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danielpbarron: wasn't implying advanced vs basic
nubbins`: besides, i didn't quote you without context, i *misquoted* you in the *midst* of context. jeez.
nubbins`: danielpbarron your logic doesn't follow, again
nubbins`: i thought you didn't like me anymore
punkman: anyway, doesn't hurt to come up with a pricetag. who knows maybe the satoshi hoard might move this year. ☟︎
danielpbarron: asciilifeform> the 'reddit appeal' of what we do << i didn't mean reaching out any further than in this very channel
asciilifeform: just liek many other things, won't be happening.
asciilifeform: so it ain't happening.
asciilifeform: but re: the sommelier thing, i would happily supply folks with sane hardware, but this would 1) take serious time & effort while 2) wouldn't pay my billz
asciilifeform: notice how mircea_popescu pointedly also doesn't ?
asciilifeform: and don't recommend to others to do it!
asciilifeform: i don't buy whole computer (other than portables, for restricted uses)
asciilifeform: aha but i didn't buy it!
danielpbarron: although without a bitcoin i don't have much interest in computer parts anyway, so that's a catch-22
asciilifeform doesn't expect to get to eat lsd in his natural lifespam, just as doesn't expect a real tailored suit or to sail on a dirigible ☟︎
asciilifeform: it would, i suspect, take me 1/2 y to 1y of UNINTERRUPTED full time to come up with the goods. which pointedly isn't in any danger of happening.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1428461 << guess what ~i personally won't ever be caught dead doing~ ??? ☝︎
danielpbarron: glad i didn't bet
fluffypony: and I asked them why they were building on Ethereum, and despite much hand-waving they couldn't give me an actual reason
shinohai: Plenty of discussion here. When there isn't, there is a plethora of information in the logs.
gernika: oh yeah - wasn't clear to me how to plug the thing in
gernika: ok. bleh. one more laptop laying around the house couldn't hurt I guess.
asciilifeform: ( mircea_popescu , who doesn't hire anyone but plumbers, does not for this purpose count )
mircea_popescu: that seems workable on the surface - until you realise that the one thing being here promises is that those people won't generally WANT to work for $cubefarm.
mircea_popescu: when s.mg needed a tech hand diana_coman got it ; the job wasn't on the market nor would s.mg have continued had the job had to go to the market.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony tbh i did spend some time thinking about it - then. i don't see how what he was trying to do could have worked. why the everloving would someone here eschew the benefit of the wot and "hire someone to hire" for you ?
mircea_popescu: a while back, yeah. don't think it worked out too well in the end.
fluffypony: wasn't he the headhunter trying to hire staff for everyone?
mircea_popescu: shinohai i guess "community organizing" doesn't pay as well as one'd have expected or w/e.
mircea_popescu: well cuz you don't like people.
asciilifeform: and if not this, then i prolly don't even rightfully apprehend what mircea_popescu had in mind
mircea_popescu: "find the children that, on their own strength, may see through the idiocy and give them really heavy stones to lift so they don't".
mircea_popescu: anyway, while we differ on what we color iq-ism in, or what you eventually expect it to do, i don't think there's actual disagreement as to what it does.
asciilifeform: it isn't a breakage. iq does not test the 'rng' (eysenck's 'psychoticism')
asciilifeform: and in the latter case - don't
mircea_popescu: the general complexity of the cell is perhaps the chief lie of popular conception of biology. "oh yeah, nucleus, cytoplasm, yeah i recall". you recall my left foot. golgi apparatus. a whole set of vacuoles. the nucleus has a membrane in layers. there's dozens of different items in there we don't even fully enumerate - and your understanding isn't good enough to stand for the mithocondria, which, incidentally, also has
mircea_popescu: what 'explain' ? there aren't the terms in which the explanation would be made.
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2016 16:31:18; trinque: I have a friend in prosthetics who once explained at length to me that the brain doesn't begin knowing how to see, smell, etc
BingoBoingo: Can't have nice things
mircea_popescu: didn't they drink it in cool-aid w/e ?
mircea_popescu: 18* adlai wonders whether the low price tag of responsible disclosure stems from the glass cannon nature << doesn't seem glass cannon-y at all, with any patience you could have hijacked some "notable" accounts made them do some funky shit.
thestringpuller: you don't put wp-admin behind firewall?
thestringpuller: but then again if aliens come down and deliver us philosopher stone that t
mircea_popescu: no, we can't have peace with the bourgeois still around. burn them.
mircea_popescu: what else is "flashed in bios" ? don't whip the wife ? bow before government ?
mircea_popescu: we didn't know that "surrender" would be an acceptable end.
thestringpuller: well i was more under the assumption philosopher stone of AI (a sorta Star Trek TNG "Data") doesn't currently have a means of existing
mircea_popescu: a young consumation girl [ie, whore], otherwise clever and vivacious, receiving some caviar aside the mug of vodka, proceeded to explain some matters t ome.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: perhaps different outlook, knowing you can't emulate human mind on current machines. perhaps the only way to "true AI" is some cyborg thing of a brain plugged up to machinery...
BingoBoingo: <danielpbarron> i didn't really design that. was just the default theme for the latest wordpress << Fing and play with toolbox, and by play with I mean delete shit and make it more minimalist. Do leave the screenreader stuff in and if possibru improve it.
mircea_popescu: so it... wasn't pm ? :D
trinque: the above doesn't seem to bode well for having a model of cognition any time soon
trinque: I have a friend in prosthetics who once explained at length to me that the brain doesn't begin knowing how to see, smell, etc ☟︎
thestringpuller: the most interesting developments won't exist until neuro-interfaces exist.
thestringpuller: I really don't think you can actually decipher the nature of 'real thought' on current hardware. AI will always be an emulation of the authentic thing.
mircea_popescu: well this is sad, i can't fucking find it, half hour later.
danielpbarron: i seriously considered the all txt files option, but figured it wouldn't work well with allowing comments
danielpbarron: i didn't really design that. was just the default theme for the latest wordpress
mircea_popescu: bbl, redoing this wake-up thing, apparently it didn't happen fully.
mircea_popescu: whereas before it "didn't".
mircea_popescu: mircea_popescu> and more importantly, because once expressed the current situation becomes tolerable << INtolerable, obviously. and in all fields. much like a smoky kitchen wall is tolerable for just as long as you don't see any actual white stuff for contrast. but bring in a new stove, suddenly the wall needs a paintjob too.
asciilifeform: 3 is not a solution if you don't give a fuck about 'next generation' and would rather experience some sanity yourself, or die trying
mircea_popescu: which is what, in any proper sense of the term, "bitcoin" and "crypto" even mean. not fucking pgp as seen by the zimmerman that "oh i don't even have the key anymore"
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2016#1427755 << 'don't love anything - it could die' ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2016 13:26:24; nubbins`: more like "case 2: the shop pays a cleaner once a month to clean rugs. random asshole thought the rug cleaners weren't coming so he paid a second rug cleaning service to clean the rugs. then the regular rug cleaners came and cleaned the rug again. then random asshole tries to bill the shop for a needless rug cleaning that he ordered himself"
nubbins`: more like "case 2: the shop pays a cleaner once a month to clean rugs. random asshole thought the rug cleaners weren't coming so he paid a second rug cleaning service to clean the rugs. then the regular rug cleaners came and cleaned the rug again. then random asshole tries to bill the shop for a needless rug cleaning that he ordered himself" ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the folks who work on bots, largely don't play (with any degree of seriousness)
mircea_popescu: "I was very surprised," said Lee after the match. "I didn't expect to lose. I didn't think AlphaGo would play the game in such a perfect manner.
fluffypony: I generally agree with the "don't be a giant douchenozzle" principle, and as long as employees are operating in any capacity representing one of my companies they don't have permission to be a giant douchenozzle on my behalf (what they do in their own time and of their own volition I don't care about)
trinque: I haven't. doesn't that send change back to some other address which is part of the "account" ?
trinque: I also had to lower a constant which didn't seem worth its own vpatch
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BingoBoingo: I didn't look into it that far.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform alphago can't play, for srsly.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> and whats with the derps walking hunched in front of the camera << It's a common reflex among people who don't grok how cameras work in relation to their body.
mircea_popescu: i'm kinda surprised they didn't brand the table.
adlai: "it's numbers that i don't really understand. it's just really large numbers"
nubbins`: she didn't say "failing to use tx fees for an output with only X confirmations is mooching"
nubbins`: danielpbarron her statement doesn't contain the qualifiers you mention -- by my understanding of english syntax, she's making a blanket statement.
danielpbarron: the two situations aren't really comparable; in the case to which she was referring, the 0-fee transaction was spending an output that only had 162 confirmations, several thousand less than the youngest output spent in the now infamous 'A1'
nubbins`: At any rate, this isn't a chastisement. If you fuck up to this degree, you're stuck having fucked up.
nubbins`: also from the mouth of hanbot: "You weren't caught in some occult and unknowable coincidence that was out of your hands. You either didn't make sure you understood the basics of using bitcoin, or else you decided not to care. In either case, it is you that will have to adjust (and I do earnestly hope that you do; there are a lot of resources on this very forum, on IRC, and around the web that can help)."
asciilifeform: you haven't seen the post in my town...
hanbot: BingoBoingo shit apparently doesn't change much.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Do you have anything in particular that you would care to see translated, ideally something that isn't literal poetry? Yeah I've only just started picking RO up, so it would probably be a slow process..
mircea_popescu: the whole incident is certainly a fine example of why b-a and the world generally can't work as a "mp supported" thing. gotta be very expensive to be a lord, or else self-flattery is much to powerful a force.
mircea_popescu: he sat in the chan counting his bellybutton lint for years, making inept arguments about pointless shit - he lost all of them, but hey, as long as mp doesn't come straight out with "you're stupid, go back to school" one needn't notice this actually happened, can just as well pretend that blabla.
assbot: Logged on 08-03-2016 19:16:32; PeterL: and it is what, 10 lines if you don't count nubbins` ? that does not seem very lengthy
nubbins`: why don't they meet to institute an idiot harvest instead?
nubbins`: also, if you don't send me address for these shirts, i'm sending them to real nsa w/ your name on box 8)
nubbins`: i didn't say "for surprise"
nubbins`: doesn't make em shiny
williamdunne: nubbins`: tbf while using the company wallet might be a bad habit, I don't think its an issue in itself, although reading through the logs it seems everything has gone to shit
davout: nubbins`: i fail to see how (b) implies (c), I can perfectly have an account on my own exchange, can't I?
danielpbarron: even if all the addresses were emptied to 1bitcoineater it wouldn't matter.
solrodar: that isn't necessarily fraudulent, as long as everything's properly accounted for
williamdunne: Yeah the only one I didn't read seemingly
nubbins`: ben_vouspes i can't see any other explanation. mircea_popescu claimed ownership of B's inputs, and they came from MPEx. Best-case scenario, mircea_popescu legitimately received the funds from MPEx and paid the bettors out of pocket. Worse-case scenario, he paid the bettors directly with MPEx funds.
williamdunne: danielpbarron: the part of life I wouldn't talk in public
williamdunne: Difficulty in my personal life, nothing I couldn't recover from (obviously(