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mircea_popescu: that sort of large scale mismanagement is always
the result of
technical objects satisfying perceived imagological needs first and foremost. like
the fortifications of
the eternal city.
assbot: Logged on 24-08-2015 05:21:32; asciilifeform:
this kind of lure is only really
thinkable in a ru90s-style collapsy context
BingoBoingo: The kulaks
there were really starting
to develop a
taste for Buick and pickup
trucks
BingoBoingo: You know,
this Chinese market mess is going
to be hell on whatever's left of
the US auto industry.
funkenstein_: perhaps "java" is
too broad a descriptor with all
the different compilers, VMs or not, etc. available
mircea_popescu: maybe some kids wanted
to fuck but didn't know how
to camp so
they used
the available pilar ?
BingoBoingo: There better not be any of
those around here.
punkman: because of derps sensitive
to wifi?
BingoBoingo: Well, why
the fuck does a microwave
tower need
to wear clothes?
BingoBoingo: So, going out
to pick up some chicken hearts
to fry up for breakfast I saw
the local much beloved microwave
tower covered in a
tent of some sort
mircea_popescu: dude
there's
two people with wy ? apologies for misdirection
assbot: Logged on 24-08-2015 04:44:57; asciilifeform: in fact, i saw
these, as a boy, and
they permanently defined what 'advertising' means in my head.
wywialm: mike_c, we will not drop
the python app
mike_c: because I don't
trust it.
mike_c: cuz message has
to be encoded for each recipient
mircea_popescu: wyrdmantis slow, large memory footprint, undebuggable in
that order.
wywialm: mircea_popescu, what is java most hated for - in particular, in client-side? and what is
the recommended alternative for similar purposes?
mike_c: i was assuming he meant not using AES
to encode
the message
punkman: what's
the difference of full rsa
to current gpg?
mircea_popescu: shit... dude i miss
the drunken evening over a musama covered
table with drunk people.
mike_c: but I hear bandwidth is doubling every year for
the next 10 years :)
wywialm: for "high
touch" users, no, pyton-gnupg is more or less ok, but for algo and managing mulitple instruments
the delays are noticeable
mircea_popescu: turns out in point of fact a good chunk of
the internet "ponzi" subculture has
to do with
this schmuck promoting nonsense like it's his mission in life.
wywialm: mircea_popescu, is
there something i miss? re bouncy castle: we'll most likely have
to write a library
to make it more usable
mike_c: i mean, unless you're supporting HFT, is it really a problem for
the client app?
punkman: wywialm: does
that
thing do gpg?
mike_c: whole app is going
to java?
wywialm: i.e.
this python-gnupg - calling gpg is just
too slow
wywialm: that is very
temporary, we'll be moving
to java bouncy castle in
the near future
mike_c: going
to give gpgme a run around
the block and see how
that does.
wywialm: if
that is what you ask about
wywialm: mike_c, from
the client side, we have a python-gnupg wrapper app around our api
mike_c: oh? ok.. I will check it out.
thanks.
davout: mike_c: i got gpgme
to work fine fwiw
mike_c: wywialm: what do
the quedex guys use
to
talk
to gpg?
mircea_popescu: looks like it'll be
the first competing standard we end up writing.
mircea_popescu: mike_c another premature
thing is a pgp implementation
that's proper.
mike_c: so what, I'm stuck with bash scripts? how
to use
the fking
thing?
☟︎ mike_c: oh fuck, it stands for "gpg made easy"?
that's not promising
mike_c: a hacked
together with band-aids and rubber bands shell callout
punkman: python-gpgme doesn't call out
to shell but I haven't used it
mike_c: not in my experience, but
this area, it is.
mircea_popescu: mike_c from what i've seen,
the python-anything
turns out
that way
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mike_c: punkman:
thanks, I'll check it out.
there's a lot of versions floating around
mircea_popescu: all
these people derping about how "oh, cyprus banks collapsed - bitcoin lalala ; oh argentina default - bitcoin lalala" don't comprehend
the very basics of how economics works.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile bitcoin clearly poised
to absorb
the shocks lmao.
mike_c: Currently I am wrangling with python gnupg, which
turns out
to be a pile of shit
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mircea_popescu: PeterL imo holding any sort of usg paper is irresponsible, but
that's just me.
mircea_popescu: mike_c yeah a bit of an early
thing on my part. on
the
theory
that prolly you're doing plenty of other
things and want
to schedule
things
mike_c: Ok.
That was my impression,
that
the data source wasn't quite ready yet. we can wait.
PeterL: my US stock investments have recently lost everything
they gained since January, big old 0% increase on
the year now
mircea_popescu: you know, all
the ones about china
two months ago, do a search and replace. no good ?
mircea_popescu: hey, USG "press", where are all
the articles about how US collapses amid dji never-before-seen losses ?
mike_c: hey ascii. wanted
to chat about
the graph
thing when you have a few
Adlai: worth a
try imo, although it admittedly would intrude on
the afternoon alone
time
PeterL: well, we have one of
those, but only
the oldest would understand what
to do with it (maybe
the second, I should pull it out and see sometime?)
the
third wouldn't eat
the stones, he would probably grab
them and
throw
them across
the room, causing
the first
two
to come screaming
to me
that
their brother ruined
the game
Adlai: PeterL: if
there's more
than one, and
they're old enough not
to
try eating
the stones, i'd suggest replacing
the
TV with a goban
Adlai doesn't agree with
that philosophy literally, but doesn't agree with
the generally popular approach
to child-rearing either
PeterL: what does hitting
them accomplish?
thestringpuller: "And so I ask you
this one question. Have you ever
tried simply
turning off
the
TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting
them? " - Bender
PeterL: but sometimes me and Mrs L want
to have some alone
time on sunday afternoon, and
the kids need something
to distract
them
Adlai: it's in
there, somewhere
PeterL: well,
they don't watch much of it
PeterL: I don't have my kids watch
TV for development, it is just entertainment
PeterL: I mean,
they are not bad as kids shows, but still definitely aimed at kids and not adults
funkenstein_: so like, when it's
the neighbors who somehow you don't care about
their development at all, it's bearable
PeterL: like, I wouldn't sit down and watch it myself, but if
they watch it I don't stab my ears, like if "Dora
the Explora" gets
turned on
funkenstein_: PeterL, what does it mean "not bad
to have in other room" ?
PeterL: I never watched "Teen
Titans", which I understand followed
them fighting bad guys?
Teen
Titans Go is absurdly silly, mostly just
them hanging around
their
tower, it's ok in small doses