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assbot: Logged on 05-08-2015 15:04:31; shinohai: But not connecting
to anyone at all isn't
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: my coracle's been wedged at 367850 since last night, even with
the new db locks config. last 500 lines of debug.log:
http://dpaste.com/1XB21DH.txt , please let me know if more would be useful
ben_vulpes is not
terrifically familiar with
the git gpg integration
ben_vulpes: <Adlai> ootb, signed patches. deeding signed patches from darcs is less work
than doing so from git etc << how so? i've never
touched darcs,
the question comes from ignorance.
punkman: I imagine
they already have people in
those companies, why make it official?
Adlai: ootb, signed patches. deeding signed patches from darcs is less work
than doing so from git etc
trinque: I mean
they all can, but well?
trinque: the requirement
that signed and deeded patches be
the primary representation of a contribution great appeal
though, for obvious reasons
☟︎ trinque: wrap git or mercurial or something in hooks which enforce
the constraints desired
trinque: sure, and
that's another
thought
punkman: I don't want another VCS system. I just need a way
to import patches in my existing VCS.
☟︎ trinque: implementing a VCS isn't rocket science; it's just a matter of getting
the abstractions right
trinque: and
then maybe deedbot farts out additional nav controls on
the html versions of
these interesting deeds with a particular sexp in
them
trinque: so if you say did
the structured data in
the "blobs" as sexps you could sign
that
text easily
trinque: I probably missed one, and
they also divide into further classifications, ref for example can be a
tag, branch, stash
jurov: (currently on has
to clearsign
the .txt, make detached armored sig for .patch and use non-braindamaged email client
to put
them
together)
trinque: so, git does it
this way:
there are Blobs, which are a k/v pair of which
the k is
the hash of
the v; blobs can be one of: Reference, Commit,
Tree, Blob
trinque: one
thing
that would be needed on my end is a saner URL for a given deed; it needs
to just be
the hash
trinque: you could implement
the data structures needed for VCS atop deedbot in a similar manner
trinque: the way git handles
this is
that "everything's a Blob"
then "some Blobs are a
Tree which points
to n Blobs which may be
Trees or Blobs"
jurov: there must be better system
to put
together few files +
text
that already has crypto or can be extended easily
jurov: yes
the signed email + extra signed attachs is a kludge
trinque: no reason I can't add some html nav around
that a la dpaste
trinque: to date I've
tried
to keep it simple, hence
the deeds are plain
textfiles linked
to by a single index
jurov: email was chosed because it allows for structured
text + attachments. not sure how
to do it with deedbot
shinohai: But not connecting
to anyone at all isn't
☟︎ jurov: mircea_popescu: deedbot has currently even less friendly archives
than mailman
mircea_popescu: this readily enforces
the
two restraings we want enforced, which is : a) wot restricted and b) signed permanently.
mircea_popescu: the biggest headache
to date for jurov/users of ml seems
to have been
the mailing itself. i wonder how much sense simply deedbotting messages would make.
☟︎ trinque: and I can modify deedbot- however it helps; he already statically generates his site, perhaps he could interpret metadata in certain deeds and
take action
trinque: mircea_popescu | asciilifeform and mod6 and mebbe we have
trinque do
the graph << I'm in; seems like yet another static site generator job
shinohai: I can see 8333 from ny1.hashbang.sh
tho
shinohai: Could be I just started
this one,
the one I am already running returns 28670932
shinohai: Where it attempts
to connect but disconnects (no message in first 60 sec)
shinohai: Watching
tail
though I see exactly what asciilifeform describes
mircea_popescu: then it's not
that. prolly gotta pursue
the memory issue.
mircea_popescu: shinohai please run
this : cat debug.log | grep -c "no message in first 60" and report result
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and mod6 and mebbe we have
trinque do
the graph
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the rating for diana_coman from 2
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mircea_popescu: !rate diana_coman 4 Work on Eulora client, various
tidbits over
the years. Freelance statistician/coder.
shinohai: My node isn't connected
to anyone again
today *sigh*
mircea_popescu: also i'd like
to keep
this conversation open, for all
the folks whose
time is not day atm yet.
☟︎ jurov: i like it.
to be able
to remove files without dumping whole contents, patch should be patched,
too
jurov: by running gpg --decrypt on clearsigned
text
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how do
they handle
the "armored"/asciifucks issue ?
diana_coman: it
took me half an hour only, but yeah, I did not have
to re-read
the code or anything
jurov: diana_coman: you actually
tried
to apply
the diffs?
mircea_popescu: i dunno how you folks understand code otherwise, might be
that i'm rusty or inept, but anyway.
jurov: there may be ned
to publish other signed artifacts
jurov: though, with
this in-band signalling we will limit ourselves
to patch format
mircea_popescu: and i know
this can be done because it's how fucking viruses work.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and
the only
time i hear of any peep from
the entire shebang is when one of
them has gone over and i need
to come in here and start with
the !rate -10