log☇︎
4800+ entries in 0.118s
diana_coman: the ~only consideration is perhaps whether to re-include whatever it hasn't yet received or just drop them and if they are demanded again then they'll make it again another time
mp_en_viaje: logically speaking, if it's unimportant it's unimportant ; this is a game world criterion your retry cache can't figure out.
mp_en_viaje: every time the server mentions an object it doesn't have, it asks for it. that's it.
mp_en_viaje: either it dies, or it doesn't die. if it dies, you can't play it. if it doesn't die, it somehow manages to make do w/o the item (ie, uses defaults)
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, speaking of http://ossasepia.com/2019/05/27/euloras-client-core-the-dedicated-requester/#selection-41.2-41.111 i don't see the wisdom in this position. suppose your client sees a new type of whatever, and manages to get everything but the icon. a) your path would require it to die trying but b) evidently going ahead while using a ~default~ icon until gets a better one is perfectly acceptable.
diana_coman: ugh, now ofc can't quite reproduce it i.e. it was something more subtle than what it seemed...
mp_en_viaje: doesn't preview, either ?
mp_en_viaje: can't what, save ?
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: it keeps failing i.e. saying can't
diana_coman: o.O ; I wouldn't have expected lousy net connection in Cluj, huh.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other femstate internet lulz : given that achille delmaet was principally famous for his (numerous, and some quite good) pictures of la goulue nude, why don't you... find some.
mircea_popescu: the very weird thing with this set is that they don't even wanna skimp on the armor. ustardians suffer of ~0% of the classical euro failurem mode, of being too smart. they'll go to the fuckign gym just to instagram their abs.
BingoBoingo: Just can't make the the Italian mistake of letting them skimp on the armor because it's heavy.
BingoBoingo: Put it that way, the proposal isn't novel at all. Simply grew fast.
BingoBoingo: Well, if 1950's USG said "Fuck College financing, GI bill's gonna send our veterans of foreign wars on foreign vacations"... Maybe education wouldn't have been so pantsuited
mircea_popescu: buncha fucken wankers, "if i check these checkboxes..." what then ? "mp can't accuse me of being a wanker" ? gimme a fucking break.
mircea_popescu: no dude, the ONLY "allure" is that... NOT MANY PEOPLE DO IT. that was fucking it. back when everest was interesting, to british subjects, it was interesting because british empire, first and foremost, and because, like "find nile source" or "go to north pole", there just weren't that many people who dun it.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, torrys and "Unionists" have some time to pick a stooge for the fall job. If they can't get a fall guy General elections.
diana_coman: to my mind if it eats you then the rest doesn't make a lot of difference in the end.
mircea_popescu: what do you find scarier, a mouth open so wide you can see the teeth, or a mouth open so wide you can't even see the teeth ?
mircea_popescu: as far as "don't take your guns to town" dorky mcdorkenson is concerned, there's nothing scarier.
mircea_popescu: nicoleci, there's a lot of these schmucks, who "don't want to assume". shit's scary, what! imagine, it bleeds monthly and you don't die, it's always wet yet you don't rust, IT CREATED THE WORLD!!!
a111: Logged on 2019-05-22 14:35 mp_en_viaje: he is the sort of guy who doesn't fuck a lot of women, doesn't speak a lot of languages, doesn't like reading things he doesn't know how to interpret and spends a lot of time fucking intricately with garbage.
mircea_popescu: but what he likes about it is the promise that perhaps sex isn't about sex after all, and thereby ye fearsome http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-20#1914729 might be had for cheaper by him ? please say he doesn't HAVE TO stick the member into the scary hole necessarily ? IT IS DANGEROUS!!! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: amusingly, the "debate" (between sex as a purely performative activity and "moral" sex) directly mirrors the older "purpose of literature" wank. it's a sure sign you're reading cvasi-literate morons when all their crap has a "clear moral tendency". which is actually the deep reason you don't like inane anglowank like jane austen, and ALSO why gay-in-denial us math grad / budapest "writer" does "like" it.
mircea_popescu: "fascinatingly threatening, so incomprehensible i can't even judge if the opinion i formed on it is meaningful"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, so basically, moving into the switch phase of his bait and switch scheme ? didn't work for that other cocksucker, either.
mircea_popescu: HOWEVER, idiots didn't think to make it temp related. just simple cycler
BingoBoingo: Plenty of things I used to find "cool" or "interesting" that I can't tolerate anymore
asciilifeform: today i can't stomach, even the older ones, barfalicious shilling for 'd-wave' co. etc.
BingoBoingo: Sure he does. He just lacks any anchor for comparison that isn't his prostate-nose
BingoBoingo: A computer isn't the price comparison point here. This is Uruguay, they compare to the price of a motocicleta.
BingoBoingo: http://archive.is/bFJMj Apparently some of the iThings that don't sell go higher in price, but 4-figure USD prices
mp_en_viaje: i get it, they don't do (enough) of what you want them to. but they do what they want to, for some reason they decided to go in through the phone hole. and they're in, orcs buy huawei, and declare it better than reich.
a111: Logged on 2014-06-05 12:19 mircea_popescu: the icbc is quite present here, to the point they do consumer advertising either. yet the argentines don't seem to have created any sort of synthetic debenture based proxy for the chinese currency
BingoBoingo: Huawei already owns the high end fondleslab pNohe market outside the US. Not like they can't use owning the market to shift what the warez is.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-22 22:27 BingoBoingo: I don't see why they'd do anything other than rebrand and stop paying licenses
mp_en_viaje: i don't wear glasses. i still got most of my 60/20 vision from youth!
mp_en_viaje: as long as you don't have me distinguish plain yellow from crude green you're fine
asciilifeform: not quite ~this~, naturally, but -- interacted. idjit sovok brass could've, e.g., left usg 100% without titanium any day of the week. ( but didn't , just had to have that delish usd.. )
BingoBoingo: Except Warsaw Pact and US economies didn't interact in quite this way
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: whole huawei episode seems rather like a replay of the 1980s 'ohnoez, mustn't sell pdp11 to warsaw pact' lulz
BingoBoingo: The question is how long will it take the white worms to realize their "license" revenue isn't going to keep them fat anymore
BingoBoingo: Note ARM can't stop shipping chips because they can't fab.
BingoBoingo: I don't see why they'd do anything other than rebrand and stop paying licenses ☟︎
asciilifeform: iirc e.g. 'gimp' also has knob for this, but couldn't recall immediately where
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-22#1915203 << this does help, ty. And I guess at the root of it all is http://trilema.com/2013/regarding-money/#selection-107.66-107.411, of which a takeaway may be "don't render yourself lame".. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-11-29 17:10 Mocky: in truth i do feel like idjit for being old man without the brains to have saved anything. i don't even have a workshop full of shit like asciilifeform
asciilifeform: thinking about it, i dun think i ever met what could be described as a thinking fella, who didn't write at least into a desk
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, didn't your favourite chemist take up literature ?
mp_en_viaje: doesn't seem likely
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i'm saying that the guy who is within the top 1% mathematicians could also have been within the top 0.5-2% historians, dancers or public women, and that what exact words you use don't matter, because much before any substantial skill or craft there's the 5yo's set of choices.
mp_en_viaje: ~anything you want~. part of the saving grace of the ustardian formulation is that 6yos generally don't seek sex, etc. people tend to want things they can represent.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-22 14:35 mp_en_viaje: he is the sort of guy who doesn't fuck a lot of women, doesn't speak a lot of languages, doesn't like reading things he doesn't know how to interpret and spends a lot of time fucking intricately with garbage.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje's hypothesis, like other 'freudisms', is 1 of those 'simple and clean' items that stands for just so long as you throw out the contradictory inputs. e.g. folx like that same newton, heaviside, tesla, etc who in so far as anyone knows, couldn't even get their cocks to stand on demand, yet still somehow added up to something, despite not fitting mp_en_viaje's [conception of ubermensch][http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-22#1915 ☝︎
asciilifeform: simply variant of soy sausage. 'you can [pretend to self] to do anything' is elementarily true. doesn't have much to do with the q of who can or cannot ~factually~ do sumthing.
diana_coman files this under the "I don't yet know what it is; work in progress."
asciilifeform: there aint necessarily 'problem'. the described theory doesn't immediately contradict observables. but where predictive ?
diana_coman: I suppose I don't grok what the equivalent of the heliocentric system is here, precisely.
mp_en_viaje: i dunno it gets mired in anything ; obviously if one uses copernican model to discuss ptolemaic astronomy one will end up with a lot of ptolemaic astronomy discussion. doesn't invalidate the heliocentric system tho.
diana_coman: it seems to me that it all gets mired into the current use of "personality" and "stem" and "introvert" to mean nothing at all/anything that is convenient; essentially I don't think they are what is currently claimed (intelligent -> stem!!! or whatever other nonsense) but I don't think that there is nothing real otherwise, either (rather: I don't know).
mp_en_viaje: i didn't parse that!
diana_coman: as long as it's all about "words", it just about amounts to that in all cases, yes; it can't amount to anything else anyway, since it's always something else, as convenient basically.
diana_coman: uhm; why is one un-natural, I don't get it.
diana_coman: quite; part of why I don't get it: the former examtake so it's not like they are actually any more reality-anchored as far as I can see
mp_en_viaje: this bunch will talk to girls, this bunch won't talk to girls.
diana_coman: i.e. this bunch will do as told, this bunch won't do as told? are they manageable or aren't they?
diana_coman: I don't quite grasp this invulnerability divide; to me it looks equally well "doesn't give a damn if gets killed" i.e. not "thinks himself invulnerable" but "thinks himself disposable"
mp_en_viaje: if there is, i don't see how it'd be defined outside of the invulnerability divide.
mp_en_viaje: intelligence has naight to do with this, however defined (leaving aside how it can't be defined) ; this divide correlates better with reals/humanities than any other.
diana_coman: fine but I don't see what that has to do with introvert vs extrovert
mp_en_viaje: i don't define, it's human behaviour, what define.
mp_en_viaje: though admittedly most soldiers don't know what to ask of the cunts.
mp_en_viaje: so yes, the kids that didn't make soldiers, made ploughsmen. often, the exact same kids.
mp_en_viaje: quite -- the ones who didn't make soldiers.
asciilifeform: iirc recent years' crops of reich.lawyers aren't esp. distinguishable from reich.engineers et al, also 'a lot of time fucking intricately with garbage' and the cultural level of sewer rat
mp_en_viaje: he is the sort of guy who doesn't fuck a lot of women, doesn't speak a lot of languages, doesn't like reading things he doesn't know how to interpret and spends a lot of time fucking intricately with garbage. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: admits gradations. e.g. http://www.loper-os.org/wp-content/fb/godsurge.png , might appear at nuremberg. martin's pile , went with him to crematorium, and i can't picture how this was surprise to him
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-22#1914915 << wasn't re 'with what to earn bread', lol. was re stjohn_piano_2's 'what to learn to be of use here' q. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: land of small dicked morons! so, they don't import magnum, because hurr durr, economically independent colony, they got their own. then, they don't fucking have durex extra large. because hurr durr.
diana_coman: well yes, but think of it: you are effectively making it *hard* for people (with established identities so those you say you do want to hear from) to provide feedback to you on the grounds that you don't want to bother with everyone; i.e. you are effectively unloading your work onto those who may be able to/willing to help you; doesn't seem a winning strategy to me.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-22 13:09 diana_coman: anyway, since I'm not going to jump through those silly hooks now, I'll leave it here: you can message deedbot/any user privately directly, you don't need to join some channel first; and re newcomers, it's usually safer for themselves to join one of the lords' channels first, really (e.g. #asciilifeform, #trinque, #eulora)
diana_coman: anyway, since I'm not going to jump through those silly hooks now, I'll leave it here: you can message deedbot/any user privately directly, you don't need to join some channel first; and re newcomers, it's usually safer for themselves to join one of the lords' channels first, really (e.g. #asciilifeform, #trinque, #eulora) ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-05-17 16:42 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914363 << if you haven't already read, you may be interested in ben_vulpes' classic likbez on v
a111: Logged on 2019-05-17 14:50 diana_coman: moreover, while it is doable (like ~anything else really), it's hard to really see the reason to *choose* to do it when one hasn't yet been sucked into it ; and stjohn_piano_2 strikes me as trying to NOT get sucked into it.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-17 14:30 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914356 << plz don't bother unless you have one lined up already; i will prolly do it with own hands sooner
mp_en_viaje: i expect the form doesn't read anything like "fucker, i'm not digging up your underwater mortgage for you, get the fuck off that horse"
mp_en_viaje: it doesn't work nearly as well in pretty much any other field. excepting, perhaps, chicken theft, which is why it's called gypsy flirting. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: as long as it satisfies them and doesn't get in my way...
mp_en_viaje: for as long as they don't pompously move into attempts at "governance", or in whatever other way forget their place, who can deny peacible coloveks the quiet enjoyment of their aftertea dreamtime ?
mp_en_viaje: more affordable that way. and, in limine, i don't even see much wrong with it -- so some people who aren't f1 pilots gather around and rent the old cars for a few hours a few times an hour, spin them in an old salt flats. something wrong with this ?
a111: Logged on 2014-03-18 02:20 ninjashogun: I'm Robert, as I mentioned. I hadn't talked to you guys before.
mp_en_viaje: with the added shame, of course, that james a donald hasn't, five years later, yet fulfilled ~his obligations~, natural as well as legal, to that piece.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They don't destroy the self. They preserve it in derealized selfy comfort bubble
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-20#1914750 << if can't se-cunt-titty, gotta sec-ur-itty. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: afaik most people don't want to get laid
a111: Logged on 2019-05-19 20:29 mp_en_viaje: in other better living through technology, https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/04/t-mobile-deceived-customers-with-false-ring-tones-on-failed-phone-calls/
mp_en_viaje: in other better living through technology, https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/04/t-mobile-deceived-customers-with-false-ring-tones-on-failed-phone-calls/ ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: in any case, it's not suggested to stay in reich ; the discussion was rather "if you stay". much like advice for diabetics isn't "first, get diabetes", but rather "if you already have diabetes..."
whaack: trinque: i can't say i fully grok the advice, perhaps in part because i can't readily read the linked manual, and bc the advice seems to suggest staying in reich, which directly contradicts the usual guidance given here