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danielpbarron: very strange, I can ping it on my local network, but can'
t ssh to it
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Didn'
t SU have it's own philipino style satellite?
BingoBoingo: outcome doesn'
t matter, but conversation in the media is everything
mircea_popescu: kinda what i was going to say next, "don'
t worry too much, things have a way of sorting themselves out"
BingoBoingo: Outlasting? Isn'
t that the point of every cult?
BingoBoingo also doesn'
t recall seeing a mats piece yet
mircea_popescu: anyway, no fiddy cents. coupla hundy should be enough. miners can'
t actually support their shit even at current prices, if it halves.
mircea_popescu: i thought you didn'
t have any, didn'
t care to have any and didn'
t etc ?
mircea_popescu: mno, they don'
t watch anything, just keep humming this tune in their head. which is perfectly fine and utterly uninteresting.
mircea_popescu: except i couldn'
t care less about the derps. what, you think they're people or something ?
mircea_popescu: just like should we look for places to poison mice, we'll go by the holes ; but should we look for a hero mice to reward with a wheel of cheese - we won'
t notice the holes.
shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo I couldn'
t come up with a lulzy enough filler for that story so gonna pass it on to whoever wants it.
mircea_popescu: it is when a man ridicules the nuttery of singles marriage, openly, and doesn'
t entertain it, openly. it's some luxuries no us president ever had.
mircea_popescu: why ~the fuck~ do you suppose the koreans gotta do ever more inane absurd shit ? isn'
t being a korean bad enough ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, "we own him now" "heh" "and this is why we bought usernet archive, too" "get lost" "why won'
t you think we're cool!" "because you're old, and lame, and smell bad"
mircea_popescu: you know... we aren'
t using this shit for a [number of] reasons.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> perhaps i had everything backwards << which is exactly my metapoint here. for as long as such can occur, it is CLEAR we don'
t have the perimeter of this thing yet.
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> i did not. << you saw it, you didn'
t like it
assbot: Logged on 04-03-2016 21:19:30; mircea_popescu: for instance (and plox, before we run off with it - example only!) : if every tx was defined as "only 1 input - only 1 output" and if you wanted to make a larger payment youy'd have to make MULTIPLE txn, then a) the protocol would actually make a lot more sense, atomicity-wise and b) you wouldn'
t have the problems jurov describes. because pay x to y with fee z would exist EXACTLY one way.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Then just resubmit, haven'
t opened it yet.
mircea_popescu: they don'
t make ~fat~ gurlz here. but they do make shorties.
mircea_popescu: for instance (and plox, before we run off with it - example only!) : if every tx was defined as "only 1 input - only 1 output" and if you wanted to make a larger payment youy'd have to make MULTIPLE txn, then a) the protocol would actually make a lot more sense, atomicity-wise and b) you wouldn'
t have the problems jurov describes. because pay x to y with fee z would exist EXACTLY one way.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: which is why bitcoin protocol discussions are so complex, and the whole thing so hard : because omfg, the complexity. you don'
t even rightly know where the problem comes from really, in the rat's nest.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the net-as-publictoilet era will e << and this is exactly the situation we have now, except we don'
t like the miners.
jurov: yes this needs some examples and i don'
t have it
jurov: overall, i feel i can'
t explain myself well to you no matter what i try
mircea_popescu: i have no fucking idea, it's a random string. it certainly didn'
t have some sort of intention, and i was certainly not thinking of you.
jurov: then we had dicsussion where I was unable to explain why addresses aren'
t spent, but outputs are, same reult
jurov: i explained why NAT is stupid, like one way telephone that only accepts calls, you laughed at me and told you wouldn'
t want any other
jurov: we don'
t have anything better than cartesian joins?
mircea_popescu: EVEN if you build a tree - which you do not, chiefly because don'
t know how - you STILL lose out on the rebalancings
jurov: i don'
t argue to keep current algo!
jurov: letting memory to fill with turds isn'
t lame?
jurov: and won'
t work in practice.
mircea_popescu: there is absolutely nothing wrong relaying multiple txn that spend the same inputs ; there is EVERYTHING wrong with the notion you shouldn'
t do this.
mircea_popescu: the notion that it works any other way is so fucktarfded i couldn'
t begin to explain it
jurov: it will be done some day in shivascheme, maybe even by me, but I don'
t seehow to keep good (or predictable) memory usage
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the way my intel works is that i don'
t give a shit about the source data, i read summaries of summaries. but god fucking help you if i go for a endpoint-to-endpoint spot check and the whole conduit isn'
t there.
mircea_popescu: libraries in cn about physics written in cn by cn that you can'
t get in english
mircea_popescu: no, because i don'
t read chinese, nor actually care punctually. i just get (and care about) synthetic reports.
mircea_popescu: and all the smoke and mirrors the vc freakshow may aim to deploy with software ain'
t gonna help lipstick this one pig.
mircea_popescu: this means the good chinese phds do not go there anymore ; and that the americans who aren'
t fucktarded long left.
mircea_popescu: because the cyclotron building either works or does not. and they can'
t lie about the latter.
mircea_popescu: i don'
t think any human being in the history of this "man-woman family" idiocy has EVER heard "sure dad, go ahead, it's your money anyway"
PeterL: isn'
t the "m" in "stem" math?
mircea_popescu: oh, this isn'
t about math. this is about stem. stem costs TURKEY dollars.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform much like soviet economy endgame, stuff isn'
t being replaced. simply removed.
mircea_popescu: something else other than the uni-money pump can'
t be sustained anymore ? why ?
mircea_popescu: you know, if you meet two retarded teenagers cca 2004, it doesn'
t mean "britni is everywhere".
mircea_popescu: shinohai i don'
t get it, person should go through 1-200ish gallons of water a year, every year. what's the problem there ?
davout: tbh i don'
t know, what i know is that there won'
t be any bullshit like "oh btw, withdrawals on chain [A|B] are deprecated"
davout: so basically you can actually use high leverage, except it doesn'
t quite work so well when you win, because it doesn'
t work very well when you lose
davout: kindof reads to me like "ohai, we're offering x100 leverage, but because we can'
t be sure to liquidate positions properly, we spread losses on everyone who actually made a profit"
felipelalli: ben_vulpes, but I didn'
t understand the relation.
cazalla: doesn'
t read like previous ones of yours i've read, so i guess no
punkman: is this a bastardized mp quote? can'
t recall the source
punkman: but stuck coinz don'
t get unstuck because you moved priv keys
punkman: pete_dushenski: I read the blog post, didn'
t make sense
pete_dushenski: because it's then a throwaway intermediary. and yes, hoping that bc.info doesn'
t spend same coins in same 10 minutes is the risk.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: user can'
t send tx because blackholed for using verboten tmsr service, let's say. user exports privkey from wallet, imports to bc.info, sends coins to new wallet and continues on his merry way.
mircea_popescu: compare the counties where scheme was implemented (it's always done by the "local barons", not a central thing) with the counties where it isn'
t.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I refuse to vote for a clinton so no, can'
t vote for hairday guy
ben_vulpes: look i'm always down to see people humiliate themselves or be humiliated but the acres of derping around before the hammer comes down isn'
t edging its just fucking boring
mircea_popescu: i don'
t recall when's the last time a democrat was so culturally inept. maybe carter.