/ remove
them by hand,
they might get accidentially pruned by a downstream patch (later in
time) causing
the makefile
to puke.
mod6: <+punkman> mod6: ben reminded me
to add a patch
that removes
the 5 .gitignore files. << I dunno why patch was needed for
this, just remove
them manually in next release << yeah, i mentioned
that after
the fact lastnight. but was discussed here:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-07-2015#1206370 <<
this makes sense.
☝︎ Naphex: that cam on stick
thing
punkman: optically pumped repeaters?
that sounds interesting
punkman: guess it's cheaper
than digging out shitty cables and replacing
them
punkman: I have never seen any such
thing in europe, perhaps
they hide
them
punkman: seems expensive
to maintain
punkman: do
they have liquid nitrogen in other US cities?
phf: i
think maybe getblocks already works like "get block N" where n is block height. client sends out his
top block on a chain, and server responds with a sequences (?) of blocks from
then on
punkman: asciilifeform: I don't really have a
theory. are we sure
that nuked orphanage can't cause more wedges?
punkman: mod6: ben reminded me
to add a patch
that removes
the 5 .gitignore files. << I dunno why patch was needed for
this, just remove
them manually in next release
assbot: Logged on 02-05-2014 21:23:21; asciilifeform: instead,
there are
tanks of co2 chained
to poles here and
there
ag3nt_zer0: am i supposed
to enter
the entire
text file, including ---Begin Public Key Block----, or just
the string of shit? sorry don't know
the
technical
term...
phf: at which point do you stop doing get block # and switch back
to current sync process? or never?
ag3nt_zer0: I am
trying
to enter my public key at nosuchlabs.com but am getting an internal server error
phf: well,
that's certainly a way
to cut gordian knot
phf: where N is
the hash or
the height?
decimation: I suppose
the serving node still has some idea of what block N is
decimation: phf you are
thinking 'give me block #N'?
phf: asciilifeform: of course
the easiest option is
to add a new network command,
that does a sane request for initial block chain parts, but i
think it can still be done within
the framework of current sync model
decimation: heh. I admit part of me wants
to journey
to
the falkland islands
to see
the gentoos
decimation: asciilifeform: was
that
taken at a zoo?
decimation: even in
the fiat world, actual people
transmitting actual money would expect
to pay
decimation: yeah, it's a fair point.
that point has been made
decimation: jurov: I was envision
the miners paying for your caches, on
the assumption
that most folks won't want
to pay a
third party
to clearn bitcoin