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assbot: Logged on 03-02-2015 22:35:01; asciilifeform: 'mr x, you're a registered pauper, but is
that a first class air
ticket you're holding? where'dyagetthat'
mircea_popescu: now suppose i "own"
the same, "in
the family", but my family is a bunch of poor peasants from honduras.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: except
this "through family" claim is documented
through five different
testations, and it so happens
that my uncle was a picasso expert who wrote extensively of
this picasso work his brother owned.
mircea_popescu: suppose i have a work picasso himself signed with
the
title "stanislav's
teapot shaped head"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you understand what i mean by "in
the wot" in
that context ?
mircea_popescu: so i do not credit it nearly as much as you
two seem
to.
mircea_popescu: somehow never is anyone in
that family someone with a registered key.
mircea_popescu: phf "passed
through family" in
that context is always a miserable cop out.
mircea_popescu: and
they are responsible and shall hang for
the decisions
they didn't make.
mircea_popescu: understand : we have
the liberty
to decide
tomorrow
that gavin was right. or
that bitcoin is stupid. or
that whatever else. all
this because liberty AT ALL.
phf: (was it in
the logs, guy brings authentic X "passed
through family", gets accused of stealing, because "you're poor, so can't possibly have X")
mircea_popescu: and
the german uprisings during calvin before
that. and so on.
mircea_popescu: haha, someone
took
them off
the leash. ww2
took
them off
the leash./
mircea_popescu: they are punishing me, see, like
they punished
the gold standard. in
their own heads.
mircea_popescu: exactly like
they go "oh, why should i read
trilema if
trilema says i'm broken"
mircea_popescu: who went by
the "why should something be a standard if what it says is, we don't get any and stfu"
mircea_popescu: only i have
the privilege
to stand up here and say something of
the kind. because i'm part of a fucking republic.
mircea_popescu: hitler could have
took a stand in 1940 against antisemitism!
mircea_popescu: not by
the enemy, but by
the kulaks behind enemy lines.
mircea_popescu: so in plain point of fact "the guy would have gotten more in
the alternative world" bla bla bla.
mircea_popescu: their" "dollars"
to buy from mcdonalds and zara. money only means money in
the hands of
the people who can use it independently, and what someone with
tens of millions
to his name was in 1995, is what someone wit ha billion
to his name
today. i'd know.)
mircea_popescu: anyway,
the main problem with
that art ruling
thing, getting back
to it, is
that revisionism in inflation is a bitch. specifically,
that sale was in 2006, before
the first bout of "quantitative easing". most art of all description sells
today for 10x
to 100x what it did
two decades ago, simply because dollars
today, and euros
today, are scarcely worth 10 cents. (no,
this does not mean nothing
to
the slaves
that spend "
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform come
to
think of it - he has a deeply unwarranted sense of superiority over shaw. easily
the most important
thinker of
the period in all
the english speaking lands.
mircea_popescu: (for
the younger log reader, "two-and-sixpence" is not random, but a century ago made half a crown. it is used in a sense similar
to "too clever by half", because
that's really what half a crown is. worse
than either a whole crown or no crown at all. at least in
the context of
this discussion)
mircea_popescu: everyone in
this country got nothing but "trabajador" in his mouth, and no one's done an honest stitch of work since 1924
mircea_popescu: the "Worker's party" of stupid people and lazy people who figure hey, if worker's in
the
title above
the door work does itself somehow
mircea_popescu: and i meant in
the more homely sense, socialist-books and socialist-philosophy and what have you. not socialist-economy.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and btw,
thinking about it - i now realise visconti,
the son of
the duke visconti no less, actually is
the one example of resistence
through culture known. his
terra
trema was paid for by
the communist party. and in it he delivers such a
trashing
to
the pious frauds of
the communists as has never before seen.
mircea_popescu: that part i wasnt even discussing,
the "economic" side so
to speak. yes, moist people are dumb and industry has no need of
them, so from
their perspertive industry's run by aliens. fine.
mircea_popescu: every fucking year you get at least one of
the imbecile "why should i have
to
take an exam".
mircea_popescu: which is why i say socialism is for stupid people and
the mark of
their stupidity.
mircea_popescu: so it can. except
the individual has
the valid excuse of
the sexual imperative
mircea_popescu: "So perverse is mankind
that every nationality prefers
to be misgoverned by its own people
than
to be well ruled by another."
mircea_popescu: and
the poor array of
the marbles in his head's his problem.
mircea_popescu: a) never was
this nailed, anymore
than
the sun rising is "nailed".
mircea_popescu: yes
the bridge is falling whether 5yo cheers it on or not.
mircea_popescu: down with
the shackles of
this evil british empire of
the blips which nevertheless creates
the sort of people i like, even if i'm not actuaslly good enough
to do anything in support. let's build utopia.
mircea_popescu: the
thief also learns from
the dubious mistake of having been caught.
mircea_popescu: no matter! we "learn from mistakes", ie, claim
that "socialism wasn't actually
tried" and
try again.
the same
thing.
this
time, we're printing people.,
mircea_popescu: what, you can't just print more money and
the expectation
to
the contrary sinks early sopcialism ?
mircea_popescu: yes. because he was a socialist, which is
to say an idiot, and expected socialism, which always is "externalise costs"
to be able
to do so forever.
mircea_popescu: why ? why, because
the redditar of 1600
thought himself blessed
to "waste his life away" being a "from X's circle" at
the very best. whereas
the redditard of 2000
thinks his life
too valuable
to invest in anything. he is now a
thinking man, don't you know, an intellectual - everyone's an intellectual
that has computers, suddenly - and a
tiny little Kitschhochadel in his own right!
mircea_popescu: ver really solved, life will become simpler instead of more complex, and
that
the sort of pleasure one gets from finding
the first primrose will loom larger
than
the sort of pleasure one gets from eating an ice
to
the
tune of a Wurlitzer."
thing)
mircea_popescu: incidentally, even
though modern pigments and computers and what have you, we're not being deluged in fine art, as "you'd expect" (if you were say orwell or some other dumb schmuck with
the If a man cannot enjoy
the return of spring, why should he be happy in a labour-saving Utopia? What will he do with
the leisure
that
the machine will give him? I have always suspected
that if our economic and political problems are e
mircea_popescu: it means
this 27 yo man
that is indistinguishable from an 11 yo girl.