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mircea_popescu: so it's not
that it's not "pvp based" it's more
that even its pve is really pvp by another name.
mircea_popescu: for
that matter, eulora is not pve, it's evp. in point of fact player activity will attract environment challenges. you build a house, ogres come
to it sort of
thing.
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 19:10:23; ben_vulpes: i just recall faint intimations
that it wasn't quite
the focus as it is in eve or wow
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 19:04:47; ascii_field: and who, if
the screenshots on his www are anything
to go on, is playing
the video version
mircea_popescu: and
there's no particular intention for
there
to only be one.
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 19:03:22; ben_vulpes: i imagined a path
the other night where chetty actually stopped maintaining her owhn client
mircea_popescu: i'll
take over
the us fed and run it from right here, and if
there's nobody else i'll
take over fucking china silicon and run it from right here
too. what in
the ever loving fuck.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: if i'm not
taking it over, who
the fuck is, "the state" ? aliens ? chtulhu ?
mircea_popescu: will you
take over
the writing of your language and write stuff jurov ?
danielpbarron: i bought
this laptop (the one on which I play Eulora) specifically for its video card; at
the
time I needed
to be able
to play Dota and minecraft on linux
trinque: problem
to worry about when
the metric shitloads of old hardware available everywhere vanish
☟︎ jurov: hardware does break down.... will mircea_popescu
take over chinese factories
to manufacture old stuff?
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 22:45:19; mircea_popescu: break
the entire usian industry
that relies on "new".
mircea_popescu: "Error : Your videocard is not old enough for you
to be here. Get an older videocard and come back".
this is what i wish
to see.
chetty: well cars smell better
than horses
mircea_popescu: and no,
technology doesn't "change everything".
technology changes nothing and never did.
mircea_popescu: this "progress" bullshit is dumb and must die.
there's nothing in
the future but a buggy, half assed, stupid reimplementation of
the past.
mircea_popescu: if
they were dumb enough
to lose
the recipes,
they'll have
to reimplement based on our os.
chetty: ok,
time machine
to go in
the past and retieve useable cards ..
mircea_popescu: cards from
the past were made, and
therefore can be made. period and full fucking stop.
mircea_popescu: chetty no.
the "use specified card, spec=future"
thing is braindamaged. nobody has cards from
the future.
chetty: nest we will need a
time machine
trinque: mircea_popescu:
thought here is
to image a USB drive, and have
that
thing be able
to push-button image a computer it has booted
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 19:03:20; ascii_field: or face
the choice of asking players
to buy vintage cards
trinque: I have put some work into
this
today. I converted mod6's guide
to a script which builds a bootable root.img
mircea_popescu: the criteria for being "ba canonical os" is for it
to fucking work, not for it
to be fucking unique.
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 18:44:44; gernika: General question - is
there value in continuing
to
test stator, and future versions of it, on OpenBSD? Or should I abandon
that and just
test on Gentoo from now on?
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 18:12:58; ben_vulpes: i'd not mind learning a bit more about
the
thing so's i can have some fun automating it
danielpbarron: hahha yeah right i'm gonna play some game
that isn't eulora
☟︎ trinque: our solution was
to redefine
the word!
danielpbarron: few
things in
this world more satisfying
then pwning someone's loot stash
danielpbarron: specialized in
tracking down bases and selling
the coordinates
to raid parties
danielpbarron: i played on MCPVP,
the most hardcore pvp server
there was
thestringpuller: danielpbarron:
that's
the best
time
to kill each other. don't you play minecraft?
chetty: <ben_vulpes> in favor of a few different
text based ones//I like it
trinque: bitcoin,
the magnetic field pulling all iron filaments into alignment
danielpbarron: every /explore is a chance
to get $MAXINT (no, seriously)
danielpbarron: there are like.. 12 players right now. wouldn't make much sense for us
to start killing each other (not
that death has been implemented yet)
☟︎ danielpbarron: yes it is
that first and foremost as is any accurate simulation of human life
trinque: within
that category both pve and pvp make sense
trinque: seems an environment
to learn how
to
think in
terms of economics
danielpbarron: understandable, as PvP only makes sense when
the first 'M' in MMO becomes reality
ben_vulpes: how
then
to hold
territory i guess is a question
ben_vulpes: i just recall faint intimations
that it wasn't quite
the focus as it is in eve or wow
☟︎ ben_vulpes: grues becoime valueable, everyone goes for
them, hunts into extinction,
their prey emerges
ben_vulpes: if i recall
the con3-versations on
the
topic, pve's
the real game
danielpbarron: in
the future i imagine
there will be epic battles between guilds or whatever, and in
that case
the 3d world will be necessary
danielpbarron: but at
the moment, most of
the
things I do, do not require seeing
the 3d world
mod6: <+ben_vulpes>
twould please him no end
to see
test reports coming in from
that platform << certainly let me know how it goes. yeah, might have issues with rotor on
there. I'm still sync'ing my obsd bitcoind build (patched up
through -verifyall).
trinque: I am doing more or less what's described
there
trinque: if I'm
taking
this on I'm hesitant
to use someone else's
tool
ben_vulpes: in fact
those who run its economy rarely even leave
the spreadsheets
ben_vulpes: i
think you misunderstand
the question.
ascii_field: and who, if
the screenshots on his www are anything
to go on, is playing
the video version
☟︎ ascii_field: ask mircea_popescu, who paid a pretty penny
to commission
the graphics
ben_vulpes: in favor of a few different
text based ones
ben_vulpes: i imagined a path
the other night where chetty actually stopped maintaining her owhn client
☟︎ ascii_field: or face
the choice of asking players
to buy vintage cards
☟︎ ascii_field: N years from now,
they will be forced
to permit crapolade
that does not exist at
this moment
ben_vulpes: seems like a similar approach
to what
trb and eulora are doing
ascii_field: ^ appealing idea. but unless he does
the decidedly un-sexy step of 'closing
the universe' and nailing down packages ~FOREVER~ - it will fall apart. in exactly
the same way every other distro did.
trinque: quick googling suggests people have
tried it
trinque: gernika: please do make note of
these differences
gernika: Incidentally I spent about 1hr attempting
to build rotor on OpenBSD - got buried in
tiny differences between bsd/linux.
trinque: though
the --script flag would suggest otherwise
ben_vulpes: who knows, we may have
to
take a dependency on forthos
too
ascii_field: who knows,
the day may come when we gotta get
the cosmoline grease off bsd and run it. like
the ww2
tanks
taken off
their monument pedestals and sent
to fight in donetsk
trinque: ben_vulpes: also happens
to have an installer
that isn't a field of broken glass
ben_vulpes: i still maintain hope
that libressl can be used
too
gernika: Because I won't be able
to build it "deterministically" without rotor. Was my
thinking.