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mod6: and.. i don't wanna be the only one who can write tests for this thing :}
mod6: well, i agree. i honestly like perl better, but that's maybe because I've been doing small things in it for 15 years.
trinque: eh is python really better than perl?
mod6: again hopefully someone in the future can learn from what I'm doing here and take this over in python.
mod6: this one shows that we can connect with -connect & -myip, sleep for a bit, check connection count, shutdown bitcoind, then sleep a bit more (in case we restart bitcoind on the next test, we wanna allow some time for the DB to sync etc.)
mod6: here's another sample with another more advanced test automated: http://dpaste.com/15BA2H1.txt
mod6: my other instance is connected to the same node, and still syncing, but much further down the chain: height=215394
mod6: asciilifeform: yeah, confirm that on ur one node i'm wedged at 365441 ☟︎
trinque: well that and seen
trinque: mod6: what does that "lasttry" indicate?
asciilifeform: the days of plaintext packets sailing around the world unmolested are not merely numbered - but long gone. ☟︎
asciilifeform: and in case anyone has forgotten, this is not a problem limited to goatfuckistans like usa, but appears to exist in backbone
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell danielpbarron pete_dushenski http://www.openbsd.org/papers/eurobsdcon2014-octeon_dsr500.pdf
asciilifeform: clearly-enumerated byte limit in the contract, but otherwise open-eneded
BingoBoingo: Is this corenetworks?
trinque: I'm reminded of comcast telling me yesterday that "that port 25, that's not yours"
asciilifeform: phf: they never cared re: bittorrent
asciilifeform: no reason for a threadbare american hoster to be in on the mega-secret
asciilifeform: could just as easily be an upstream thing
asciilifeform: anyway if this carries on, i will be cancelling my contract with that hoster
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: one of those is incitatus
asciilifeform: phf: this particular box is hosted in northeast usa
BingoBoingo: Peerinfo for two s.nsa nodes for comparison http://dpaste.com/2SR9H1M.txt
asciilifeform cannot be bothered to read any more phoundation code
phf: must be <--> this many hops away from fort meade to ride
asciilifeform: (perhaps it assigns -1 to nodes which did not answer pings.)
asciilifeform: otherwise this could easily be the peculiar behaviour of BingoBoingo's phoundation node
asciilifeform: need the packetz
BingoBoingo: http://dpaste.com/0N2JC68.txt No packets, just the peer info.
asciilifeform: esp. of this '-1' business.
asciilifeform: if this is a 'cosmic ray', then i fart monkeys.
asciilifeform: as if no one were bothering to transmit
asciilifeform: when this was happening to mircea_popescu's node, all i found was sockets opening and then standing entirely still
asciilifeform: also, anyone who has the time, try a packet capture
phf: asciilifeform: well, that last burst is me netcat'ing you repeatedly
assbot: Logged on 20-07-2015 00:44:24; mircea_popescu: you seriously proposing the internet just goes away ?
asciilifeform: it was build ~deliberately~ bitwise-identical to a properly-functioning node hosted elsewhere.
asciilifeform: this has been going on, punctuated with occasional bursts of activity, since it was switched on this morning.
asciilifeform: go ahead, try to connect.
asciilifeform: because of - apparently - usg diddling the pipes.
asciilifeform: which isn't synced and doesn't threaten to any time soon
asciilifeform: a very sad therealbitcoin node
asciilifeform: this was not the plan, but...
trinque puts it in the queue
asciilifeform: chesterton already thought of it!
asciilifeform: trinque: 'the man who was thursday'
trinque: what will they think of next
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2014 22:27:18; asciilifeform: the 'a) wanna buy strela? b) fuck off c) really, dontcha? b) ok sure c) off to jail' thing has been going so long that it doesn't even make national news every time now.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm not so sure. Perhaps Walmart was closed or had no scooty puffs for him to ride?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'bermuda triangle of packets' carries on
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that fella must've run off from a circus ?
trinque: oh, I just go for a walk for that
BingoBoingo: It is, but one has to keep the hateorade full somehow.
hanbot: BingoBoingo isn't it...disadvantageous to be triggerable by something so...abundant? i bet people sensitive to anorexics have a much easier time
BingoBoingo: Why did they have to burn crosses?
cazalla: BingoBoingo, why ya got all these links to such images?
BingoBoingo: Maximally triggered https://i.imgur.com/fVzsFLt.jpg
BingoBoingo: More triggered https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/21/395e55a4ba1859a676fb401e6dc9e5d9.jpg
trinque: that's just cause the food never makes it to the table
trinque: and since "this *doesn't* happen to america" and it can never be forgotten, we will pick at the wound until it kills us
trinque: the thing's indelliby there, forever
trinque: there was no chance the whole thing wouldn't be caught by every camera in miles
trinque: all that to say we were hit right in the heel
trinque: I expect a general concept of "being terrorised" to develop which is some descendent of being "triggered" and so on
trinque: you have a situation where everything generates more fear, and so long as people believe the govts role is to remove anything feared, it'll proceed further in the same direction
trinque: and the precariousness of baseless narcissism, being that it could be knocked over by reality at any moment
nubbins`: for those of you who are interested in such things: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1128004.0
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208811 << i am looking forward to the fallout from this :D << heheh. well, with any luck it might help us this time around. my hope is that some python hero will pick up the torch and take this thing forward next time around. ☝︎
trinque: the attack created the atmosphere of "something must be done"
trinque: the things people joke about show that
trinque: everyone here knows on some level they could kick the door in at any moment
trinque: hanbot: some interaction between the subconscious effect of even having a vast american govt at all...
hanbot: trinque what's that, ostrichprocess?
hanbot: and wd on that front BingoBoingo!
trinque: I begin to see how there's a runaway social process here.
BingoBoingo: The ashley madison thing is big, you wrote a better story. My quick piece was just to get something in as soon as possible considering our... uptime issues.
trinque: you know that Bin Laden guy really hit it outta the park.
BingoBoingo: hanbot: I gave it the redundancy edit by linking the earlier piece
hanbot: ah BingoBoingo, didn't catch your earlier piece. think mine needs a redundancy edit?
trinque: isn't this sort of like saying common lisp is impossible, after all, the machine only implements syslisp?
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/07/alm-ceo-cries-terrorism-after-ashley-madison-hack/ and DDos This https://archive.is/i7XvH << hanbot ☟︎
trinque: https://code.google.com/p/libconcurrency << uses jmp and stack-fiddling magic, doesn't appear to have any asm
trinque: actually that one uses asm
assbot: Delimited continuations for C/C++ | Lambda the Ultimate ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrQ9N9 )
trinque: perhaps not as efficiently as someone thinking about hardware wants
Adlai: doesn't mean that reality didn't exist in the terim
Adlai: gradually modern "languages" (glorified syntax processors) are waking up to the reality recognized decades ago
Adlai: bedrock my ass, the bedrock is assembly language on a 2(or more)-core system... what shapes possibilities is the crappy foundation sunk into the quicksand sludge on top of the rock
decimation: in other words, the bedrock is shaping 'what is possible' ☟︎
decimation: ... any other, one must be the caller and the other must be the callee. So if you want to write portable code, this technique is at least as impractical as the Unix pipe solution. "
decimation: ... concept completely. Stop thinking of one process as the caller and the other as the callee, and start thinking of them as cooperating equals. ... This is very nice in theory, but in practice you can only do it in assembly language, because no commonly used high level language supports the coroutine call primitive. Languages like C depend utterly on their stack-based structure, so whenever control passes from any function to ...
decimation: also some amusing reading: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/coroutines.html " One of the particular problems that often comes up is this: if you have a piece of code producing data, and another piece of code consuming it, which should be the caller and which should be the callee? ... In The Art of Computer Programming, Donald Knuth presents a solution to this sort of problem. His answer is to throw away the stack ...
decimation: asciilifeform: did you already have those datasheets I linked last night?
ascii_field: ^^^ anyone who has time to carry on in this pattern, is encouraged.
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu https://github.com/cyco << >> http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/C214323FE8F5A745404185908E2CFAB4D18087093B71CDBC40C01FA883C060D4
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.whoismind.com/email/bXM-schmidt-system.de.html << >> http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B3A2E526E50140EE75C270884290DB8270F202BA7E2382F7F20D735D62E0104E
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.phylomemetic-tree.de/spackeria/daily/%23spackeria.03-24.log << http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B412BD191BF10DAB6AAB6A8779A3F08D31AC5E3FB748DDBFB1DB18CDF05B6BEF
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu can haz a pcap dump of the ddos packets plz ?
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell mircea_popescu Can we get that window to post and archive soon?
ascii_field: qntra points to a very quick-loading 404 now