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mircea_popescu: does not even agree with "tards"
to any degree. yes
they sound like monkeys.
this is not retarded for
their age, healthy 17 yo boys sound like
that.
mircea_popescu: see,
these kids is
the fundamental reason a) ru young women are well fucked (well means more
than just a lot) and b)
the chechens aren't isis.
mircea_popescu: 325 views ? "obligatory" ? is
this like... made by your gf's younger brother or something ? howdja find it
mircea_popescu: yes,
they were on my feet.
they have cells descuamated off me even.
mircea_popescu: and whjen
they gave up
their random approach,
they came up with
the kv, an overengineered useless pos.
mircea_popescu: on
the practical side,
they both WORKED, if one's
tolerant with
the concept. soviet law maintained order in a larger
thing
than
the us, better
than
the us managed.
mircea_popescu: they're both equally ridiculous
things, for
the same exact reason : made "as best we could" by
the russians of
the
time, who were peasants not lawmakers or
tank makers.
they have all
the qualities of chinese farm steel.
mircea_popescu: for one
thing, no opium smoker bangs 30 women a day even for
two days straight,
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 see "la
terra
trema".
think
that
the film was made in
the 1950s by using RANDOM LOCALS
mircea_popescu: wheresoever
that place is, whosoever sits in it, has
the same
twin problem no matter what.
mircea_popescu: well look, you agree with
the broad idea
that no man made
thing may endure without a place
the buck stops ?
mircea_popescu: this does not at all
translate into civil and criminal
mircea_popescu: but you're familiar with
the roman, and originally greek notions of "broke
the laws of men and gods" yes ?
mircea_popescu: you do
this because you don't recognise
the fundamental
tension, and so examples in one line cloud your estimation of
the other.
mircea_popescu: roman practice suffered
the
tension, but also made it amply abundant
mircea_popescu: the other's a more fundamental
type of dispute, you could stilisize as "between man and god".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes. vaguely speaking, one's a contest among
the crowd of boys. "everyone wants
to be
the one at
the wheel, so who shall ?"
mircea_popescu: but honestly, Visconti is probably
the best dirctor
that ever lived.
mircea_popescu: or how shall i put
this,
there are
two
types of question justice answers.
mircea_popescu: you have a strange equivocation of power an' legitimacy going on
there, asciilifeform
ag3nt_zer0: and Irving and Elmyr are quite
the characters haha
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 03:29:02; mircea_popescu: making money is a purely ~political~ function. if you are among
the favoured elite of
the respublica veneta, you
then may invest in
the ships, and make a profit. if not, not.
ag3nt_zer0: ok, don't really have an opinion on him myself, but I
thought
that film was quite entertaining... like a cinematic hall of mirrors or something
assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 19:30:03; mircea_popescu:
the merit of a pgp signature is
that it delivers
them from having
to do
this.
ag3nt_zer0: of irony, de Hory's interviewer is author Clifford Irving, who became infamous due
to a forgery of his own: a falsified autobiography of Howard Hughes. Welles openly re-edits and manipulates
this footage, using it as a spine for his own commentary, arguing
that
there is an extremely close relationship between art and lying, and citing instances from his own career
to prove
the point."
ag3nt_zer0: "The final directorial project
the legendary Orson Welles completed during his lifetime, F for Fake is less a documentary
than an example of cinematic free association on
the
topic of
trickery. Much of
the film is in fact drawn from other sources, most notably an unfinished documentary by Francois Reichenbach on
the notorious Elmyr de Hory, whose extremely skillful forgeries of famous paintings caused scandals amongst art
mircea_popescu: nonono.
there is such a
thing as "identify
typewriter"
mircea_popescu: do not
think
that
the intelligent people caught like bubbles in
the fiat mire are happy
to be
there.
mircea_popescu: the merit of a pgp signature is
that it delivers
them from having
to do
this.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: check
these people out,
they have fine art authorship grading down
to a fine art!
mircea_popescu: Giovanni Bellini means
that in
their opinion,
this is a work in
the style of Bellini and of a later date. vii) After Giovanni Bellini means
that in
their opinion,
this is a copy of a known work of Bellini.
mircea_popescu: k by an as yet unidentified but distinct hand, closely associated with Bellini but not necessarily his pupil. v) Style/Follower of Giovanni Bellini means
that, in
their opinion,
this is a work by a painter working in Bellini's style, contemporary or nearly contemporary, but not necessarily his pupil. ‘Contemporary or nearly contemporary' means
that it was painted within about 50 years of Bellini's work. vi) Manner of
mircea_popescu: Bellini means
that, in Sotheby's opinion,
this is probably a work by Bellini, but
there is less certainty expressed as
to authorship
than in
the preceding category. iii) Studio of Giovanni Bellini means
that, in
their opinion,
this is a work by an unknown hand in
the studio of Bellini, and it may or may not have been executed under his direction. iv) Circle of Giovanni Bellini means
that, in
their opinion, it is a wor
mircea_popescu: For every auction sale, a catalogue is produced describing each painting
to be sold. Every entry indicates
the certainty with which Sotheby's is prepared
to attribute it
to a particular artist.
The catalogue entry may describe a painting in
the following ways: i) Simply putting
the name of
the artist, for example, ‘Giovanni Bellini,' means
that, in Sotheby's opinion,
the work is by Bellini. ii) Attributed
to Giovanni
assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 13:05:58; punkman: "before he resigned from
the library he realized
that his
trick had occurred
to someone else. Several of
the paintings he made had been replaced, his copies stolen. So
the Academy was exhibiting fakes of fakes and someone was selling, or
trying
to sell, art by Xiao."
mod6: good deal. i'll see what I can do about
the mechanical checking and rebasing maybe later
tonight, or
tomorrow for sure.
mod6: yup yup, i recall. just
trying
to make sure i'm on
the right
track so i don't waste everyones
time :]
mircea_popescu: it's not really hard
to make, need pot with water and coarse ground corn. and a woman
that knows how long
to boil it and what proportions.
mircea_popescu: perhaps
the only
time romania's ww1 peculiar dish was eaten here
this millenium
mircea_popescu: no i mean,
the common, standard foodl. regarded as ideal by
the village prisoners.
mircea_popescu: "no, i dont
think
they were
townpeople [ie idiots] because when sitting
to repast
they
took out mamaliga cu brinza like normal pewople]
mircea_popescu: incidentally, isn't
this also strictly wrong ? wasn't it
the case
that
the whole village ate ~the exact same dish~ every day forever ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have nfi why you
think 'in savour or hue, no comrades have you' better
than "in color or
taste
there's no comrades"
mircea_popescu: "oh, but we already do guilt and innocence, which are ALSO
transcendents"
mircea_popescu: rank fucking nonsense. it should be clearly obvious
this is not something
the court can do.
mircea_popescu: And
then, when
the experts have come
to
their conclusion, and
that conclusion is challenged in court, (as opposed
to
the marketplace or in critical writing), a judge must decide
that
the experts were right or wrong.
mircea_popescu: ely almost entirely on expert opinion concerning
the quality of
the art,
that is
to say, is
the quality of
the art being examined of
the quality expected of a painting by
the artist—in
this case, Caravaggio.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: Authenticating a work of art is often difficult, and more difficult when
the art is four or five hundred years old, and at least one
tool for
the expert,
to wit, provenance, is often limited or non-existent. And, science (materials analysis) does not get us very far since many of
the problems for Old Masters come right out of
the artist's studio (think Rembrandt).
Thus, for Old Masters at least,
the expert is left
to r
mircea_popescu: great idea, great painting, why does
the woman's face look like it was peeled off asphalt pizza