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BingoBoingo: Supposedly they are getting a 100 inches of snow soon. Can't fall into the ocean soon enough
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i must confess i don't get the latest qntra. wut ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1424125 << bee-dog was originally a joke re very summary vision (because bees see large pixels and dogs don't see colors). see : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-02-2016#1413916 ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1424171 << lol what could we do that we can't do here..? ☝︎
thestringpuller: why can't we just have nice things...
asciilifeform: and yes, convention. newton's laws also make fine convention. until they don't.
mircea_popescu: because B mined on the basis of the chain that it saw ; and A idem. there's no guarantee these would stay coherent, and so they didn';t.
mircea_popescu: not being a superposition of eigenstates myself, but a resolved one, i can't both credit and not credit the 5btc. would seem i have to choose one.
mircea_popescu: ok, take the nonsense practically : there's A, as illustrated yesterday, the group of six nude ladies ; there's B, b-a. i hope you folks aren't nude atm ?
mircea_popescu: i don't expect this realisation to be within common reach.
asciilifeform: isn't that what i just said ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not 'bug somewhere else', but a payoff matrix that doesn't equilibrate at 'herd'
mircea_popescu: trust me, unlike you that doesn't play, i ~created~ a homeostatic game world.
mircea_popescu: this is nonsense. you needn't balance the desire of syphilis to defect from syphilisdom by injecting my with tb ffs.
mircea_popescu: males trying to get together to gangrape individual females ; females getting together trying to create wailer choruses to keep the male group at bay, everything we don't like about society reduces readily to "it's not made up of individuals", ie, poolmined.
asciilifeform: we don't even have a currently.
asciilifeform: because i utterly don't get it
thestringpuller: should be making "free asciilifeform" t-shirts and protesting the white house
nubbins`: wait, btc is money in the USA, isn't it?
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 14:01:07; nubbins`: alf is simultaneously saying he can't afford to get a box of shirts shipped to him, AND that he can't find anything to spend $10k bezzlars worth of btc on?
asciilifeform: i don't take it with them.
nubbins`: for alf, "poor" means he can't stop working permanently
nubbins` flatly doesn't believe alf is "poor" in any reasonable sense of the word
nubbins`: alf, i don't think you quite understand how few shittier countries exist than the one you're in
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 13:44:29; nubbins`: he can't just move out of DC, he has to do it on a carrier fleet
nubbins`: alf is simultaneously saying he can't afford to get a box of shirts shipped to him, AND that he can't find anything to spend $10k bezzlars worth of btc on? ☟︎
nubbins`: shit article, don't click
nubbins` can't imagine the sort of mindset required to believe that the only two viable options for one's future are stasis or a $10mn windfall
nubbins`: he can't just move out of DC, he has to do it on a carrier fleet ☟︎
asciilifeform: which is why i won't accept usd wires from people, etc.
asciilifeform: what i don't want is its motion to add to my detectable usg taxability in any way.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: you don't get it.
nubbins`: you don't get to control what happens to it once it leaves your hands
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i don't want any of my btc to feed usg.
nubbins`: wait, you don't want usd or something
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i won't sell for fiat because it gets taxed.
nubbins`: "what can i buy" as a process of elimination isn't something i'm interested in participating in
asciilifeform: dun need these for anything. i don't even own iron that could run eulora.
nubbins` can't imagine alf in a department store
nubbins`: no, problem is we don't know what you need because you're not telling us
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 13:18:04; mircea_popescu: 18<nubbins`> buy something with it. oh wait, the seller may convert it to usd. << he got the exact answer, but wouldn't take it, because reasons.
mircea_popescu: 18<nubbins`> buy something with it. oh wait, the seller may convert it to usd. << he got the exact answer, but wouldn't take it, because reasons. ☟︎
nubbins`: thestringpuller can't quite recall the print
nubbins`: t-shirt is something people spill mustard on & get cum all over
nubbins`: fucking up a t-shirt print = $6 wasted. fucking up a poster = $0.70 wasted
mircea_popescu: i don't even recall how many we ended up distributing, was it like 10% ? 25% ? 1% ?
mircea_popescu: * asciilifeform had nfi >> you recall, we made a t-shirt design, he agreed to print for a very nice rate, ended up storing them for us.
asciilifeform: it can't at any point become usd.
nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423412 << just so i can suggest appropriately, this is money you don't need/want for practical use? ☝︎
jurov: !t m x.eur
nubbins`: speaking of work, i have a large number of S.NSA t-shirts still taking up space in my basement
nubbins`: it's a "work machine", so i'm more concerned about how it runs illustrator than how well it protects the private keys that aren't on it
asciilifeform: ^ shouldn't mpex be denominated in gold pieces-of-eight now?!1111
asciilifeform: 'got any moar of that sole known antiinflatronium you don't want? we'll buy!'
ben_vulpes: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-capacity-nightmare-fees-reality/ << annals of "don't mention qntra whatever you do"
asciilifeform: (though it isn't as if i have anywhere to go to.)
mircea_popescu: isn't it clever ? ECu. see ? cause Cu is copper.
mircea_popescu: then there really isn't anything besides ecu.
asciilifeform: the one thing i pointedly won't do with it is give it to usg.
CrazyTruthYakDDS: since oh you can't use the blockchain for coffee purchase
asciilifeform: wasn't asking for.
mircea_popescu: well - i thought you didn't like the father pistols, and shouldn't you be thankful this one's dislodging ?
danielpbarron would have been more surprised if either 1) bitcoin didn't fail or 2) bitcoin didn't become some sort of one world government causing monster of a thing
mircea_popescu: don't tell me we're in any imminent danger of selling cardanos ?!
mircea_popescu: how do you know what you were doing helped kill hitlker and how do you know it doesn't no mo.
mircea_popescu: what do you expect changed with trb ? you weren't doing it to get rich, were you ? you weren't doing it for redditettes to throw their panties at you, were you ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i can't pay rent in anything but usd and don't see this changing.
asciilifeform: not like 100% of my work wasn't funded by bad old usd always.
mircea_popescu: this particular system, for instance, i've been running for a while now on a half dozen long etc hosts, i don't even notice.
mircea_popescu: which, inasmuch as it's philosophical, doesn't really get touched by phenomena.
mircea_popescu: not that the philipinos won't be coming out of the underbrush to push the unexpected "just as good" verbiage, or w/e.
mod6: well, everyone who doens't matter.
mod6: Why is july a thing? This doesn't make sense. If prb wants to fork a centralized mining protocol, that doesn't make it any less dead.
shinohai: T_T
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: famine doesn't affect rats and mice. quite the opposite.
asciilifeform: if you're talking about gold and you aren't wearing a crown and leading an army -- delusional.
JuliaTourianski_: the thing alt coiners don't get is...if btc "fails" alt coins lose all cred. wont get any traction EVEN if perfect
BingoBoingo: Becaus ewe can't have a republic without money
BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski_: They went against the don't be shitheads when 51+%
mircea_popescu: and sure, you can blame the miners. the problem is - the design sort-of forced this endgame upon them. i doubt most of the chinese even understand ~what went wrong~, in the very faint general, letalone in this specific ~what we did wrong~. by the chinese bible they were being very reasonable and i just don't understand how the world works. ach ach my dear fellow mp.
mircea_popescu: however, if it is going to be an altcoin, as in, no continuity, then it doesn't matter so much if tomorrow or yest or whenever.
asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu doesn't support things, period. and imho this is reasonable.
BingoBoingo: !t m x.eur
BingoBoingo: !t m s.mg
BingoBoingo: !t m s.nsa
BingoBoingo: !t m s.mpoe
BingoBoingo: !t m s.bbet
BingoBoingo: !t m s.qntr
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2016#1422884 << well, the privacy risks aren't exactly dubious in that i don't atm see how ring signatures would prevent miner cartel from attacking bitbet. except, of course, if predicated on "miners are lazy and dumb". which is true - until they aren't. much like ants are lazy and dumb, until they get into the fridge, at which point they'll dumbly&lazily never want to leave. ☝︎
asciilifeform bbl, heard that the ants in the kitchen are having a conference, and wouldn't mind if he attended to 'add his voice'
fluffypony: I don't think there was a question of whether or not he would come
asciilifeform: do they also wonder why mircea_popescu won't come.
fluffypony: ah yes, the asciilifeform "everything is bad except this hardware thing I've been working on for 4 years and still can't finish" argument
fluffypony: for everyone else your special case doesn't apply
asciilifeform: as t-->+inf - YES.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo? << was a thing, don't recall exact link or quote
asciilifeform: (i consider a machine where ctrl is NOT where capslock usually is, and capslock isn't GONE, -- UNUSABLE)
asciilifeform: and FUCKING NO, the idiot xmodmap thing is pointedly not it (doesn't work in the console) and the keymap derpery is also not it (doesn't work in X) and neither works in, e.g., 'dosbox'.
asciilifeform: and wouldn't you expect peritoneal burst prior.
asciilifeform: to the point that they didn't leave so many for the germans to use