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davout: mircea_popescu: lol yes
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you missed all the fun
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu!
BingoBoingo: For people catching up on mircea_popescu gavin drama http://trilema.com/2013/and-gavin-moves-on-to-the-dark-side-the-bitcoin-project-is-officially-hijacked/
ben_vulpes: it's downright suspect that mircea_popescu goes to lunch and gavinandresen shows up
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2014 13:57:10; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: remember the story about gorby and andropov?
asciilifeform: Pierre_Rochard: see mircea_popescu's articles (ask him which, when he reappears) for elaboration.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu hasn't even opened up yet
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] nah, writing everything in c++ is dumb. << write it in every language, discover interesting bugs.
assbot: Logged on 21-01-2015 16:54:23; mircea_popescu: ima be back in ~3 hours.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu awake ?
davout: mircea_popescu: private, he pm'd me on btctalk after seeing me comment on the fork off thread
davout: mircea_popescu: dunno, didn't do it myself, figured it'd be too good for them and get downvoted anyway
davout: mircea_popescu: "Cette entrée a été publiée dans Bitcoin le janvier 21, 2015"
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: regarding paygrade << have you ever seen Inside Man?
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu> apparently they'll want to change bitcoin to gavincoin 1:1 later on, but they don't want to change it at a 25% discount today. << should better offer it at 25% over, otherwise they are admitting their coin has the lower value
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: nah, writing everthing in c++ is dumb. << wasn't bitcoin-qt 0.1 in Visual C++? that was even worse
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: pity conformal isn't better known. << how so? ben_vulpes has referenced them a lot over the past two years. they are making me want to learn Go.
assbot: Logged on 08-01-2015 22:31:37; mircea_popescu: "Gavincoin orphan chain to reach 50 blocks before being abandoned" is kinda not the same as "Blockchain will increase"
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> davout here's the story : big bombing here in the 70s, at the jewish center. dozens of victims. << was this a proxy attack on israel?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have not tested it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there was another, iirc, in c
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for all i know, it's hitler.
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user luceo: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 5 via 10 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=luceo | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=luceo | Rated since: Tue Jun 12 14:09:09 2012
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust mircea_popescu luceo
assbot: Logged on 22-10-2014 18:53:07; mircea_popescu: it's one thing to trust this rnd function because asciilifeform and 25 others signed on reading it.
assbot: Logged on 10-09-2014 11:54:21; mircea_popescu: other than proper cryptography for all foss, as discussed coupla days re gentoo overlays etc, i would fucking love for all lines of code to come with a counter.
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: If Gavin wanted to force the hardfork, he wouldn't be frustrated at his inability to convince people ;)
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: I'm definitely in favour of taking a conservative approach, and I'm pretty sure most of the Bitcoin Core team is as well. I think Gavin was probably frustrated earlier when it came up in #bitcoin-dev because nobody could give him a straightforward "way to convince everyone"
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: Gavin wants to know what has to happen for people to agree to it - he isn't trying to force it through without consensus
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: did you read the discussion earlier in #bitcoin-dev ? nobody is going to just go along with this as it is right now.
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: what? I said I got what i got.
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: there isn't anything yet, he hasn't even proposed one
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: no, what you describe is an attack disguised as a hardfork
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://www.exclassics.com/arist/ariintro.htm << familiar ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: last i heard, not impaled yet
davout: mircea_popescu: "but for the sake of argument, explain to me how exactly is this any less than some derpy cartoonists being shot by some random idiots ?" <<< easier for the media to blame teh arabs than to blame their president i'd say
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what kinds of "public meetings" happen?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: have you seen much actual derping in public about this nisman thing?
davout: mircea_popescu: haha
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that -is- cleaning.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: remember that ruin you showed me in Timis? asked 'what does it cost', and you said 'you can buy but city hall'll make you clean it'
jurov: mircea_popescu: you would be able to do it only every 100 blocks and since you wouldn't then use external tx fees, rather unprofitable
nubbins`: mircea_popescu 2257.com available or what?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu gets it
thestringpuller: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CuOEM9uwO5w-RwWGCCZpVGVFwhHHHegxJZqTP5KyapI/edit#gid=0 << mircea_popescu was right about him making block size infinite
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes, in america, the flat i moved out of last may
assbot: Logged on 18-01-2015 21:55:19; mircea_popescu: ok well, inasmuch undata is new and this isn't really very hard, let him do it then, gain some cred.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: bitcoin has no price signal << MP ain't opening the studio up until this is fixed
STRML: mircea_popescu: Just wanted to say that I appreciate what you do, I didn't realize you were behind MPEx
STRML: mircea_popescu: Our cofounders and board members have 40+ years combined in banking
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: rumor is they've been seeking more funding. dunno if they'll announce another round soon or not.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: curious if bitpay announces anything soon.
STRML: Thanks mircea_popescu
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Of course. It's just amazing how shitware isn't limited to the stuff that Stan blawgs about.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: That's seriously looks like where the system is headed.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol! nope
coderwill: mircea_popescu: anything you wish you'd known when you first started putting together your exchange that you know now?
coderwill: mircea_popescu: Is MPEX your exchange?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol, have you -seen- an american jury.
kakobrekla: ping mircea_popescu BingoBoingo
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu you're probably thinking of the 300 sel, if not one of the diesels
TomServo: mircea_popescu: Things seemed to be getting messy with the drama earlier. Having to rate in two places.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] hm. turns out i don't actually understand what merged mining actually is. << welcome to my club of ignorance
davout: mircea_popescu: for the first >1mb block you will necessarily have a different merkle root, so you can't possibly have the same block hash at any point afterwards
davout: mircea_popescu: what would be in that table?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, that's what the channel's for.
BingoBoingo: <davout> mircea_popescu: there is this auxillary proof of work notion, "Not to be confused with the "previous block". This is a block that is structured for the parent blockchain (i.e. the prev_block hash points to the prior block on the parent blockchain). The header of this block is part of the AuxPOW Block in the auxiliary blockchain. " << Basically this is my understanding. Both Bitcoin's would insist on being the "Parent" unl
davout: mircea_popescu: there is this auxillary proof of work notion, "Not to be confused with the "previous block". This is a block that is structured for the parent blockchain (i.e. the prev_block hash points to the prior block on the parent blockchain). The header of this block is part of the AuxPOW Block in the auxiliary blockchain. "
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Best I can tell it's a nobody. But they had a bunch of perfect ratings from tiny trades.
davout: mircea_popescu: also i read a bit more about merged mining yesteday and today, especially how merge-mining namecoin came to be
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/01/lizardstresser-hacked-customer-details-leaked/ << lmao epic scoop. << It's the one I've been waiting for. Anticipated the thing only meriting an epitaph.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: no clue
xanthyos: !up mircea_popescu
felipelalli: Thank you mircea_popescu. Any relation with https://www.coinbr.net/ ?
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: thank you. Is that possible to buy these shares on OTC or only in MPEx?
asciilifeform: decimation: see also mircea_popescu's article 'the corn thing'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wai wat
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sure, but... never escaped his problem having potential
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> stalin could also have problems. << Well Tito is a serious amount of problem to have.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this almost certainly requires a dead usg, or at the very least one which is in no condition to sinecure progressives.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Seriously, the dramas
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] "arbitrary access to transactions in the chain is not allowed to avoid having clients start to depend on nodes having full transaction indexes" << there has to be more to this story. << pointless degradation of network protocol to reduce utility of bitcoin.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: anyway, it could easily be self-financing << only if lots of games are available over time. vis-a-vis crypto-arcade/midway but meh dunno. Long road is long :P
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: something simple like playbot, i want to play chess << already pretty much done with this in GPG. Needs to be vetted thoroughly tho before any widespread release
mircea_popescu: something simple like playbot, i want to play chess with peterl. to which it responds "peterl are you playing with mircea_popescu ?" and then it looks for the moves, updates an inner state and keeps spitting out pngs of the board as links.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> "arbitrary access to transactions in the chain is not allowed to avoid having clients start to depend on nodes having full transaction indexes" << there has to be more to this story << Prolly related to post 0.8.x versions not keeping a full txindex by default. Have to set a flag for them to do it.
undata: mircea_popescu: I've got it adding keys and accepting valid signed messages, building out the bundle-and-stamp process
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: link?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the point was not about optical snooping, etc. mundane fact is that the number one application for svga ocular is really partizan infantry.
davout: mircea_popescu: see you published, nice! reading nao
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they are mostly, but not exclusively, issued to jet pilots
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: head-worn displays are considered, by usg, to be key military tech (all existing manufacturers of serious - i.e. svga and above units - supply usg exclusively) ☟︎
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] if the fashion looks like it doesn't have the steam, backlash prevails. << i wonder if Apple has the steel to pull off their watch play.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ask'em
ben_vulpes: words don't just *lose* their meaning mircea_popescu sheesh
davout: mircea_popescu: LOL
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] ben_vulpes so why not bring mom here ? << well now she's full-bore communist. notrly good company for the asshats.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://imgur.com/EdLych8 << even this was in there.