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asciilifeform: he was on the receiving end of a perelmanning

asciilifeform: can reverse this equation also : every superlinear scam is , effectively, a 'reform movement'

asciilifeform: epidemiologists have a similar concept for virulence

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'reasons' being that 'scams on honest men' do not, as a rule, produce 'free radicals'

mircea_popescu: "that was a great blowjob. would you like someone's wedding ring ?" "lol sure"" here, pick"

asciilifeform: but what was interesting is that none of the pawnshops ~sold~ anything in the storefront. only bought. little hole in the wall, you put in goodies and get a few orcbux

mircea_popescu: i'm getting a better idea of what you mean.

asciilifeform: 'make him think he has A System For Winning (tm)(r), he'll go home and fetch his gold to pawn' etc

asciilifeform: there was an ancient link re carnival and casino-flavoured chumpatronics , where a historian of the subj observed this

jhvh1: shinohai: “I Wore the Juice ”- The Dunning-Kruger Effect – Galleys – Medium: <https://medium.com/%40littlebrown/i-wore-the-juice-the-dunning-kruger-effect-f8ac3299eb1>; The burglar with the lemon juice disguise – Mind Hacks: <https://mindhacks.com/2010/02/11/the-burglar-with-the-lemon-juice-disguise/>; Why a bank robber thought covering himself in lemon juice would ...: (1 more message)

mircea_popescu: judgement by similarity has rendered a bunch of esltards imagine 1k usd is something they can afford. ridoinculous.

mircea_popescu: scam of all time, a horde of useless 20somethinfg dicklets burdened under an immense pile of debt to "repay" for the "Service" they were rendered, which 99% consists of utterly unjustified and absolutely unsustainable self-expectations

shinohai: I'll make a pull request.

shinohai: More shitcoin lulz: "Linda Cryptocoin is a hybrid coin with more than 70% pure PoS Block reward phase and 99% APR. This coin comes with a masternode which ensures lightening fast secured transaction, multi-wallets, encrypted messaging and stealth address for complete anonymity. "

asciilifeform: it's a simpleenuff item that there's really 0 excuse for not making own.

mircea_popescu: note tho that i am NOT going to enforce any kind of responsibility for vtrons. the item says "MAKE YOUR OWN!!! vtron" for a fucking reason, and this is that reason -- if you use another man's parachute package better not be surprised by the fact he likes to keep girl undies there.

mircea_popescu: it's like a hammer that'll pound a finger it had not necessarily created ifg you put the finger where it pounds.

asciilifeform: i.e. problem may not turn lethal for a while, but eventually somebody will sit down in 'sweet spot'

a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 21:49 mod6: based upon some commentary (going by memory here) lead us to the decision to delete the press directory even if it existed and then create a new directory even with the same name and re-press.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-10#1768685 << imho a proggy that deletes without warning an item which it itself had not necessarily created, is a backwards-firing pistol ☝︎

Jautenim: mircea_popescu my issue is that I had a wrong expectation wrt the press operation and cut meself a finger

mod6: It's a work in progress. :]

a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 20:29 BigTexasBingo: Story later, but short is find a Dominican for language immersion and get introduced to the mother at a time I would call too soon if it wasn't how every chica seems to operate here

mod6: and also, fwiw, that change did not make it into the normal v document. but did end up in the changes list in the email. i'll have to make a note to add that to the doc.

a111: Logged on 2017-03-14 04:35 mod6: <+mircea_popescu> i suppose alternatively could just say DO NOT PRESS TWICE! DELETE DIR BETWEEN PRESSES. << agree. there obviously needs to be a check in there - if the press directory already exists, warn the user and stop.

mod6: based upon some commentary (going by memory here) lead us to the decision to delete the press directory even if it existed and then create a new directory even with the same name and re-press. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-10#1768658 << i don[' get it, can't afford a directory ? or expect the directory be provided ? or what is the actual issue here ? ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-10#1768634 << not like "entirely and clearly wrong", but may be a tall milkglass to drink, this. ☝︎

asciilifeform: BigTexasBingo: you might want to store the benjies in a sealing, smellproof container, i think they can smell'em

BigTexasBingo: Story later, but short is find a Dominican for language immersion and get introduced to the mother at a time I would call too soon if it wasn't how every chica seems to operate here ☟︎

ben_vulpes: well share a story, BigTexasBingo

BigTexasBingo: Not just the locals, but a Dominican now too!

asciilifeform: prolly it oughta have a 'dir exists' eggog, rather than a delete

ben_vulpes: yes, one does not press a patch, one presses a tree.

from_ffa: so is it really necessary to nuke the dest dir when pressing a vpatch? :|

asciilifeform: think of it this way, would you rather converse with a person, or with a talking piece of pavement ?

from_ffa: t'was just in a hurry

from_ffa: I already did a few years back. and yes, the gpg key is at hand

asciilifeform: from_ffa: and please consider getting a name, and registering with deedbot,

from_ffa: have a q for mod6

from_ffa: a regular lurker of the chan. just started to muck around with your ffa series

ben_vulpes: inb4 "just a person"

ben_vulpes: Covale: tard alarms should have fired at unqualified use of "blockchain" as a noun

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ftr i think we're in the midst of a http://oglaf.com/humans for past wk or so

a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 16:54 mircea_popescu: an ideal pretending to be a real. and convincingly, it'd seem.

a111: Logged on 2017-05-15 01:15 mircea_popescu: gutenberg statistics ? 24 downloads for regrets sur ma vieille robe de chambre. in a fucking decade. because, of course, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-09#1653782

Covale: a stranger, pretty much. used to get on here every now and then years ago

asciilifeform: i gotta point out that the cost-of-ownership for even a centibitcoin , is not 0 either

asciilifeform: and it ain't a jagdtiger...

mircea_popescu: it's not a matter of the first, it's a matter of the 100thst.

a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 17:53 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the "social policy" argument discusses "people" as a statistical construct ; and it is entirely sunk by the pay-for-tits item, exactly like how darwinism ends creationism or qm ends nm.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-10#1768556 << there was some old essay , from early days of linux , re 'there once was the command line' or sumthinglikethat, that had a line 'you can give away free jagdtigers , and nobody will believe, no one will come for them, toogoodtobetrue' ☝︎

mircea_popescu: a

mircea_popescu: "maybe taleb has been on a monster bender since 2014, hasn't yet read it". etc.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the "social policy" argument discusses "people" as a statistical construct ; and it is entirely sunk by the pay-for-tits item, exactly like how darwinism ends creationism or qm ends nm. ☟︎

knubie: lmao, it's a good PR move for BTC...

mircea_popescu: shinohai pretty sure originally it was like a coin or somesuch, in 2014.

mircea_popescu: inb4 it's a scam chick, really accts manned by worthless 20something dudes, O NOES

mircea_popescu: make a penny at least.

shinohai: They have some chic in a chatbox on their website supposedly, imma link her to: http://trilema.com/2016/to-the-dao-and-the-ethereum-community-fuck-you/

asciilifeform: hey did mircea_popescu ever write a piece about 'collegism' and the prev ver of very similar scam in 18th c. poland ?

mircea_popescu: an ideal pretending to be a real. and convincingly, it'd seem. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: how is "you got a nutria sable hat" not similarly infective ?

asciilifeform: in that it is a resident infection in chump's head. rather than a 'nyahaha, i sold you a cutting board painted as ipad, and i'ma run faster than you can catch'

asciilifeform: i.e. every chump gets scammed for whatever pocket change he was going to spend on a flashlight that day

asciilifeform: it ain't a coin scam , it's an umpteenth shit chinesium comp peripheral

asciilifeform: i thought that was a 'store yer password in this-here magic thumbdrive' thing.

mircea_popescu: admitting anyone still thinks it's a thing

asciilifeform: considering that microscopy costs ~= toyota, a circus like that could easily carry on, 'under the radar', for several years.

asciilifeform: picture a chumpatron where 'you gotta have THIS here magic chip to mine...'

asciilifeform: didn't somebody do a hardware shitcoin? i.e. 'you must buy THIS box...'? or did i dream it.

asciilifeform: lol 'solidcoin' was a closed binturd?!

a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 01:23 mircea_popescu: a very strong ideal property of this is given in http://trilema.com/2014/the-romanian-language-for-other-people/#selection-245.1-238.5 ; which is a large part of the problem and also serves as illustration -- who the fuck knew that random whore story from 2014 is actually an expose on generative grammar.

asciilifeform: 'In next-generation crypto world there is no more need to use overpriced mining hardware, or take a loan to pay your electricity bill. There is much more efficient and eco friendly way to get FREE coins called STAKING. So you still helping the system verifying transactions and getting your free coins, while using just your personal laptop/ipad or a PC !'

a111: Logged on 2018-01-09 20:13 mircea_popescu: "# We use c=0.005 which has been experimentally found to be optimal in processing time for common PC under MS Windows and values of k of practical interest. A different c value may be desirable for use in different computing environments." << check it out asciilifeform ! IT IS SATOSHI ALL OVER AGAIN. why. WHY!!!

a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 16:26 shinohai: "Bitcoin Interest ("BCI") is a frictionless global payment system focusing on three key areas Technology, Community, and Savings. Our payment system has a new integrated savings technology that allows our users to park their coins and earn interest. "

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-10#1768427 << sounds like someone went on a dumpster rampage, rescued ye olde solidcoin ☝︎

asciilifeform: '...If I was to park 100 BCI coins for the entire duration of the round, and there were a total of 1000 BCI coins parked, then I would receive 10% of the interest pool...'

asciilifeform: this is a pretty lulzy crackpotism actually

shinohai: "Bitcoin Interest ("BCI") is a frictionless global payment system focusing on three key areas Technology, Community, and Savings. Our payment system has a new integrated savings technology that allows our users to park their coins and earn interest. " ☟︎

shinohai: "Bitcoin Candy (CDY) is a new chain forked from Bitcoin Cash at the height of 512666. The original BCH holders will be compensated with 1000 CDY for every BCH held. "

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'gcc' fork of gnat isn't even a gnu product in the usual sense. as far as i can tell , it is made lock stock and barrel of the adacore gnat , but with some dr.mengele treatments

asciilifeform: none of the extant systems , of ANY kind, have anything resembling a sane bootstrap process.

asciilifeform: ( can be made to work, with a week's worth of hand-holding, on a particular system, for some values of 'particular system' , then will break later when you step on a previously-unknown mine )

ave1: yes, I will make a write-up

mircea_popescu: (yes they have a cvasi-alphabet, but a) it has 500 "letters" or some shit and b) it was invented about at the same time as emacs split)

asciilifeform: ( recall what passed for a language there )

a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 14:28 mircea_popescu: better story, "dood took 80% pay cut trying to make a secure drop thing work ; failed because ustards are retarded ; naggumed self".

a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 14:24 mircea_popescu: "James’s encyclopedic knowledge of computer and network security was a key reason why newsrooms were comfortable adopting SecureDrop when it was still seen as something relatively new and unknown." what THE FUCK are we talking about, am i in some kind of reality distortion field ?

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-10#1768306 << it was a kind of tor, i.e. usg-engineered transparent 'tool for opposition' . d00d presumably was showing symptoms of blowing the idiocy up, got nailgunned. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-10 06:30 mircea_popescu: basically early google bubble "search", let's hack speech into a broken device that can only be used to communicate to those people we have nothing to say to.

knubie: shinohai, in a bit may need a hand to finish off from last night :P

shinohai: Maduro announced around Xmas they are making a altcorn "backed by oil, gas, gold and diamond reserves"

mircea_popescu: would have delivered much better results in 2018 than the path actually taken, 2), where assange sat in cramped ecuador embassy quarters for five years and got a ~toilet paper roll's worth of pompous "un declarations".

mircea_popescu: ie, between approach 1, where 2012 assange'd have told anders perkelev he's a retarded cuck and should be ashamed of himself in fromt of teh HD, ended up ~maybe~ convicted of the swedish equivalent of http://trilema.com/2011/americanii-au-disperata-nevoie-de-un-sut-in-cur/ and told same anders perkelev in 2015ish that a) he's still just as much of a retarded cuck as he was in 2012 and b) meanwhile he's also a retarded cuck wh

BingoBoingo: Only certain thing is that noone wants to be a goat at scaping time.

BingoBoingo: Hey, Elon Musk "lost" a DoD satellite according to widely reported rumours and innuendos. Let the ambiguity reign

mircea_popescu: invade. The government doesn't tolerate this, it doesn't turn a blind eye towards it, it explicitly allows it. The only thing it forbids is billing for a service not performed (e.g. ghost patient.)" and all that.

BingoBoingo: The sooner we cube the sun, strap it to a pallet and abscond the more time it will take the terrans to realize the TMSR was the alien invasion after all

mircea_popescu: well i dunno i can just add everything to opportunity cost, the fact that the sun's not a cube may overshadow all these considerations.