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gernika: trinque: Don't
think so: ./bitcoind: file format elf64-x86-64
trinque: gernika: anything interesting from dumpelf on
the file?
gernika: mod6 Built v0.5.4-TEST2 with rotor but can't run it on
the system I built it on because: "-bash: ./bitcoind: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error."
This is on gentoo built from stage3-i486-20150728.tar.bz2
mircea_popescu: eve's like one of maybe five people in
the jewish cannon i'd consider hanging with
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, maybe because in crypto
the attacker is usually called Eve
assbot: Logged on 01-08-2015 22:21:53; punkman: "
the attacker is not able
to forge new valid signatures, but Seifert’s attack allows
the attacker
to pass — with a certain probability —
the signature verification step, for a message of her choice, by corrupting
the public modulus"
kakobrekla: number of
tx * avg number of in/outputs = ?
kakobrekla: keeping all
the balance for all
the addresses wont be
that small.
mircea_popescu: you end up with a pile of html files
that would conceivably be smaller
than
the blockchain (no sigs)
☟︎ mircea_popescu: suppose you accept a new block. now you do 1) list it in /blocks/ ; 2) iterate over all
the
txn it includes, list
them in /txn/ ; 3) iterate over all addresses included, add and substract from /addresses/address.html
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you know nothing prevents you from doing even
the balance, in plain html.
kakobrekla: i dont see why save all html files beforehand if you can just dumpblock on
the fly, its a stupid operations it gets done fast.
mircea_popescu: what,
they've not invented dating in
their culture ? what is
this, polinesia online ?
mircea_popescu: what is
the point of even fucking existing if one's going
to be
this dumb ?
mircea_popescu: re
that "academic" link earlier : wtf is WRONG with
these people. i can not see a date onthe page.
trinque: people "MVC",
then it's memcached
this and redis
that
mircea_popescu: trinque ill confess about quarterly i get an itch
to convert
trilema
mircea_popescu: if disks are gonna fill with rubbish, i want it
to be my meaningless rubbish, not
theirs.
trinque: the vast majority of websites out
there should be
this
mircea_popescu: to replace
the useless duplicate of all
the shit in a ruby install.
shinohai: You shouldn't
trust developers
tis
true
mircea_popescu: exactly
to piss on
the face of all
the "developer" kids with "ideas"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes yeah,
there's a reason i keep saying plain html and db on disk and stuff
ben_vulpes: whence
the extra data? most of
the relationships should live in foreign keys.
gernika: mod6 asciilifeform fyi I just successfully built stator bitcoind on
top of rotor. Gentoo inside Parallels. Needed
trinque's patch.
kakobrekla: ben_vulpes others arent
that much smaller
ben_vulpes: but
transaction indexing etc should
take *that* much space...
ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: 'toshi' creates its db from a rails schema iirc, no surprise
that it's 10x blockchain size
ben_vulpes: ah jesus insight is a shitshow
that much i know from pissing on
the fence in question
kakobrekla: last i checked, years ago,
that was a piece of spaghetti pythons
that broke weekly
mircea_popescu: having someone from here
try it is still a great
thing.
ben_vulpes: which
to avoid, which are not miserable?
gernika: mircea_popescu Interesting.
That's one
thing you and Michael O. Church agree on.
kakobrekla: ftr,
toshi (postgres) currently has 488 gb database for
the 30 or so gigs of blockchain
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kakobrekla: mircea_popescu> it can list
them. < not
trivially.
trinque: lol
this
thing just uses various *print* functions
to log
gernika: Is
the pederast epithet a reference
to older VCs getting kicks from paying a bunch of young hacker boys
to hang out with
them?
kakobrekla: blockdumper is unable
to
tell you how much spendables is on a given address.
mircea_popescu: i enjoy making
their investments worthless for purely political reasons. pederasts gotta learn.
mircea_popescu: also
the fact
that "any node can stand up a block explorer" is just
the pill
to sink
the fucktarded "oh herp, we invested in bc.i" shitticon valley crap.
mircea_popescu: and add a "guaranteed accurate by process"
thing
to it makes it wunderbar.
kakobrekla: you dont need js
to bloxexplore on current blockexplorers
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i see
the use of a block explorer website with 0 js on it.
trinque: I hear it's getting big
these days
trinque: seems like looking for log messages in
the code would be a decent way
to find where
to hook
mircea_popescu: how is anything better
than irc and shell.
they want
the web.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla cause some people wanna click on web
things, what.
mircea_popescu: at all points
there's a purely injective function from blockchain
to blockexplorer html pile
kakobrekla: how is
this better
than just doing dump block in your shell
shinohai: no
then you are unwittingly pegged, like a fat McWhore
kakobrekla: bitcoind on its own gives you ability
to do approx nothing. it cant
tell me unspent output of an address unless
that address is in
the wallet (watch only suffices).
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you wouldn't know
the difference from
the clicking side.
trinque: I know, saying where he can get
the data
mircea_popescu: why do it on demand ? just dump out
the "block explorer" material as you process
the
txn
trinque: not bolted, should make use
thereof
trinque: hm yeah seems like
this should be bolted
to dumpblock?
kakobrekla: if block explorer is
to have any usability you imho need
to expand db a lot.
trinque: you can use it like a
template system... but... wai
shinohai: its dirty web studd, not meant
to be perm
mircea_popescu: also most people running it would probably not opt
to run apache
mircea_popescu: i was
thinking you write it in c++, like
the rest of
the code, can be compiled as an addon
shinohai: i know, i have
to use php until I learn perl
assbot: Logged on 01-08-2015 21:40:14; shinohai: Is
there still interest in a lame block explorer if i pursue
the project?
shinohai * mircea_popescu has
the chinese miners on his side
Apocalyptic: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: anvin's, for instance, is missing // interesting, did you notice any other key
that has been pulled out ?
assbot: Logged on 01-08-2015 21:35:28; jurov: i just wanted
to point out
that creating new adresses on
the fly isn't universally better
than generating
the from seed
cazalla: and i contacted
them saying hey, perhaps you'd like
to link
to
the original instead of a copy wrapped in adsense but he declined
assbot: Logged on 01-08-2015 21:28:52; jurov: danielpbarron: well, people like mp (or me) who want
to sleep ad libitum and
thus decided
to accept coins, inveitably end up requiring $maxint addresses
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, only
the display is cut,
the source shows
the full numbers