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mircea_popescu: what do you do with leaves, eat them ?
Adlai: flowers are too beautiful to burn
mircea_popescu: but i doubt i actually went through a pound yet.
mircea_popescu: i don't think i smoked enough to pay for a decent book in those tobacco prices.
mircea_popescu: making nearly £40 a year. Even before the war when the same tobacco cost 8d. an ounce, I was spending over £10 a year on it"
mircea_popescu: "Twenty-five pounds a year sounds quite a lot until you begin to measure it against other kinds of expenditure. It is nearly 9s. 9d. a week, and at present 9s. 9d. is the equivalent of about 83 cigarettes (Players): even before the war it would have bought you less than 200 cigarettes. With prices as they now are, I am spending far more on tobacco than I do on books. I smoke six ounces a week, at half-a-crown an ounce,
Adlai: divorce is generally a much more lively affair, due to involvement of the living
ascii_field: (old thread, re: when i discovered that some derp posted a fake (!) 'naggum's books' list in place of real one)
Adlai: ultimately sentiment trumps
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 22:21:02; asciilifeform: those aren't naggum's books!
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mircea_popescu: Adlai at the time it seemed the other way.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the "biblioteca de arta" collection was easily 500 volumes. it mostly dealt with cultural anthropology, aesthetics and such. tiny fraction of a fucking library seriously
Adlai: what's odd about that
mircea_popescu: oddly enough, more interested in the books than in the girls, coupla decades later.
Adlai: but a single piano is more expensive than most book collections
mircea_popescu sadly never thought to take pictures of the thing itself, all he has is various nude girlies in front of bookwalls.
mircea_popescu: how ELSE are you going to furnish a house ?
mircea_popescu: twelve and sixpence is about 20 dollars in today's money.
mircea_popescu: quote : "You don't suppose we read that stuff, do you? Why, half the time you're talking about books that cost twelve and sixpence!"
ascii_field: today even a schmuck like me has tens of thou
ascii_field: in those days, they cost money
mircea_popescu: what the fuck "i own 442 books" what is this!
mircea_popescu: i owned > 10k volumes before getting rid of the lot, as a 20yo man.
mircea_popescu: l text-books and so forth–that accumulate in the bottoms of cupboards. I have counted only those books which I have acquired voluntarily, or else would have acquired voluntarily, and which I intend to keep. In this category I find that I have 442 books, acquired in the following ways:
mircea_popescu: The books that I have counted and priced are the ones I have here, in my flat. I have about an equal number stored in another place, so that I shall double the final figure in order to arrive at the complete amount. I have not counted oddments such as proof copies, defaced volumes, cheap paper-covered editions, pamphlets, or magazines, unless bound up into book form. Nor have I counted the kind of junky books-old schoo
ascii_field: Chinese forum (in Chinese, which I can't read, but it seemed to be about Lenovo). In the end it did the exact same thing that the autochk.exe method (under Windows 7) does (loads LenovoUpdate.exe, installs a service, etc), except you get a cryptic entry in your System Log: "A platform binary was successfully executed."'
ascii_field: 'nstead, a file called "wpbbin.exe" was placed in C:\windows\system32 and executed. That turns out to be a method Microsoft introduced with Windows 8 to allow the BIOS to execute code on boot up (!?!) called "Windows Platform Binary Table (WPBT)". I can find almost NOTHING about this anywhere on the internet except a single document on Microsoft's website (link to the Google Cache since it's a .docx file) and in a random ☟︎☟︎
ascii_field: btw this is precisely how the well-known 'computrace' works.
ascii_field: ^ lulzy, quoted for the record.
ascii_field: internet connection is established. I don't know too much exactly what those do, but one appears to phone home to http://download.lenovo.com/ideapad/wind ... 2_oko.json which is a bit worrying with the combination of a "ForceUpdate" parameter shown and the lack of ssl, making it fairly likely that it's exploitable for remote code execution by anyone who can intercept your traffic(public wifi, etc).'
ascii_field: 'Before booting windows 7 or 8, the bios checks if C:\Windows\system32\autochk.exe is the Lenovo one or the original Microsoft one. If it is not the lenovo one, it moves it to C:\Windows\system32\0409\zz_sec\autobin.exe, and then writes it's own autochk.exe. During boot, the Lenovo autochk.exe writes a LenovoUpdate.exe and a LenovoCheck.exe file to the system32 directory, and sets up a services to run one of them when an
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mircea_popescu: international things are better right ?
mircea_popescu: "Trusted Platform Module From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from Fritz-chip) Trusted Platform Module (TPM) is an international standard for a secure cryptoprocessor,"
assbot: Lenovo G50-80 dialog box - Ars Technica OpenForum ... ( http://bit.ly/1JduFTZ )
mircea_popescu: enough to prima facie anyway
mircea_popescu: or pulsar, as the case may be, same principle.
ascii_field: a falling brick does that.
mircea_popescu: in a sense they always are : they verify at the minimum that math is homogenous in the universe.
mircea_popescu: so : those could as well be the remote part of a fritz chip
mircea_popescu: the turbines
mircea_popescu: i mean the wtf he called them
mircea_popescu: nevertheless : he has this idea that you can nono.
mircea_popescu: not sure how to best convey this as the guy's terminology is a sort of pigdin latin numerals.
ascii_field: (for n00bz: 'remote attestation' is this crackpot concept where usg has permanent root (yes) on 'your' computer, and uses it to verify that you aren't, e.g., running illegal linux)
mircea_popescu: ascii_field incidentally, it's funny to consider the relations between "remote attestation" and hock or w/e the thing was called
ascii_field: (regardless of what the fritz is made of)
ascii_field: see log, also, for why the approach where the whole computer is not inside the fritz is laughable on its face
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> boils down to the hardness of the fritz chip << the reason they don't call it that is because they are trying to avoid the literature documenting the costs of making it hard and the limitation its softness imposes.
ascii_field: for answers to questions that don't have rigorous answers, but must be answered.
ascii_field: kinda one of the reasons wot is a thing
mircea_popescu: it can readily be shown riguroulsy that this is impossible iun the general case
mircea_popescu: sort-of like the interesting problem of "detecting emulator"
mircea_popescu: <mats> i'm rapidly tiring of being a relay << why's the guy not come over anyway ? well... i guess the answer's actually obvious huh. nm.
assbot: Logged on 10-02-2015 03:25:08; mircea_popescu: this is like asking wyatt earp "how do you distinguish between the f brothers and stray dog"
mircea_popescu: not even necessary in the case at hand, but as a general rule.
mircea_popescu: <mats> wasn't telling a lie, merely made a mistake <<< it's a very interesting point as to how do you establish this ? ☟︎
jurov: not that i complain.. needed some fiat :D
ascii_field: it's quite another to propose that this can be a little pc peripheral turd that i can get 10,000 of and somehow still not crack
ascii_field: i mean, it's one thing to consider a whole computer in a safe which sets off built-in nuke if anyone so much as scratches the door
ascii_field: fwiw, i always thought the idea of a copyprotection dongle that tries to take over the whole machine was quite lulzy.
ascii_field: and so the bullet was deemed unnecessary
ascii_field: but the latter succumbed to its own weight
ascii_field: incidentally, the only reason fritz chip was not pushed more aggressively is that it was really intended to prohibit linux
ascii_field: the best scam is the kind where the scammitude is implicit
ascii_field: what's to keep me from sitting it down on one bus where ram hashes to H, then it spits key, and i sit it back down on another.
mats: he is quite clear about what it can and can't do, no dishonesty as far as i can tell
ascii_field: let's say it sits on the bus and refuses to decrypt magic blob unless it thinks hash(ram) == H
ascii_field: i never understood how anyone could ever be so gullible as to believe that 'remote attestation chip' could be a thing
ascii_field: aha, then relies 100% on fritz chip.
assbot: Logged on 12-08-2015 19:30:01; ascii_field: which there is no mention of in the paper.
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 00:52:21; mircea_popescu: here's the long and the short of this story : you got two whores, just like in the chemistry and agriculture story. one's whomint, the other's slutmint. you gotta fuck either one or the other. they both have very specific, life altering constraints.
ascii_field: but the saving grace is that in 100% of such cases, the 'intellectual propertyyyyy!111!' holder is a twerp, and cheaper to give one of his employees a candy bar
ascii_field: and this is often gnarly and expensive to reverse, because it's on fpga, yes, and might need 500 units to destroy
ascii_field: generally, folks who are obsessed with 'someone may steal my magic algo!!111!!!!' ship the whole shebang on fpga with config in sram, backed with watch battery;
ascii_field: boils down to the hardness of the fritz chip (and yes, i will keep calling it that, because the motherfuckers don't get to pretend that fritz, palladium, etc. never happened.)
assbot: Jacob Torrey - HARES FAQ ... ( http://bit.ly/1NaIaDI )
mats: so there's no attack here.
ascii_field: which there is no mention of in the paper. ☟︎
mats: i'm rapidly tiring of being a relay, but: he says that intel's 'trusted execution technology' wouldn't work with marss86, and you'd also have to have the key to provision marss
punkman: ascii_field, someone has to pick the low hanging fruit, no?
ascii_field: punkman: the goat-fucking ones - sure
punkman: ascii_field: but they do run windows
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2014 03:00:53; asciilifeform: me: why would terrorist run ms-win. he: they will always, trust me.
assbot: Logged on 15-07-2014 03:00:27; asciilifeform: one of my first job interviews out of uni. telephone. a fellow from one of the giant gov. contractors was really intrigued that i know x86 asm., have reversed crud for money. i ask him 'what's the job'. he: automated reversing. me: of what. he: ever hear of karatsuba's algo? me: sure. bignum mult. him: well, we wanna find encryption softs on terrorist drives!
ascii_field: the thing about the 'hares' fella is that he is a textbook case of 'but terrorists wouldn't DO that!!111'
ascii_field: but all of this is well-known.
ascii_field: (typically malware folks try to detect emulators by looking for well-known imperfections - if operator is an idiot, these will be found - or for external time base, which can set off a trap if machine appears to be uncommonly slow by wall clock time.)
mats: wasn't telling a lie, merely made a mistake
ascii_field: but, again, this is a cheapo 90% solution for poor folks.
ascii_field: according to the docs, thing is built on qemu. with none of the 'accelarator' crud that used kernel mods.
ascii_field: seems like he's already told one lie
mats: guy's not a scammer as far as i can tell, and you do a disservice to folks (and yourself) by coming to judgment so quickly
ascii_field: but i have not tried it. no need.
ascii_field: sorta like the uniquitous qemu
ascii_field: not according to the docs
mats: ascii_field: he asserts that 'massr86' uses a VMM, which would be detected
assbot: Logged on 12-08-2015 17:54:13; mircea_popescu: one of the best places for stego i can think of.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-08-2015#1236222 << not a bad way to transmit ephemeral (session) keys ☝︎