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asciilifeform: as for that one, you could, conceivably, look at sequence numbers and learn when a severely broken tcp/ip stack is in use
mircea_popescu: really, they beat nmap, check em out.
mircea_popescu: i was describing the "especially in settings where NMap probes are blocked, too slow, unreliable" bs.
asciilifeform: i was describing the web server in asm item
mircea_popescu: reads exactly like a sophomore paper to me
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the part where they make wildly improbable claims (ex : purely passive traffic fingerprinting mechanisms to identify the players behind any incidental TCP/IP communications (often as little as a single normal SYN) without interfering in any way.) but then mishmashingly backtrack on it (this release candidate still has a relatively small database of fingerprints) and so on
asciilifeform: used to be a fairly common thing
mircea_popescu: be that as it may, "this is a magical brothel where the girls extend ectoplasm cunts and satisfactorily reach your very soul. wanna see it in action ? sure, here : ***not working atm***".
mircea_popescu: i dunno, to me it looks perfectly not credible, but then again i'm a toxic asshole.
punkman: mircea_popescu: looks credible, haven't tried it yet though
asciilifeform: punkman: it was the only published src iirc
punkman: asciilifeform: TLS stuff is in that HeavyThing library
mircea_popescu: Not all capabilities of p0f can be showcased here, and as noted, this release candidate still has a relatively small database of fingerprints. That said, here's the most recent positive match p0f has for your IP:
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> which is to say, from their point of view, they will always succeed. << ahaha apt.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> gabriel_laddel has the authority to hire subcontractors just like this ? << maybe would just like to have it.
asciilifeform: unfortunately i do not at the moment have the time for a closer look, currently boiling in a cauldron of wurk
asciilifeform: i could be mistaken. (because i also did not find where the hell it does it)
asciilifeform briefly flipped through the 'rwasa' published code, certain of finding that it links openssl, but - it told the truth; did not do so; has own rsa. can't say much else
mircea_popescu: so /me goes to investigate this kingdom of loathing mud thingee. wikipedia claims 150k players playing regularly. /me has never seen > 500 players logged in. /me is confused. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i guess they finally squeezed it out.
mircea_popescu: i was using html5. which they never really supported because ads.
BingoBoingo: Not yet. Now that I've got the right Crystal Space got to take the time to compile it. Still, Nvidia's CS toolkit doesn't exist on this platform so that should be fun to bang the head against until crystalspace 2.2 removes that dependency
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i vaguely recall hearing that they were finally abolishing 'flash' there
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel youtube decided to do some "upgrade" or other and as a result it no longer works. sorry.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo btw, ever got eulora to run ?
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assbot: rwasa | 2 Ton Digital ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mvf9TU )
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: Compare: Symbolics demo reel 1989 ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4HXPJtym2Q ) to Pixar demo reel 1988 ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__3aAOBWW60 ) and note Symbolics wasn't a graphics company.
shinohai: Oh I know. Anything that measure up to the r/bitcoin status quo is automatically "trolling" or "toxic to the community".
gabriel_laddel: shinohai: in derpspeak, this is "toxic"
shinohai: I don't see mp as "toxic", he merely destroys the illusions people have of themselves and leaves them standing with the truth of what they are.
gabriel_laddel: (from the back of cltl2)
gabriel_laddel: "... a magnificent job. I have never seen a language description that is more complete or more precise, yet each chapter is throughly enjoyable and subtly witty. The book is absolutely indispensable for all serious LISP students and users; its high quality is a major reason why Common LISP is *the* LISP of the future" - Patrick Henry Winston
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: what, like trolling through CLHS?
ben_vulpes: (i happen to enjoy the amount of study that writing cl takes)
asciilifeform: in precisely the same way as mircea_popescu 'is toxic' to the derpunity
gabriel_laddel: Yep. Him and many others. One rubyist had a particularly entertaining one where he complained about Naggum (who had already passed) being "toxic for the community".
asciilifeform: iirc yegge already wrote that one
gabriel_laddel: I can't wait for the inevitable blog post about how "CL isn't really all that good" and "the language has serious problems and a lack of tooling"
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2015 22:16:44; ben_vulpes: the "async" cl webserver the nodebros are banging on about blocks the repl when instantiated in a cl-async 'event loop', unlike how hunchentoot starts a server and then returns on threaded sbcl.
asciilifeform: in the latter cases, respectively, it is an expected thing.
asciilifeform: at any rate, there is a lesson: the difference between ending up like this in cl and in, e.g., python, is sorta like the difference between being covered in own shit in civilian life, vs. inside an oubliette
ben_vulpes: heh like the "modern cl" thinger?
asciilifeform wonders why these folks took cl from the shelf, rather than something more 'komyoonitiful'
ben_vulpes: looks like braindamage, smells like braindamage, can't say as i care to dig further into it when there are food credits to scrape up elsewhere and the scraping to automate.
asciilifeform: wtf is the point?
asciilifeform: even then
ben_vulpes: i suspect that they're not using emacs, but rather doing the "compile, run" thing.
asciilifeform: what are they using for a runtime?! xlisp under msdos ?!!
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: well the cranks that turn the cranks need to be written, and then the machine that turns the meta-cranks built.
ben_vulpes: the "async" cl webserver the nodebros are banging on about blocks the repl when instantiated in a cl-async 'event loop', unlike how hunchentoot starts a server and then returns on threaded sbcl. ☟︎
asciilifeform: <ben_vulpes> cranks need turning, no avoiding that. << wtf is the point of a computer if not to avoid this ?
asciilifeform: which is to say, from their point of view, they will always succeed.
ben_vulpes: simply smells of node to me.
asciilifeform: derps can 'colonize cl' in precisely the same way redditards colonize bitcoin.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: No one ever gets called to extend a program's feature-set? Nonsense.
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: did you see the libuv folks are colonizing cl?
ben_vulpes: cranks need turning, no avoiding that.
ben_vulpes: it's the 'work' part you really object to, let's be honest here.
asciilifeform is aware of folks who hire for 'we don't care what you write it in', but shudders at the thought of 'cl work' - it could only result from an astonishingly gnarly pre-existing codebase
ben_vulpes: good way to minimize single points of failure.
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: i'd probably bite it off myself, simply because there isn't much by way of CL horsepower around the shop.
gabriel_laddel: I'm mentioning this because people say it's so goddamn hard to get CL work, which I have not found to be the case.
ben_vulpes: who are they to trust but him?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel has the authority to hire subcontractors just like this ?
ben_vulpes: "call this guy who knows thing about my codebase but probably can handle it"
ben_vulpes: or the bezzlequivalent. i ain't picky - food credits is food credits.
ben_vulpes: so long as they cough up ~.6 btc/hr, sure.
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asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: i can't resist asking - why would anybody want to be on that list for free ??
assbot: The surprisingly sad saga of the Oregon State Library Girl ... ( http://bit.ly/1KsjEeG )
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2015 02:55:08; trinque: motherfucker... I google this AWS issue I'm having, and find myself bitching about said problem here two months ago
gabriel_laddel: I've a list of programmers included in the "info" tab of the program I wrote for work. The idea being that if I"m not around and something goes wrong, they contact one of these people. Let me know if you want to be on that list.
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: trinque: one *could* do some tests on manardb to see if this strategy it is speedy enough for the problems you've got
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2015 19:11:55; trinque: I'm growing convinced that CLOS plus something intelligently mapping objects into and out of memory does everything I've ever called "database"
ben_vulpes: solrodar, asciilifeform: http://cascadianhacker.com/bitcoin/callgraph/ << the sexprs generate, the scripts run, the svg is nominally an svg (eg has piles of xml i don't care to sift through) but doesn't render anything through any tools I have on hand. ☟︎
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trinque: https://d262ilb51hltx0.cloudfront.net/fit/c/410/410/0*U9J3xqWnqSBO5ozP.jpg << the chucklefuck responsible
ben_vulpes: p-plz no trigger
trinque: and isn't this exactly what happens any time someone tries to make a "declarative" language
assbot: How we turned JSON into a full programming language — relevant stories — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1LK9t8q )
trinque: ben_vulpes: trigger warning https://medium.com/relevant-stories/rel-chapter-1-907ff616bf80
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2015 10:59:15; mircea_popescu: specifgically i will put asciilifeform, ben_vulpes and everyone else on notice to the following fact : if you don't effectually and effectively take delivery of these sorts of things, it's not that my 1 btc or w/e is wasted. it's thjat the remainder of my stash is wasted, because lo! i can not use it to direct activity. help me help you over here wouldja.
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2015 10:56:13; solrodar: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2015#1213044 << if you've managed to get clang to work, are you able to check my script?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2015#1213115 << mircea_popescu: solrodar got my message, knows where i am in derping along to testing his work. ☝︎
trinque: I'm growing convinced that CLOS plus something intelligently mapping objects into and out of memory does everything I've ever called "database" ☟︎
trinque: as it happens, I have those two books gabriel_laddel recommended on the way
trinque: in other news, I think the db project I've described was us inventing a shittier metaobject protocol in SQL
asciilifeform: wywialm: active in the sense that i'm not dead yet
wywialm: is LoperOS project active then?
asciilifeform: sorta like how a courageous man on a movie screen is not the same as actual hero
asciilifeform: very different thing.
wywialm: perhaps I misunderstood you, but I read that you plan to design a sane os and (in other blog posts) pointed to opengenera as an example of such system
trinque: openbsd dead yet? I just grew to like it, so I'm sure it must be
asciilifeform: (or perhaps a bsd variant thereof)
asciilifeform: not sure if b-a unix can be even in principle other than 'buildroot'.
mircea_popescu: but really, the official ba os is still an open ended question
mircea_popescu: i just said i used to use it. and nah. i'd still recomend sarge o.O
asciilifeform: in turdmeisterdom, for some years, 'missing deprecated pieces' ~= 'same'
mircea_popescu: not like they accidentally forgot to include nigger-super-systems