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mircea_popescu: competent
thieves should be convicted
to jail. incompetent
thieves should be broken apart with a small hammer.
mircea_popescu expects
to live in a world where everything is done EXACTLY as he would do it. failure of perceptible world
to conform
to
this expectation is a crime, more serious
than any other, and
to be punished by destruction.
punkman: asciilifeform: so... no, it's not
THAT bad.
mircea_popescu: The concatenation of
the data being signed and
the signature data from
the version number
through
the hashed subpacket data (inclusive) is hashed.
The resulting hash value is what is signed.
The left 16 bits of
the hash are included in
the Signature packet
to provide a quick
test
to reject some invalid signatures.
punkman: "The concatenation of
the data being signed and
the signature data from
the version number
through
the hashed subpacket data (inclusive) is hashed.
The resulting hash value is what is signed.
The left 16 bits of
the hash are included in
the Signature packet
to provide a quick
test
to reject some invalid signatures."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i guess by being spurred by my recent statement and going into a "let's verify
this" mode ?
mircea_popescu: i guess
the next
top priority in making cardano which was making bitcoin which was making vdiff is now making gpg.
mircea_popescu: 1. full rsa. 2. proper signature encapsulation. 3. sane structuring of
the keys. 4. etfc.
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 23:09:56; mircea_popescu: fucking abcnews.
the defense didn't "decline
to do so".
the defense DECLINED
TO RECOGNISE
THE COURT!
mircea_popescu: deep restructuring of
the pgp implementation is required anyway.
mircea_popescu: if
the signed
thing is not a
thing, or if
the signed
thing is not available fgor my eyes, no problem has in fact been solved.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the concept of me being able
to read
the singed
thing with my eyes is not broken.
punkman: "oh yeah let's be compatible
to PGP 4, because
that matters"
punkman: also, if have some automated system
that works with gpg messages and you aren't running one of
the latest 1.* version, messages can be crafted
that will DoS/hang your system
assbot: All of
the Nopes: "There is no such
thing as
the crime of 'rape'" and
that's arguably not
the worst part : againstmensrights ... (
http://bit.ly/1JmXd7o )
punkman: the worst
thing off
the
top of my head is
the lack of a full fingerprint in signed message
punkman: clearsigning mostly works.
the problem is everything else
the clearsigned message will pass
through.
jurov: and least derpy of
them
jurov: mostly cuz it was on rtl2 when we had
tv allowed
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 22:06:28; ascii_field: punkman: didja miss all
the 'clearsigning is retardedly broken'
threads ?
mircea_popescu: mats obama's only actual initiative. fucked in
the ass.
mircea_popescu: The rest of us who actually make shit happen in
the front lines of consensus back on planet earth will continue
to be unaffected by your efforts apart from
their modest value as chuckle fuel over beers and sushi."
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "Welcome, kiddo,
to how
the real world works. You go ahead and place your crazy protest bids way off in
the bottom of
the sociological order book and scream
that someday, SOMEDAY,
the market will come down
to meet you, and you will be vindicated.
☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: lol buttcoin engaging danielpbarron over gpg etc was pretty lulzy
to read.
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 20:57:09; cazalla: "We are going
to have
taxation officials
travel around
the world visiting
these companies asking
them
to register for GST purposes," federal
Treasurer Joe Hockey said.
mircea_popescu: fucking abcnews.
the defense didn't "decline
to do so".
the defense DECLINED
TO RECOGNISE
THE COURT!
☟︎ mircea_popescu: oh never mind, my bad.
they held silence in protest over jurisdiction.
mircea_popescu: since when
the fuck do defense lawyers have agency in court.
mircea_popescu: "A Wisconsin court
today entered not guilty pleas on behalf of
the
two
teen defendants in
the "Slender Man" stabbing case after
their lawyers declined
to do so."
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 19:01:28;
trinque: and I
think I'll continue
to just make all
the decisions rather
than offer options, and
then describe how one might proceed from
there on
their own, if
they so desire
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 18:46:15; phf: i use
to like vice do's&don't's,
they were mean and funny. i always
thought vice was magazine version of
the whole
terry richardson, merlin bronques "glam
trash" photography, but
that was still cool in 2004-2006. i guess it would make sense
that
they would be faux edgy
tech articles, no better or worse
then any other online rag, but i can't get over
the image of hipsters on heroin writing
that shit
cazalla: cop a flogging for having x-men
trading cards but smashing windows in construction sites got a pass, i swear my old man liked
to keep us walking around on egg shells
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 22:01:13; danielpbarron: and I "wasn't allowed"
to watch ren and stimpy (had
to sneak it)
ascii_field: mod6: from here on, everyone who carries out a vdiff on
the same inputs shall get
the same output.
mod6: Alright, lemme fireup
the ole gpg-o-matic.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski he's more
then welcome
to read
the logs.
pete_dushenski: hearn spills guts : "i would actually like
to see less consensus in bitcoin development and more authoritarianism"
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> yeah, mod you have
teh honor. <<
thanks. I've confirmed
that what I get from genesis.vpatch out of
thin air is
the same manifest as `bitcoin-0.5.3-no-crud.sha256.manifest`.
ascii_field: ;;later
tell jurov can we PLEASE dispense with
the mutilated filenames ?!
ascii_field: on
this
topic as on any other, is absolutely indubitable.
The proposition
that
the sum
total of what came before can be compared with
this particular advance is strictly ridiculous.' << mega-summary, quoted here for logz readers
ascii_field: change
the V-genesis introduced is exactly like
the move from understanding and controlling movement in
terms of mass and somewhat velocity, such as it occurs in
the mind of a monkey
throwing rocks,
to understanding and controlling movement in
terms of mass, impulse and energy, such as it occurs in
the launching of satellites.
The proposition
that
there is still room for improvement in
the endless march of human
thought,
ascii_field: 'For
the first
time in
the century or so of history of
this particular human endeavour,
text was deliberately structured with due consideration given not only
to its meaning, but also
to its source, and
to its context. Prior attempts at structuring software, at first consisting of a naive approach focused on meaning only, over
time added a half-hearted consideration of context, very unequally and rather haphazardly.
The
ascii_field: just re-create
the genesis by
the new recipe
ascii_field: we'll need
to do
this again. starting with me, optionally
ascii_field glad
that mircea_popescu liked
the concept, but noticed
that he signed
the old patch
mircea_popescu: it's really painless, once one's clear on
the process.
phf: amusingly i
tried looking for plan9's diff for some insight.
they use a ported gnu version.
trinque: so every single piece of open source is compromized
to
the degree it was ever used at all
trinque: and nothing focuses
them coherently
trinque: I was about
to discuss
that aspect; it's not
that no one cares about diff; it's
that everyone has conflicting reasons for caring
jurov: i can imagine someone fearing
their job if diff isn't locale-aware
trinque: who will lose his job (or life) if diff fails
to work?
trinque: I
think it's becoming clear
that as mentioned already, none of
this shit was ever used in battle.
ascii_field: i mean, i can maybe see a case where
this is strategically necessary