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asciilifeform: sad thing is, he kinda did
mircea_popescu: this, he never woke up to.
mircea_popescu: no, in orwells - that he is insufficient, and he is a representative memberf of an inssuficient generation.
asciilifeform: is this rather about whether fella has woken up to the salient fact of his time ?
mircea_popescu: it's just buying into this "being civilised means inhabiting the world of dreams"
mircea_popescu: being a vegetable is unrelated to any other measurable quality.
mircea_popescu: they're all vegetal. the smart and the dumb, the tall and the short, the ones with tits and the ones without
asciilifeform: how's that
mircea_popescu: the vegetable quality is a thing apart.
asciilifeform: mr orr doesn't look like the usual vegetable to me
asciilifeform: somehow i suspect that most of these people would give more of a fuck if the city phonebook (which no one i'm aware of uses for anything but kindling...) were to list a nigerian spammer's phone # instead of their own
asciilifeform: at some point one of them will read this log and write in
asciilifeform: unlike mircea_popescu, i do not presently believe that ~all~ of these folks have been shot with the stupid-cannon
asciilifeform: ^ exactly typical for the 'magic 98'
asciilifeform: (all this re: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-08-2015#1238611 ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: (who wants, can paste it into a python repl and hex(........) to see what i mean)
asciilifeform: it, too, is 'magical'
asciilifeform: andrew@andreworr.ca is pretty typical, apparently, '32-bit mirror slider'
asciilifeform: (the latter pretty much never gets more than a dozen connections at one time)
jurov: back then there wan no statjson
mircea_popescu: i feel like, sensibly, palpably smarter today.
asciilifeform: 'unix philosophy' had an actual meaning at one point, and was a very promising thing
assbot: Logged on 15-08-2015 18:01:27; *: mircea_popescu contemplates the strange notion that every time he included hashes in stream he was actually doing the wrong thing.
BingoBoingo though MP may have been doing math related to producing a lucite cast of Obola's recutm to place in the Hearnia's urinary bladder
mircea_popescu: but it may be that lisp is not actually useful in practice!11111!!1
mircea_popescu: how any lisper can keep away from it is anyone's guess by this point.
asciilifeform: in the old world of games where the authors gave a shit
asciilifeform: really represents all that was lost
asciilifeform: my link has the w4r3z iirc
asciilifeform: jurov: the de one appears to be different item ?
jurov: trying to find it
jurov: http://www.amazon.de/bhv-Distribution-Edna-bricht-aus/dp/3828761631 but to german?
asciilifeform: not even to ru.
asciilifeform: so it was never translated.
asciilifeform: witch, vaguely babayaga-like, walks around collecting clues re: where to find ingredients for revenge potion against the king (who banished her). most of the dialogue is in rhyme
asciilifeform: beautiful thing
asciilifeform: speaking of czech language, has jurov ever played the most famous msdos adventure game of his country, 'edna' ?
mircea_popescu contemplates the strange notion that every time he included hashes in stream he was actually doing the wrong thing. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: fear the power of the cult. the deepest errors can survive all of five minutes in the charged atmosphere.
mircea_popescu: which also happens to be the right thing, incidentally.
mircea_popescu: whereas i for a very long time have held the firm "fuck you, the text i write, i write with no consideration as to what you might misunderstand of it"
assbot: Logged on 04-06-2014 00:08:26; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thought it was about http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-06-2014#700916 ☝︎
assbot: Fefeleaga. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Wtskbl )
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/fefeleaga/#comment-115043 << see, now i can't see this in any other terms than, "ended up caring about insides"
asciilifeform: this one's a '3-pipe case', in the words of sherlock holms
mircea_popescu: but it is apparent, from the apoplectic reactions, and glaring when you look at the shards together, that the same jerking around is both behind the openbsd story and the pgp story.
asciilifeform looks forward to reading
mircea_popescu: i think im going to translate an ancient romanian article, i can not begin to believe how fucking apt it is. i thoight it was purely a romanian thing.
asciilifeform: gonna take a while, this sawing
asciilifeform: jurov: now i have to solve the problem. like i solved others before. but this one's gonna take some time, it isn't a nice clean shot in the head, but more of a slow isis beheading
asciilifeform: fuck that.
asciilifeform: now you have to CARE ABOUT THE INSIDES ☟︎
asciilifeform: the pgp signature thing is fucktarded, can't believe for how long we've put up with it
jurov: patch | tail -n +1 | sha512sum
asciilifeform: jurov: i get to checksum a patch by patch | sha512sum or basta.
jurov: i don't get it too
jurov: asciilifeform: yo want to stream pgp signed stuff_
asciilifeform: not without a much better reason than 'pgp breathes through its mouth'
mircea_popescu: ima have to meditate on this.
asciilifeform: if you want to break this, you get 100x the code and the gnomes.
asciilifeform: can treat as stream
mircea_popescu: or must have tcp packets and udp checksums separate ?
asciilifeform: all modern phone networks actually do this.
mircea_popescu: so by this theory, we should have one phone network for the network and another phone network for the control codes ?
asciilifeform: now you can't sha512sum on the file, have to put it through a cutter
asciilifeform: because what you end up with is two files who are somehow trying to sit in one chair
mircea_popescu: so i can't include a hash of the document i nthe document.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ^ hearn unzips and begins << So begins project Scott Tenorman
mircea_popescu: a checksum's not a bad idea, why do you think it is a bad idea ?
mircea_popescu: looky : when i signed a piece of paper i nulled out the empty spaces.
asciilifeform: with 'escaped dashes', the whole shit soup?
asciilifeform: of the doc!!?!??!!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hash in the doc is not a bad idea, eh ?
mircea_popescu: which, yes, it's a great thing for teh free world.
mircea_popescu: you can admire all the extra bezzle it forced microsoft & all to expend.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin changes everything, of course, and outside the heaped plate of humilation lasagna it allowed me to forcefeed bob beck,
mircea_popescu: incidentally, re <BingoBoingo> shinohai: I personally think this is the same process that slowly lead even Thermos to denounce Gavin, just... once enough time had passed to make MP espoused sanity seem original to the uninitiated <<< do not imagine that ms, yandex et all did not know same things i know. obviously trhey do, but they also had hoped they're somehow favoured sons. because "Terrorists will never do that, tr
assbot: Logged on 26-06-2015 22:59:59; jurov: mod6 they append date and whatnot to data prior to hashing anyway
jurov: or do the same as with diff - add hash of content into every clearsigned doc
mircea_popescu: we sadly have been overtaken by events in this point. i'd have much preferred to start work on this after the decanter work for "new pgp" was done.
mircea_popescu: ah that's nonsense.
asciilifeform: it is possible if one does something jurovish and requires, e.g., sigs to include what they are sigs for in the filename or the like
mircea_popescu: wait. for every patch in the line, right ?
mircea_popescu: why do you think this is possible and if you have any reason to think so why aren't you fixing bitcoin then
asciilifeform currently racking brain over how to make the thing verify in better than O(N^2)
mircea_popescu: "signatures offer the means to meaning, and for they who can listen, the enunciation of truth."
mircea_popescu: a better name could not be had, for what this thing is and does.
mircea_popescu really likes the name V
asciilifeform: mod6: nice script and it will do until i'm done with the actual mechanism
mircea_popescu: but it's on teh list, it'll get done eventually, an' i know people have a habit to prevaricate.
asciilifeform: or not. i think i got what i needed
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if not urgent, leave it up till monday night
mircea_popescu: incidentally, jurov and anyone else who might care : i will be wiping the archive of that hacker team thing. if you want copies of anything etc get it now.
asciilifeform: there's another but i gotta travel to a somewhat distant place to plug the bugger in
mircea_popescu: time to put up some more nodes huh ?
asciilifeform: meanwhile my nodez are running hotter than ever
mircea_popescu: "oh this failed project is so exciting - look, it even overtook last quarter's failed project on the failed projects list!!11"
mircea_popescu: anyway. nobody cares. in the most literal sense of that word.
mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/user/Peter__R << some tard that economizes on copy.