asciilifeform: maybe deluge, maybe not, but imho worth labeling it in separate bottle.

asciilifeform: the outputs from phf's box.

asciilifeform: phf: you will test using your c101pa. and so you will need the debug snake, i will need to put the output of sysinfo , ver , brd , etc cr50 console commands into the statement. ☟︎

asciilifeform: also worx, but this is easier to keep track of if folx want to donate to the pot etc

asciilifeform: phf: the way i'm thinking of doing it: i'ma write up and sign a statement describing the competition; you will create a special-occasion key, e.g. 'cr50contest', rate it e.g. +1 cr50 , and i will drop a coin into it.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2018/06/apple-signing-api-used-to-bypass-third-party-anti-malware-tools/#comment-115866

asciilifeform: phf: do you have now with what to referee ? if i start the contest today, and entry is mailed in, can you test ?

asciilifeform: !!v 93034C3788CC362FD06EF9824B149C73A8C1B0B6EDAA9F1773BB30E80855097D

asciilifeform: !!rate cnomad 1 says, he's a reverser.

asciilifeform: arse-mouth hose, wainot.

asciilifeform: ( well, it + sov gas mask )

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: the great outdoor world under the sun makes an ok fumehood..

asciilifeform: cnomad: board itself is ~fiddybux on ebay

asciilifeform: cnomad: it's 300bux or so

asciilifeform: douchebag: can start with http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2433 .

asciilifeform: douchebag: you have some reading to catch up on.

asciilifeform: and forfuckssake yes they're locked. what didja think the thread were about, douchebag ?

asciilifeform: ( unlocking 'rma open' counts as a troo break. )

asciilifeform: incl. what happens re 'rma open'.

asciilifeform: douchebag: if you were to read my articles, and past 48 hrs of thread, you would already know this.

asciilifeform: ( src confirms this )

asciilifeform: i put the spi bootrom in the pic, to make clear the fact that it is connected ~through~ cr50

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how big margin do you want ?

asciilifeform: but will strip down the box again ( gotta pull out mb and heat sinks etc ) and make a bigger, later this wk

asciilifeform: currently best i have is http://www.loper-os.org/pub/c101pa/h1.jpg

asciilifeform: it can be replaced with ~50 line thing.

asciilifeform: i'd junk google's crapola fw regardless, even if we break cr50

asciilifeform: kbd, ps, etc

asciilifeform: right.

asciilifeform: however it is not known presently whether one exists.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if i could find a fpga that sits down pad-for-pad, it becomes a $10 problem.

asciilifeform: ( may even be, for all i know, literally a product of altera hardcopy )

asciilifeform: a la altera's 'hardcopy'

asciilifeform: douchebag: ~in~ fpga. but not an off-the-shelf one, but with LUT filling in mask rom.

asciilifeform: lel

asciilifeform: possibly yer friend is thinking of refrigerator...

asciilifeform: douchebag: i'm not aware of a component known by name of 'motor compressor' anywhere in or near subj

asciilifeform: !!up cnomad

asciilifeform: does he think subj is a refrigerator ? or wat

asciilifeform: douchebag: waiwat

asciilifeform: aha, in so far as i can tell they did a fairly clean job.

asciilifeform: so no trace of it on the prod chip.

asciilifeform: factory edition of the chip had a loader that overwrites self via spi

asciilifeform: test jig was simply a variant of the stock fw, and it gets rewritten by the 'prod' fw prior to retail sale.

asciilifeform: it's on-die.

asciilifeform: cut lol

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw i tracked down their factory test jig src. it was in their shithub, 'removed' in october 19

asciilifeform: has thermometer, etc.

asciilifeform: and in so far as i can tell, thing's a pinball machine, designed to lock up on first sign of glitching

asciilifeform: recall, a cure that requires individual decapping of each patient, is worth ~0.

asciilifeform: otherwise it's a purely c-machine exploitation problem

asciilifeform: the only on-chip secret that'd make a diff, is if there is an iron backdoor left in fpga

asciilifeform: douchebag: it isn't clear that heavy equipment is of any help. but if talented folx can be led to take an interest, by all means bring'em

asciilifeform: ( and fwiw it's news to me, that any of them live here, nobody lives here if they can reasonably help it )

asciilifeform: you must have asciilifeform confused with somebody else, the dc mircea_popescu is three doors down

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: and, as mircea_popescu correctly points out, 'would like' never broke any doors.

asciilifeform: it isn't even wholly about the machines, from asciilifeform's pov, asciilifeform would like to see the enemy bleed some, hear the laments , see the mules driven before him, etc ☟︎

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: ox clears minefield quite well!111

asciilifeform: but i'd like to see this one, cleared.

asciilifeform: i mean this is one possible approach, when encountering a mine field that the current republicans + slavegurlz can't clear, to say 'eh it dun need clearing'

asciilifeform: afaik that's all.

asciilifeform: nobody has yet met a martian.

asciilifeform: it's a 'seti'.

asciilifeform: ( i have no particular reason to think it, and more or less agree with mircea_popescu re why )

asciilifeform: right but hypothetical is that something remains when you take these away.

asciilifeform: ( so paradoxically a 1btc prize imho could attract moar players than 10, even )

asciilifeform: sometimes there is problem tho, where the prospective players don't believe in the factuality of the prize

asciilifeform: i believe it.

asciilifeform: sure.

asciilifeform: any longer, and the target is likely to move.

asciilifeform: i'd start with giving the players , say , six weeks.

asciilifeform: nao if phf or other l1 is willing to referee, we can hold the game. ( imho asciilifeform does not fit for role of referee. )

asciilifeform: i expect exactly same thing.

asciilifeform: these were purchased, in exactly the manner contemplated.

asciilifeform: aaand they had orig schems, chip layouts, etc. for various 'embargo' products. some of which can still be seen today, e.g. those calcs.

asciilifeform: i can't speak authoritatively, but according to thirdhand folx, they had the usg naval keys for 20 yrs straight

asciilifeform: sure but what's a reddit worth.

asciilifeform: why not for us.

asciilifeform: all i got is historical examples, buying keys worked for kgb and gru

asciilifeform: maybe not best example, i have nfi whether d00d has the spark of life or not

asciilifeform: let me guess, auditing www crapola to make the rent ?

asciilifeform: whatcha doing these days, douchebag ?

asciilifeform: well, let's take douchebag

asciilifeform: for players ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hypothetically it'd be a contest with very simple mechanical judgement of winner. but i can picture why no one might want to be the referee.

asciilifeform: cnomad: aite

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: perfectly good photo of d00d with pen in his arse !111

asciilifeform: cnomad: i dun suppose you have anything to add to this thread ?

asciilifeform: !!up cnomad

asciilifeform: well currently i'm out of ideas in re cr50; thought i'd try the 1 tool in the box i haven't unsheathed.

asciilifeform: but i can see the 'tits' angle.

asciilifeform: notion was to pay for completed work

asciilifeform: 'hm, maybe today is when the martians answer'

asciilifeform: this is sorta like 'search for extraterrestrial intelligence'

asciilifeform: what can i say, this is probably 100% true.

asciilifeform: this aside, they ~are~ fuckedinthehead in the manner mircea_popescu describes. just, it would not make much diff for us to have'em, in this case.

asciilifeform: understand, a die photo would do me ~0 good re cr50.