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mircea_popescu: i
think it's been perverted in
the evil clutches of ustardism
tho.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a hackathon is actually a brilliant idea :
take a bunch of kids with cs airs, strip
them naked, chain
them
to desks and let
them come out once
they did something worthwhile.
trinque: and if feeling vaguely shitty and weak visuals are your
thing,
they're great!
cazalla: trinque, i
think i remembe
that one and something about soaking
them
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they can click.
trinque: I chewed some baby woodrose seeds one
time, was pretty weird
punkman: "The vulnerability in Microsoft Font Driver could allow remote code execution if a user opens a specially crafted document or visits an untrusted webpage
that contains embedded OpenType fonts. "
cazalla: trinque, preddy sure nut meg was in some cook book alongside banana skins ( i
tried both afterall)
mircea_popescu: "the sample is small and not much
to be said" is after all statistical analysis, perfectly adequate for a sample
that is small and not much
to be said.
mircea_popescu: im not looking for anything
too elaborate. do a formal "here's everything" bit and i'll call it good.
mats: mircea_popescu: i can build a
table for 4 (total score, number of cases), but what sort of statistical data are you looking for?
the set is small and idk how you'd judge
the quality of
the data
trinque: heh, sure, and his "dose" was 5
teaspoons
mircea_popescu: o no wait, it was "careful with
that axe, eugene" not "trinque, don't forget
the nutmeg".
trinque: kid was scared
to smoke weed,
though
trinque: yeah, I
think
that's where he got it
trinque: my (former) buddy in middle school
tried
to smoke
the banana peels
mircea_popescu: "the latest dangerous fad
to sweep our nation's junior high scene since
that faux story about fermented shit we came up with out of nowhere."
mircea_popescu: incidentally : someone should start an "abortion club"
trollage/moral panic. whereby you convince "the media"
that
the latest fad among
teenagers is abortion club. "you gotta have one
to be someone!"
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel sure, but
there's meetup of young people ie
team + cheerleaders on
the bus back from game away ; and
then
there's
the meetup of young people ie, jay explains
to preteens what
the clit is.
phf: gabriel_laddel: original meaning is "remote
team briefly works face
to face". i
think hackathons without shared context and common goal are fundamentally misguided
mircea_popescu: for sure can't close it with all
the work you put into it.
mats: mircea_popescu: how long do you plan
to keep
the legal research project open?
trinque: sure,
throw competent people into a room, give 'em
toys, sounds great
gabriel_laddel: IMHO, hackathons are at
their core a good
thing - all implementations
thus far have been
terrible.
gabriel_laddel: "there's
this one neat
trick
they don't want you
to know after all " << hahaha
phf: asciilifeform: btw hackthons used
to be face
to face development sessions by free software
teams, when
they had opportunity
to all congregate at some location. coined afair by
theo, but went
the same way as "open" and such
gernika: Which, hey - would good if
that happened more. Sadly
the CEO's own idea
turned out
to suck and
the startup went out of business.
phf: that's an old school notion,
trickster as a hero and all
that, but i don't
think
this is
that.
these people are not even hustlers, i don't
think
there's any awareness
there.
gernika: CEO
told our
team ours sucked.
gernika: There was one hackathon which, at
the
time I hated, but in retrospect had some redeeming value
to it. People formed
their own
teams and worked on
their own ideas and at
the end,
the CEO judged
the results.
trinque: the greatest
thing you can be is a 20 year old billionaire
that blasted off doing something pedestrian
trinque: and it surely isn't competent people working hard, anything but
that
trinque: there's
this one neat
trick
they don't want you
to know after all
trinque: phf: seems
to come from an american notion
that you get ahead by pulling one over on everyone else
trinque: clearly
the only
thing preventing idiocracy is
that it could never get
that far
phf: trinque: i was at one "interview" with a guy with zero programmer experience, straight from "you can do anything!" video, we're
talking "dropped out of art degree
to become a waiter, but hours were brutal, so i want
to become a programmer"
trinque: all of
these people are useless
gernika: At one such hackathon, employees were encouraged
to spend
the night in
the office.
trinque: gernika: yeah,
the one where
they fucked up project management so you're gonna ship
this weekend by god!
trinque: phf: like
this was gonna get some bum off
the street, making rails sites?
gernika: trinque
that
type of hackathon is innocuous compared
to mandated hackathons at work.
trinque: the concept was obviously shat by marketing people who believed in
the myth of "the weekend app
that made a million bezzlars"
phf: we had a better
thing
than hackathon. a small group of junior developers were
tasked with designing a curriculum and writing
tutorials for
training people with zero computer skills
to become rails developers.
to, i shit you not, "help disadvantaged peoples".
trinque: and expect
them
to ... not sure what
trinque: you get pizza and beer and invite shmoes off
the street
to come "hack"
phf: it
took me a while
to even realize
that
the majority of employees had less
then 3 years of programming experience, majority of managers had no software project experiences, etc. i didn't really understand until experiencing it first hand,
that a large software company can be so utterly dysfunctional. and yet "we're all winners!"
phf: gernika: i didn't have
to endure much, except shortage of competent underlings, but i witnessed cto organizing hackathon for other
teams, and it was painful. blind leading
the blind
gernika: phf Did you have
to endure a hackathon?
phf: ceo would regularly send out "vote for us as
the best place
to work in
the city", "vote for me as
the best ceo"
phf: i worked for one such company last year, joined out of curiousity, but stayed
to finish projects i was responsible for.
the amount of dysfunctional behavior was staggering.
trinque tosses "passionate" on
the american pyre
trinque: can't just do your job; you have
to be drunk on whatever half-assed propaganda
they came up with
gernika: That's
the reason I can't work as a startup employee anymore:
they want you
to *believe*
trinque: phf: yeah,
these companies practically force
their employees
to
take part in it
phf: ties nicely with
that
tlp article about "the real me"
phf: <mircea_popescu> fascinating what derps actually sell
themselves into. gawker editorial actually
thinks it's more
than a branded chicken coop << from a limited experience,
that seems like a sop in certain kind of sillicon-valley inspired u.s. company. a combination of "you can do anything!" with worst sort of delusions of grandeur.