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onlooker: if you fail to keep a secret they you have two choices, you can blame yourself for not keeping it well, or you can blame me and try to enforce copyright
mircea_popescu: so then...
mircea_popescu: that's between you two.
asciilifeform: when i buy a piece of shit from a street merchant i ain't taking no oath.
hanbot: n6 alright, so then make that your top priority.
onlooker: I don't think copyright is the same thing as keeping a secret, if you keep a secret and you keep it well then you don't need copyright
mircea_popescu: as usual, consumers have no business in any of the places they stuff themselve.s
asciilifeform: where the negotiating leverage on one side of the table is nil
mircea_popescu: yeah, well, then... it's complicated.
asciilifeform: nah. just object to this kind of thing happening in a consumer setting
mircea_popescu: do you propose to do away with the POSSIBLITY of that understanding ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ever been privy to something on the understanding you won't be sharing it ?
asciilifeform: i don't see how it 'is complicated' at all. folks who wanna be paid when i copy a number, get a raging hardon for the state (tm) (r) when it makes noises of promise to make it happen
mircea_popescu: it's not really true. man's no rockerfeller. son of a middling queens landlord is all.
onlooker: lol, well thats no surprise, governments specialize in making simple things complicated
n6: hanbot: sorry I lost my key(Not a person), still trying to fix my lsub issue on gentoo before I make a new one.
trinque: mod6: putting that email together
trinque: I love that.
trinque: mircea_popescu: one thing occured to me this evening re: trump. he's telling the other people running to their faces that he's bought and paid for all of them in the past.
mircea_popescu: iirc lost it all in a dubious las vegas casinos transaction with fucking merv griffin.
onlooker: hi there, would you like to share your thoughts on copyright? I've only come across your writings today and found them most entertaining.
mircea_popescu: trinque actually trump has been rich for a while.
hanbot: n6: get in the wot, don't pester people via pm, and forget about any braindamaged notions of "lobbying MP" you've cooked up for yourself.
phf: though i'm not sure how much i want to put to public record on this subject. i made some interesting friends when i moved to this country, unfortunately this whole culture seemed to have died out. even when i was enjoying it, it was mostly archival work
phf: parsons is quite a character, there's a nice writeup about him and the whole crowley/hubbard connection in "apocalypse culture"
phf: i'm sure hubbard just lifted whatever he could from his time at the agape lodge
ag3nt_zer0: pretty weird considering what hubbard went on to do
ag3nt_zer0: yeah... you ever look into the jack parsons/crowley/hubbard threesome?
phf: the appocalypse. the details are a bit hazy
phf: i only vaguely remember that talk, because i listened to it under the influence, and at some point i was convinced that i could perform magical rituals, and the only thing keeping me from fundamentally affecting reality was years of societal conditioning that i could at the time overcome. i think i was also at some point convinced that bush was a great grandson of aliester crowley by way of pauline pierce, and that he's going to bring about
ag3nt_zer0: phf: i dunno; after he said he wrote his own reality and as he was writing the things he was writing were coming true I figured the comic couldnt be better than that...
ag3nt_zer0: it's no secret that california shares a magickal connection based on the law of correspondences to the Hindu goddess of destruction and the final age of dissolution, Kali... nor is it coincidence that the sun sets on the western world in KaliforniCaitlynJender - Bernardino porno bender blender
phf: ag3nt_zer0: inivisibles is like a popcorn pulp version of pkd, illuminatus and magick. it's a fun read when you're 24, but definitely worth a read through if you're into that sort of stuff
mod6: no giant rush tho.
mod6: yah, I left him a note to re-send a patch with a detached sig to the ML. can help or do it for him if required, etc.
mod6: was a gentoo/glibc environement -- compiled buildroot with the musl settings. didn't change anything to the "rotor" steps execept for adding the change to BDB configure options in trinque's message.
asciilifeform: oughta be part of the official ball then
asciilifeform: didja have to use trinque's patch ?
mod6: was nice to see rotor build cleanly today btw.
mod6: once we have that, and a new patch from trinque, i can complete my script and have a rotor that builds these test bundles with x86-64
mod6: ok. that's my next basic goal. build a patched bundle up through verify-all with rotor.
asciilifeform: i personally regard these as important knobs and their absence from the original bitcoin as an atrocity
ag3nt_zer0: phf: still lolzing haha thx fnord! fucking california haha
asciilifeform: also it is possible to hash a blockchain using dumpblock
mod6: so it wouldnt be a waste of my time to proceed in that direction? ☟︎
asciilifeform: mod6: i regard them as useful
mod6: do you think we should even bother with block dump/eat, -verify all?
mod6: was thinking that next I'll work on a patched bundle up through -verify all with rotor. and then work ourselves up to a place where we feel comfortable.
mod6: it has to be downloaded seperately. thats fine. i did this today.
ag3nt_zer0: i mean I get the whole thing he was on about but he was seemd stragley excited haha
mod6: so i don't wanna seem like im replicating work; just trying to clean it up a bit.
asciilifeform: it has to be supplied by the operator
mod6: yeah. but your bundle doesn't have the right directory structure, and doesn't really have a patching trail or anything.
ag3nt_zer0: I never looked at that comic... I saw Morrison speak and thought he was weird haha
asciilifeform: (rotor takes a stator)
asciilifeform: mod6: i think you already have this ?
mod6: asciilifeform: so, what my goal is, short term, is to produce a bundle that (similar to TEST2) is patched up through -verifyall that we can drop into the rotor, and use that for testing next.
ag3nt_zer0: shit about wilson and all that?
ag3nt_zer0: phf: hahaha was that really in the INVISIBLES?
asciilifeform still wonders what that 'cheese' thing would smell like
pete_dushenski: every day a new maze, then... cheese !
mod6: I can not wait until we get past all of this.
assbot: Okily Dokily - Simpsons You Only Move Twice - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kbh9eb )
asciilifeform: i also appreciated. how else would we have learned that i am the last one alive with a sane linux install, for instance.
mod6: I appreciate you trying to build it.
mod6: pete_dushenski: don't bother with the testing for TEST2 (or anyone else), just work for now on building rotor.
asciilifeform: why even bother then.
mod6: im mis remembering that from v0.5.3.1
asciilifeform: introducing local turdlets over which you have no meaningful control.
asciilifeform: defeating the very purpose of stator.
asciilifeform: ^ you are using CRUD FROM OUTSIDE THE STATIC BALL
mod6: However, I have seen that on Ubuntu & Debian if you build boost without libboost-python-dev boost will complain -- it will still compile, but it'll complain. it complains less with the python errors if it has that and the libbost-python-dev dependentcies installed.
asciilifeform: if your stator did not build before but builds after running the above, IT IS NOT STATIC !!!
asciilifeform: stator doesn't need them either !
mod6: Right, should be trying to bulid the Rotor, really.
asciilifeform: HAVING THEM ON YOUR BOX IS USELESS AT BEST!
asciilifeform: neither stator nor rotor needs these!
asciilifeform: start the recipe and prod me when you hit a stumble.
asciilifeform: and go from there
asciilifeform: no need to reinstall os
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: if you're up to it, try building, i'll walk you through it while i'm awake
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i know you wrote rotor for a reason, of this there is little doubt, but believe it or not, your instructions aren't dumbed down enough for me
asciilifeform: and use that binary for the rest of your life if you like.
asciilifeform: rotor differs in that it is enough for you to find ~one~ box where it can be made to go
asciilifeform: and each of those will need seven workarounds to be forced with red hot irons to behave in FUCKING STANDARD WAY
asciilifeform: yes, i could sit down and debug this
asciilifeform: the reason being that this is a waste of life
phf: re was explained in grant morrison's INVISIBLES series. get your facts, straight son, straight from the source. fnord.
phf: ag3nt_zer0: raw didn't pen principia, that's just a persistent misconception, in FACT it was revealed to trinque in its complete form by the divine mother HERSELF (hail eris!) during some of his particularly strong ACID trips (10 strip, they said it was weak, so he took 6, damn, man, i'm seeing things ain't even come up yet), at which point he traveled back in TIME to spread the good word to the honest people of california. this and much mo
assbot: [BTC-dev] UPDATE: v0.5.4-TEST2 Pre-patched Test Bundle : TestersNeeded! ... ( http://bit.ly/1DEslTm )
pete_dushenski: well that's interesting
asciilifeform: 1) therealbitcoin does not use zlib 2) therealbitcoin does not use dl*
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: what the hell did you build, and on what
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell mod6 http://dpaste.com/3YFS9YV.txt << test2 logs for ya
assbot: Logged on 08-08-2015 22:01:36; mircea_popescu: you took your life in your hands. if some guy with more men and a whip felt like it... you were meat.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-08-2015#1231334 << this is still sop. nobody cancelled it any more than anyone cancelled gravity. ☝︎
assbot: BitBet (S.BBET) July 2015 Statement on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1hqOrPA )
ben_vulpes: try again, apologies, thank you
ben_vulpes: aha, yes, i know precisely how i hosed this
ben_vulpes: which does *not* match the one currently on my site.