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shinohai: I dunno why I feel such distaste fr Julian Assange, I have never been able to put a finger on it.
asciilifeform: the hilarious part re: elbrus - given ~only~ the published material - is that it has standard chinese peripherals, on memory-mapped i/o...
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: given as the whole purpose of elbrus, to the extent it had one, is to be a non-nato computer
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this is the one thing guaranteed not to happen
BingoBoingo: That is likely. If any escape it may be that oracle wishes to kill the market for them.
asciilifeform: not even golden, but monocrystalline diamond toilet.
asciilifeform: like the last... 4 of'em
asciilifeform: if any were produced at all, they are being used in-house.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i will point out that i have not been able to locate an elbrus, nor has, last i asked, mircea_popescu, nor anyone else i know ☟︎
shinohai: True dat, asciilifeform ... mod6 told me the same :/
trinque: might be the thing
asciilifeform: zero tolerance.
asciilifeform: this is how we end up buried in cement truck full of shit
asciilifeform: i'm done 'mehing things off'
shinohai: I wondered about that myself, but just meh'd it off an mv
trinque: mmyeah that's pretty annoying
asciilifeform: i don't see why i should EVER have to mv bitcoin-v0_5_4-TEST1_8a8d52a747f0b0bd5d7a2cce9d0938f1dd6e1239.tar.gz.sig bitcoin-v0_5_4-TEST1.tar.gz.sig
BingoBoingo: http://www.itworld.com/article/2954835/oracle-preps-sonoma-chip-for-lowpriced-sparc-servers.html << possibly related to Elbrus revival
asciilifeform: i believe that i am not alone in ragingly hating its fucking guts
asciilifeform: ;;later tell jurov would you please consider getting rid of the PILE OF SHIT appended to the filenames ? ☟︎
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: began, then workload ate my free time for a bit, but it's still in my stack
BingoBoingo: 0.5.3 isn't much different from 0.7.2 really a lot of overlap. Mostly just more loc, but not too many differences yet in the ones they share. Most of the wild differences and cpp-isms enter in 0.8 and 0.9 and beyond
BingoBoingo: Head has plenty of space. I drink to clear up plenty of useful space in head. Anyways chopping away on system I choose to depend on that no one else uses provides a serious incentive to not fuck up.
asciilifeform: it is taking up space in your head where you could, potentially, put something valuable.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: imho, the problem is that the item you are becoming familiar with, has no future.
BingoBoingo: It is hard to say what anyone counts on. It is also hard to say how well I actually understand the cpp I attempt a performance of reading. And so Imma keep chopping at this for a while to get more familiar with the code. main.cpp is already ~1000 loc shorter than 0.7.2 release, perhaps more. I figure Derp on 0.7, read 0.5.x and patches and maybe at some point I will understand
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 23:49:03; ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> y'know, like everybody in, e.g., buenos aires, can << this is wild and unsubstantiated FUD. bad coffee is everywhere in ba, the argentines can't grow their own, and their braindead government won't let them import green beans in enough of a timely fashion to keep them from going stale or molding. i have *had* good cups of coffee there, but even in the nice places the espresso is only casi
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-07-2015#1218871 << none of the cups i had there tasted of burned diesel the way 'starbucks' mandatorily does. ☝︎
asciilifeform: (except possibly for me, i moved my personal flagship to my bleeding tree; but i'm not a serious user of bitcoin)
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 23:45:27; BingoBoingo: So, killing ophanage helps to seriously cut bitcoin memory usage on 0.7.3 much as it does on 0.5.3... Also CPU usage much flatter when keeping up aside from new block CPU storm
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-07-2015#1218870 << why did you do this, again...? ☝︎
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> y'know, like everybody in, e.g., buenos aires, can << this is wild and unsubstantiated FUD. bad coffee is everywhere in ba, the argentines can't grow their own, and their braindead government won't let them import green beans in enough of a timely fashion to keep them from going stale or molding. i have *had* good cups of coffee there, but even in the nice places the espresso is only casi casi. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: So, killing ophanage helps to seriously cut bitcoin memory usage on 0.7.3 much as it does on 0.5.3... Also CPU usage much flatter when keeping up aside from new block CPU storm ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 02:15:56; trinque: I reject entirely the notion that concepts can be owned.
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-07-2015#1217349 << total agreement. that book I linked you to put it this way "If an idea is true, it belongs equally to all who are capable of understanding it." p.56 - did you ever get to that btw? ☝︎
assbot: Block size according to technological growth. · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1IbIM6k )
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 01:58:03; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-07-2015#1217301 << the legal precedent is that if you're thye sort of guy that solves his own poroblems rather than seek the help of the state, you're a self-radicalizing terrorists and general wesley snipes of nato wants you in treblinka
decimation: but at any rate, you can experiment yourself, dump large quantities of data from one machine to another. you will find a non-zero error rate eventually
decimation: jurov: not so. plenty of packets would be lost if you attempted to spam me with udp, for instance
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell williamdunne bring back scoops !
jurov: i'd say it does not, it's either almost noiseless or there's no connection at all
jurov: decimation: since you like to split hairs, does, say, does the noise distribution in your internet connection have a value you can use in shannon's theorem?
trinque: do they do anything else anymore, other than govt theater
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2014 22:27:18; asciilifeform: the 'a) wanna buy strela? b) fuck off c) really, dontcha? b) ok sure c) off to jail' thing has been going so long that it doesn't even make national news every time now.
ascii_field: (karpeles doesn't want to eat the nailgun yet, apparently)
ascii_field: rather than his actual handlers
ascii_field: trinque: disappointing further down, where he accuses the sr investigator derps
decimation: <+jurov> funkenstein_: shannon would apply if the intertubes were analog < shannon applies to intertubes, as his theory applies to all tranmission of information - you must expend energy to communicate and there is no infinitely reliable channel
trinque: has king karp skipped tokyo yet?
assbot: Mark Karpeles: US Agents Might Be Responsible for Mt. Gox Hack | Money & Tech ... ( http://bit.ly/1MwVhPb )
ascii_field: that thing talks to modern nics, etc.
ascii_field: no 'css' on that www ! ☟︎
ascii_field: i bet that fella sleeps ad libitum
shinohai: I think I read somewhere that failed "social currency" reddcoin 's lead developer quit, after squandering all their IPCO funds, and now they are going to attempt round two. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: which ios this ?
ascii_field: and that iso boots!
mircea_popescu: yeah. lulz of all time.
assbot: A Guide To Buying 5000 Ether/Bitcoin, 2.5x More Than Ethereum’s Genesis Sale Offers | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1LTGPjz )
mircea_popescu: it's starting to come back to me.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu pre-sale was 1337 - 2000 eth/btc, depending on timing
mircea_popescu: meanwhile they sold for 1/4 what i was offering ? "presale" , what's that, the web2.0 word for "fraud" ?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski lol ? they claimed iirc something more like 0.001 which is whyt i was offering 5k for 1btc last year
ascii_field: http://www.dbit.com/index.html << in other nyooz, this exists.
mircea_popescu: no, seriously, what's the thing quoted at ?
kakobrekla: peterl and imdb wants to be 'smart'.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu you'd be an even older old man by the time you went through a billion eth
kakobrekla: peterl because the end point of assbot url parser is in france. assbot is on another server, for obvious reasons.
mircea_popescu: go there, come back with functioning hardware ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu can short eth there
ascii_field: let's together visit the planet with the market-that-behaves-like-market
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-07-2015#1218686 << obvious;ly thewir derpy web2.0 site doesn't load here. how much actual BTC could i get by shorting a billion eth atm, provided of course there were an actual market for the thing which behaved like a market and so i could do this ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 20:52:13; peterl: so I go to use the computer at $LocalLibrary, sign into their winblows system, pull up gmail, and lo and behold the previous user is *still signed in*.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field: we know how. but market does not want penicillin. it wants the normal cocktail of horseshit and opium << this sounds like it';d sell
ascii_field: phf: more of a 'written in proprietary turdlang'
phf: huh, i actually forgot that. it was somewhere in the discussion about conformal implementation, "not written in wot"
ascii_field: and if phf read the logz, he knows that i am an opponent of maintaining the 0.5.3 thing into eternity.
ascii_field: phf: c++ on x86 will be a turd, yes
phf: ascii_field: i'm having hard time understanding your point then. c++ on a von neumann machine leaks by protocol, so we either write against the guarantees of the underlying machine or not at all?
SuchWow: they do know me in #dogecoin tho, it's true. ;)
SuchWow: I am just SuchWow, never cared for identing with anything other than nickserv
SuchWow: are there IPOs with bitcoin based stocks at all
SuchWow: how's the bitcoin?
ben_vulpes: how's the dogecoin?
ben_vulpes is looking forward to digesting three days of megalog
ascii_field: this is what it means for an abstraction not to leak.
ascii_field: phf: when you lose your keys, you may not know exactly where they are, but you can be very certain that they are not on the moon.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo cheers mate. i guess i'm in the spammer books or something
phf: ascii_field: oh i'm still on the subject of wal logs
phf: ascii_field: so what's the difference between existing leaky abstractions that don't leak in some meaningful sense and the ones that we decide to introduce?
ascii_field: phf: and if you know of these leaking in some meaningful sense, please say.
phf: ascii_field: there's a lot of leaky abstractions in the current codebase, starting with "string" and "bignum". presumably the solution for those will be to port bitcoind to an architecture with tagged memory?
peterl: why did assbot get the title in french?
assbot: Les Pirates! Bons à rien, mauvais en tout (2012) - IMDb ... ( http://bit.ly/1SPDhPG )
peterl: reminds me of http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1430626/ where the antagonists are a bunch of rich snobs who strive to eat the most rare species
shinohai: We should help preserve as many lions as possible, IMO. What else are we gonna feed all the Xstians to?
ascii_field: kill, eat the last panda, why not.
ascii_field: 'why is a dentist wealthy enough to go on safari ?!'
ascii_field: such as losing bits when the mains current flickers
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 10:25:45; scoopbot_revived: Cecil the Lion is a Pretext for Expanding Extraterritoriality of US Law http://qntra.net/2015/07/cecil-the-lion-is-a-pretext-for-expanding-extraterritoriality-of-us-law/
peterl: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-07-2015#1217674 << why does everybody mention it was a dentist that killed the lion? Did a tooth extraction go horribly wrong? ☝︎