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mod6: I'll try to find a spot to try this thing out in the next day or two.. maybe you can walk me through some of the stuff.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-30 21:38 esthlos: jawbone2: my 2cents: get a linode with a static ip for $5/mo. for a dynamic dns, run a cron sending your local ip to the linode, and a cron to edit your dns record accordingly on the remote. for the web server, either preroute remote's 80 to some local port, or just run it on non-80
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-30#1761220 << i think ~everyone in a "wanna run a node mostly to learn" demo is doing either that, amazon or else more obscure similaria (ohv, whatever) ☝︎
asciilifeform: bus is a poverty artifact. and i will add that , most hilariously, recent items like pcie are actually implemented as ports, physically! but on the idjit x86 end EMULATE behaviour of bus !!
mircea_popescu: "we didn't know how you wanted your house laid out so we put this sqm in the middle that has to be traversed FOR EVERYTHING! hope you enjoy all the copping a titfeel in your own god damned house"
mircea_popescu: whatever the fuck but this pointlessly self-crit of a spurious bottleneck.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sgi had a crossbar, it aint an unheard-of thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, have dedicated fucking lines. all this "oh, we have nfi what will hang off this cpu" pretense is 1980s idiocy. WE FUCKING KNOW. have dedicated netbridge ; have or not have dedicated video bridge -- YOU KNOW if you're putting or not puting a fucking vidcard in there but you don't know whether you need a bus for it or not ? gimme a fucken break!
mircea_popescu: yeah. you were all "well, sorry it's broken" last month or w/e, but realise -- back when it was written it was ahead of the v as a concept. that it meanwhile become broken is merely because the tide raised ; but the tide raised because, in no small part, it existed.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 you realise this, your original v actually worked out in practice as major pivot improving v significantly from notion to item. << thanks. it's been great to see it come to life. it's a work in progress :]
trinque recalls the sad thread where it was explained to him how the thing's a pile of recursive busses keistered in keisters
asciilifeform: because driver under idjit x86 iron is a massive ball of ???, none of which typically generalizes to ANY other item
mircea_popescu: a "module" is a braindamaged half-way implementation of a compiled configfile.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they were forced mistake, via x86ism . without something like modules, you get to pick b/w a) kernel that runs on ONE box, and that's until you change a card b) a 500MB liquishit pot
trinque: asciilifeform: worth a thread maybe, but I loathe the one-kernel-for-them all approach; I don't even ship my kernels with module loading enabled
mircea_popescu: twice a decade, by the looks of it.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-30 20:14 jawbone2: My name is Jim Weaver I live in Florida. I do not keep a blog yet. That is coming with my webserver project
trinque: doesn't matter; we'll need a set of known-good kernel configs anyway
a111: Logged on 2017-12-28 14:20 mircea_popescu: nah. cleverness in humans is simply equivalent of what drunks call "a moment of lucidity", ie, stopped being indescribably fucking stupid for one god damned moment.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-30 20:11 ben_vulpes: a useful patch for folks in jawbone2 's position would update the results of getinfo to indicate whether trb considered a connection 'inbound' or 'outbound' so that you could determine if your dyndns hacks were working
mircea_popescu: "very strict" : if i can't lean on them to make a proper genesis, also just as good as not existing
asciilifeform: a number of items in gentoo ports ~did~ have pgp sigs. but none of anybody in my l2 (or 3, or afaik even 4 )
mircea_popescu: but in shorthand practical terms, if they don't have a genesis we can patch upon, they don't exist.
mircea_popescu: esthlos in a word, because none of the gerard beekmans matthre burgess bruce dubbs etc are known to us / have a !!key and so on
trinque: that's not a thing so much as a "yes you could be a human build system"
trinque was prompted to finish the reproductive gentoo when he went to build a box like always, found the shitgnomes had eroded earth from under his build system
mircea_popescu: i guess it's a decent spring item.
asciilifeform: because sh is not a language.
mircea_popescu: i suppose once phf delivers new v, we shall be looking for a hero to reportage.
asciilifeform: can't build a gnat without a... gnat. period
mircea_popescu: he's got a joysdick tho
asciilifeform: binaryturd dists always were a fraud in that sense
asciilifeform: trinque: then it's a go...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you're familiar with the dependency problem, yes ? the statement here is that dependency problem for debian is SO BAD you can't actually produce a meaningful packaging of useful debian within finite space.
asciilifeform: trinque: i still haven't attempted musltronic gentoo. ( and have nfi whether it could be used on a workstation, say -- does emacs run ? what dies ? )
trinque: the mere act of producing a booting gentoo is trivial; what we need is a genesis of a ports tree merged between the musl overlay and a particular vintage of portage.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 02:53 trinque: tangentially yet again, I'd really like a vtron to put in this here cuntoo.
mircea_popescu: at some point we (i mean s.mg) attempted to build a debian archive.
mircea_popescu: but from what i gather a half dozen people have pills for it in various states of undress.
mod6: what do we need to do to get started with cuntoo. we ought to make a list.
mircea_popescu: yo, register a key so you can self-voice.
mircea_popescu: lemme rephrase. ima have this done eventually, just not a priority rightnao.
asciilifeform: it's the gsm carriers who have , as a rule, port fascism
a111: Logged on 2017-12-30 22:22 hanbot: a se taie cineva intr-o varza?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-30 19:59 ben_vulpes: but you say that "i have the hardware", so use that hardware. boot a bitcoin node on it and don't worry about port 80.
mircea_popescu: this is a problem that will recur
mircea_popescu: being large, self centered and insensate, like a really annoying fat older woman ? vaca. (cow). but as a superlative, "vaca cu cabina", ie, cow with a booth.
mircea_popescu: for instance : to be utterly clueless, entirely unprepared, ineffectual and worthless -- such as for an exam of some kind, "a fi tufa", ie, "being a bush".
hanbot: a se taie cineva intr-o varza? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: HOWEVER, "to make a cabbage out of things" very much still in use
asciilifeform: i.e. it readily and without explanation invokes image of a shambles
asciilifeform: to round off thread -- asciilifeform very much enjoying rewriting ( and it is , yes , a total rewrite ) ffa ☟︎
asciilifeform: aaa as in 'them peons dun count for half a shit'
asciilifeform: the latter a not wholly false cognate -- we have погрешность , i.e. instrument error , and from the slavonic root грех , i.e. sin
mircea_popescu: !A .F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0.0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F0F*#[-]#
mircea_popescu: !A .FEDCBA0.FEDCBA0*#[-]#
asciilifeform: ^ observe that this is a correct 512bit product
asciilifeform: !A .FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF*##
asciilifeform: !A .A.3\#[,]#
asciilifeform: !A .A.3\##
mircea_popescu: ideally short of a list of all 256 bit operations.
asciilifeform: !A .2.2*##
mircea_popescu: what is in principle acceptable as a proof that division works ?
mircea_popescu: !A .FA55F3F5459A9E799FD0913737C3FCBE74C01A9C3CE54F80083E16F27091F65F.0\#
a111: Logged on 2017-12-30 19:55 ben_vulpes: divorce these concerns, run a bitcoin node on bitcoin node hardware, and a webserver elsewhere
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-30#1761182 << eh, if he's looking for a "vpn" rather than renting a box, there's no divorcing on the table. gotta buy a box before you can buy two boxes. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-30 19:53 jawbone2: I would like to run the bitcoin node and a small webserver. My ISP would require a much more expensive business account to open port 80. A VPN with a static IP on the other end would allow me to get around this limitation.
esthlos: jawbone2: my 2cents: get a linode with a static ip for $5/mo. for a dynamic dns, run a cron sending your local ip to the linode, and a cron to edit your dns record accordingly on the remote. for the web server, either preroute remote's 80 to some local port, or just run it on non-80 ☟︎
jawbone2: Indeed you too, Ben. I've been reading Trilema the blog for a long while and lurking here for a little while. This is an undiscovered country.
jawbone2: My name is Jim Weaver I live in Florida. I do not keep a blog yet. That is coming with my webserver project ☟︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: btw, who are you? do you keep a blog anywhere?
ben_vulpes: jawbone2: i don't purge ratings on much more than a once-every-other-quarter basis, so you've got some time
jawbone2: Indeed I shall. Thank you. Quick question do I now have a rating so I can voice myself in the future or is the rating only temporary.
ben_vulpes: a useful patch for folks in jawbone2 's position would update the results of getinfo to indicate whether trb considered a connection 'inbound' or 'outbound' so that you could determine if your dyndns hacks were working ☟︎
jawbone2: If I used Dynamic DNS to get a static IP would that get around this problem?
ben_vulpes: jawbone2: yes, if you are so unlucky as to only have access to a dynamic ip, you must reboot your node with a new ip in myip lest ye 'eat' and now 'plough'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: and a node that cannot be externally connected to is an eater, not a plower
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if yer ip moves, yer node becomes unconnectable-to ( and will merrily carry on broadcasting old ip to others as a seed)
jawbone2: I see. The instructions I have assume a static IP address. I can do incoming connections just not on port 80.
ben_vulpes: afaik you don't even need to be able to do incoming connections, although you are a leech upon the network if you don't.
ben_vulpes: shouldn't need a permanent IP to run a node. it's a good thing, and a requirement for running a srsbsns anything, but you can drop connections and reconnect to the bitcoin network regularly without much hassle.
jawbone2: Got it. Then I can just use Dynamic DNS to give me a permanent IP address right?
ben_vulpes: but you say that "i have the hardware", so use that hardware. boot a bitcoin node on it and don't worry about port 80. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: divorce these concerns, run a bitcoin node on bitcoin node hardware, and a webserver elsewhere ☟︎
jawbone2: I would like to run the bitcoin node and a small webserver. My ISP would require a much more expensive business account to open port 80. A VPN with a static IP on the other end would allow me to get around this limitation. ☟︎
jawbone2: I would like to set up a full republican node. I have the hardware and the instructions from the bitcoin foundation are pretty clear. I would like to know if you have any recommendations for a VPN service with port forwarding of course.
jawbone2: It is a pleasure to finally be speaking here.
ben_vulpes: lending voice not yet so fraught as to be a formal introduction
diana_coman: also: give people a bit of rope to hang themselves with, what; if any sort of constraint makes sense it might be to ask them to register a key first *before* they get voice
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/a-gift-of-memory/ << Trilema - A gift of memory
mircea_popescu shall drop https://bananabo.xyz/ here. installgentoo.com runs an irc server apparently ; and you could get mysqldbs and a real gnu/linux shell!
phf: maybe he means why freenode when you're going to have a gatekeeper?
ben_vulpes: is there a point to that sort of spam that i don't understand?
mircea_popescu: reminds me of that joke, with the guy trying to get a loan back
mircea_popescu: hey, i lived through a few years of 12 yo sandokans.
phf: the matrix had a particularly bad fallout in moscow. i mean americans got off easy with "i'll show you the truth blue pill/red pill". i've lived through 3 years of 8 year old "neos"!
mircea_popescu: phf you know that show is apparently very popular with 60yos flattering themselves with "a technical facility" or w/e, clued-in by its own lights crowd?
phf: like i'm that russian guy in a smoked out room on a tiny x60 "da. poyehali!"
mod6: hack urself a gibson yoh
mod6: im about to hit the dumpswitch here too... trying to give it a chance.