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danielpbarron: shinohai, funny you say
that; Eulora is supposed
to eventually have a MUD-style client
trinque: ShawnLeary: best
thing for you is
to read
the logs at log.bitcoin-assets.com; you'll find many
topics you may (think you) have opinions on have already been
treated
there, and exceptionally well.
danielpbarron: i used
to have poor FPS but someone showed me what
to comment out of a file
to make all
the superflous
terrain decorations go away and
that helped a lot
danielpbarron: i
think even
the most basic graphics card should work; it's not
the most cutting edge stuff
shinohai: I don't even
think I own a computer capable of playing Eulora on xD
danielpbarron: and Eulora needs no such silly currency pass-through
to have access
to bitcoin, as it's currency du-jour is already bitcoin
danielpbarron: we need more n00bs
to gather stuff for us and
to be apprentice crafters
danielpbarron: but it's very interesting
to me
that
there can be alternative
tokens of exchange on
the same proof-of-work
ShawnLeary: this is my first day in
this channel, so will do some more reading and research on it. Do you have a link
to Kingdom of Loathing?
danielpbarron: not
to be
taken seriously -- I don't
think it will be possible
to keep an exchange on
the blockchain if bitcoin is
to have a future
ShawnLeary: why would one want
to own MEAT?
to beat it? ;)
danielpbarron: on a related note, someone bought up all my shares and I haven't bothered
to re-up yet
danielpbarron: i don't follow
the XCP scene, i just occasionally put up buy/sell orders for my asset
ShawnLeary: I like long walks on
the beach and counterparty
funkenstein_: danielpbarron> you
tell
the full node what inputs and what outputs, node says ok here's a raw
tx
to sign (it includes an extra output pointing at node's own addr) and now you sign and give back <--
this could work
ShawnLeary: I'm
the organizer of
the Jacksonville FL Bitcoin Meetup
mircea_popescu: i got annoyed at
the "oh noes, how could
this
thing
that's been done since forever be done"
ascii_field: did i miss a line in
the log? where did
the web
thing come in
mircea_popescu: anyway. it bears insistingly repeating :
the internet is big.
the web is a pustule on its ass.
mircea_popescu: good for you. so how did
they sell datafeeds ?
txn blabla ?
mircea_popescu: why
the fuck does everyone imagine
the internet =
the web is beyond me.
danielpbarron: you
tell
the full node what inputs and what outputs, node says ok here's a raw
tx
to sign (it includes an extra output pointing at node's own addr) and now you sign and give back
kakobrekla: but
then you need another
tx
to cover for
that
tx
mircea_popescu: or
they could just rent vpn access like anyone ever since forever.
funkenstein_: or maybe best
to keep
the payment for
those services in a separate
tx
funkenstein_: so where does it go in
the
TX? is
there an OP_ANYONE_CAN_RECEIVE or something for
the relayers/mempool operators
to put
their addy in?
mircea_popescu: this
thing needs 3 knobs :
total ram
to be made available
to relayer, and min $/byte
to accept.
mircea_popescu: now cache is full and
to get in, either pay 10 per byte or go dangle.
mircea_popescu: you set 10 bytes aside for "mempool". 1
tx comes, has 2 bytes pays 5. goes in. brings 4 brothers.
danielpbarron can imagine situations in which full node operators get paid for
the service of relaying -- for example, 1) end user pays node
to relay his
tx and 2) miner pays node
to give him
the choicest high-fee paying
tx's exclusively
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: does
this mean
that we lose half of all
tx ?
mircea_popescu: this is where
that problem is solved. no point also solving it somewhere else.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field again : we have a pool of X bytes.
tx are allowed in only if
they pay more
than average fore
that x.
☟︎ ascii_field: even if, on some distant
tomorrow, we get
this jam,
ascii_field: relay has
to sit, eat
the cost of existing
mircea_popescu: the problem is solved
there. no point solving it n other places.
mircea_popescu: which is why
the idea is
to have X bytes, and
then allow
tx in according
to pay.
ascii_field: they can't have
the n bytes when my machine only has K-n
to offer !
mircea_popescu: but once
they made it
through
that,
they can have whatever
they want.
mircea_popescu: this is
the required balance
to
this scheme. yes, we kill all idiot children without anyu regard
to
the ever rising blood level on
the floor or
the
tears of
their mothers.
danielpbarron: you'd have
to keep
the
transaction in order
to remember
to not include it later
mircea_popescu: tx passed
the
test, and is now a
tx. should get something for
this.
ascii_field: see,
this is a 'fella walks in from
the street and gets something for having a pulse' situation
mircea_popescu: ascii_field for many reasons. such as for instance
that we could see a situation where enemy controls 80% of hash and refuses
to include your
txn
ascii_field: let
the fella who generated it, rebroadcast until it gets in
ascii_field: but i'm not certain why bitcoind must be a long-term flophouse for
tx
that can't find a block
to sit down in for weeks
mircea_popescu: nono, "tx paying
too little per byte compared
to others we know"
ascii_field: mircea_popescu:
that is,
tx without an antecedent block in
the machine
mircea_popescu: seems like an excellent error catcher, you wanna see if anything makes it
that late.
assbot: Logged on 31-07-2015 14:24:11; asciilifeform: go
try and ddos a
tier 1.
assbot: Logged on 31-07-2015 14:22:33; asciilifeform: re: yesterday's
thread, i'm frankly surprised
that mircea_popescu ~didn't~ buy
the
trunk line
mircea_popescu: ascii_field
thinking about
this... is
this
the
thing
that already drops shit
txn ?
ascii_field: who ever hangs for
two weeks waiting for a block ?!
mircea_popescu: ascii_field yeh.
they could be legit. you don't wanna assume about
the pool
mircea_popescu: i'll feel like having a lava lamp
taken out of my asshole once
this can finally be said. "no leaks!"
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: btw, is
there any reason we oughtn't shoot any
tx
that's hung around in mempool for more
than a few days ?
ascii_field: (last is
the one where each new block perma-swallows 300 byte of ram)
assbot: Logged on 31-07-2015 14:06:24; asciilifeform: ^ if
this is not a memory leak,
then i fart
toyotas.
assbot: Logged on 31-07-2015 13:45:16; decimation: danielpbarron: what does a 'practitioner of modern judaism' do exactly? like,
they know
they
torah and
tanakh but are
too cool
to follow
them?
jurov: well, cuz it processes only one attachment at a
time and i'm
too lazy
to redo it
to consider signatures
mircea_popescu: jurov why
the fuck would it publish anything whatsoever other
than what l1 people signed is beyond me.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field [...] such as ? << been
thinking of a usable packaging for your convenience since i said
that.