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ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i don't know what i want -
this whole project is an endless barrel of 'wtf'
ben_vulpes: i am unsurprised
to learn
that software does not produce human parseable output at
the command line
mircea_popescu: “Why should I only get
this handout only
the months
that I attend school?” Explaining
that he needs money for going out with his friends and buying clothes all year round,
the young author concluded: “I don’t have anything against working. But if
the government doesn’t make sure
that I have a job, it is
their responsibility
to pay me
the handouts all year around”.
ben_vulpes: i
took a brief hack at figuring out how
to parse pcap dumps, but not very successfully
ben_vulpes: i plan
to
take a hammer
to
the coracle's blockchain soon, would like
to know if you see anything interesting in it
ben_vulpes: on a more interesting note, did you get a chance
to digest my mL of pcap, asciilifeform?
mircea_popescu: "Sweden has
traditionally relied heavily on
the strong protestant work ethic of its citizens. A cornerstone of
the country's welfare system has been a population which has been reluctant
to misuse
the system. Although
taxes have been high and government benefits generous,
the strong work ethic has stopped people from
taking advantage of
the welfare state. Alas,
this attitude has been largely abandoned. As
time has pass
ben_vulpes: i lack
the cultural contex
to appreciate "тунеядство" here
mircea_popescu directs questions as
to alf's interpretation of phenomena
to alf directly.
mircea_popescu: yet
this same consideration (few foplks heard of) does not prevent you from linking say hasnasj
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know which of
these a group noun falls into chiefly depends on how you examine.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes
there's no story. i dun
trust him, an' now you know i don't.
mircea_popescu: it's almost as if he respects
the scholar and despises
the whore^H^H^H^H i mean programmer
☟︎ mircea_popescu: it deeply fascinates me how alf does feel
the need
to maintain a -publicly stated!!!- corpus of humanities cannon, yet nevertheless does not feel
this need about a corpus of software cannon.
ben_vulpes: anywayz, what's
the story with decimation, mircea_popescu?
mircea_popescu: "and here's me in front of
the sphinx. notice
this other guy is speaking
to me about
the sphinx"
ben_vulpes: i finally left when he started
talking about fuzzing
the robocorps
mircea_popescu: it's
this entire "try
to find a
trend
to stand in front of"
mircea_popescu: and it kept going
to shit. once english bowmen owned french cataphracts
ben_vulpes: moreover "software is eating
the law in
the sense
that bitcoin is here and we do gpg contracts now" is...beyond
the derps.
mircea_popescu: in
this sense it went
to shit once legion surpassed phalanx.
mircea_popescu: it's "to shit" every
time
the contest moves from "who can hold his position in front of enemy with nary a care"
to "who can hide best".
Adlai: crossbow marks
the point where camping became +EV
ben_vulpes: i'm not arguing
the point, i just don't see
the point of engaging on 'formalizing
the whole legal system' with a guy who generates xml from erb
templates and
thinks
this is a good idea
mircea_popescu: notrly. recall
the unfortunate adventure of one mr orsini ?
Adlai: the crossbow is
the
turning point where war went
to shit
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes software is nevertheless eating law. except it happens somewhere other
than
there.
Adlai: which is itself dated by
the crossbow
Adlai: both came long after
the cannon
mircea_popescu: as orwell well observed,
the airplane and
the radio
turned
the war into a game of rats.
ben_vulpes: why
the shit do i want
to listen
to
the asshole responsible for
the broswer about how software is going
to eat law?
mircea_popescu: and
the only
thing "being a veteran" means is, "having loaded an endless list of don'ts"
mircea_popescu: nevertheless,
the vet knew enough from experience
to know
the war is now a defensive affair, and
the only
thing
that matters is not being killed.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> why
the everloving fuck would i want a car with better hidden failure modes from
the creators of
the car
that sucked. << i was recently at a pitch from legaleze.io wherein
the guy who runs
the formdump site in question lionized marc andresen, and
then displayed a pmarca
tweet congratulating him for saying something 'grand' about 'software eating law'
mircea_popescu: why ? why should he wish for
this ? after all, goebbels well observed "their determination" will make up for
the lack of weaponry.
Adlai: it's much easier
to look at
the nature of warfare and say, "oh, it's changing like
this, or like
that", but
the much more significant changes are in its *objectives*
mircea_popescu: i guess
this is
to some degree
true. war changes
to favour offensive or defensive in a cycle.
there's an excelent scene in der untergang, where a veteran field officer surveying
the killing zone
through stereoscopic periscope sees a bunch of green vulksstrums and yells for
them
to get
the very fuck out of
there already!
Adlai: far from a 'videogame war', modern warfare is still quite shitty, but
the precise nature (taste, color, proportion of black bile vs yellow) changes
mod6: hanbot: good news!
thanks for
the update
mircea_popescu: admire
the irony of having been defeated by a quote from a videogame, in your quest
to defend
the videogame war.
ben_vulpes: probably, but now i can't find
the line in
the logz
Adlai: it really just depends on
the war
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: forgive my
thickness but what is
the breakfast reference?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform originally
tried by michail paleologos as "heavenly host"
mircea_popescu: i always wondered if any star
trek fans ever wondered what happens
to
the spaceship once saying "shields up!!" "shoot lasers!!" etc stops returning "enemy destroyed"
ben_vulpes: <Adlai> drones have not replaced soldiers, just relocated
them into air-conditioned cubicles << and only until
the em wars get serious
assbot: Successfully added a rating of -1 for decimation with note: Guy's been soft working
teh #b-a for about a year and a half. Needless
to say, it didn't work out.
mircea_popescu: !rate decimation -1 Guy's been soft working
teh #b-a for about a year and a half. Needless
to say, it didn't work out.
Adlai: well
they do say
that it's useless until it reaches
the gut, sounds like optimization
to me
shinohai: Kellog also advocated yogurt enemas
to fight masturbation, which in my mind was just kink.
mircea_popescu: and, i might add, symptomatically, for
the perspectives of being a libertard,
the newly branded ustardian puritan.
mircea_popescu: (masturbation, spending
time alone, and generally not being a jock also parts of disease of gayness)
mircea_popescu: worked about as well as you'd expect, on
the basis of
the record of ustardian puritans.
mircea_popescu: and if ytou cut it off
the boys will be protected by Utilihova from becoming filthy fags.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla ironically, because puritans of
the 50s
thought
that
the foreskin is a major factor in
the disease of gayness
Adlai: load
that into lisp, M-x slime-inspect, etc etc
mircea_popescu: and i am still reeling over how imbecillic philg got over
the years srsly.
Adlai: actual software runs on machines younger
than a decade (but not much!), but it still has
to speak
text for
this box
to understand
Adlai has progressed
to doing most actual *work* from an X-less 'thin client', never been happier
mircea_popescu: why
the everloving fuck would i want a car with better hidden failure modes from
the creators of
the car
that sucked.
mircea_popescu: consumer culture,
that's it. "the car you sold me sucked, i want you
to give me another one"
mircea_popescu: who
the fuck in his right mind goes for seconds at
the place
that fucked it up.