log☇︎
414300+ entries in 0.273s
trinque: heh, I'll grant that
BingoBoingo: You have to hit something for it to be a crash. If your car goes off the road and sink into the mud, but it stopped because of mud and not impact it wasn't a crash.
trinque: because we can just declare things... and what's reality anyway?
trinque: and that toddler wasn't killed.
trinque: BingoBoingo: sounds a bit like this news I'm reading of the "market rally" "disintegrating". ☟︎
BingoBoingo: o and Hunter-Butler has made threatening remarks.
BingoBoingo: “This is a mess,” said Jana Chamblee, who lives with her husband, Don, and their three children. “This is the biggest mess I’ve had in my life.” ... Chamblee and others on the block point to a house behind them, where Maritha Hunter-Butler has lived since May 9. She moved in with her three sons, a female partner and their four dogs. The neighbors say the dogs bark at all hours of the night, visitors constantly come and g ☟︎
BingoBoingo: A toddler was shot and killed today, but this is the local news http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/tension-escalates-in-a-st-charles-county-subdivision-after-a/article_f4803317-4ee7-5b4c-807f-4c9d9472d15b.html
assbot: Logged on 25-05-2015 23:34:32; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-05-2015#1144802 << apparently this is not obvious, but the principal reason i'm here is that convenient packaging of mpex tickers. ☟︎
Adlai: anybody who really cares that much should be in -trades or have their own feed
mod6: everytime i see that stuff on the shelf, i think, "this shit is a metephor for the whole goddamn thing."
punkman: not that hard to make at home
mod6: but it also makes this abortion: http://www.smuckers.com/products/peanut-butter/goober-pb-j/goober-grape-38
punkman: same with tahini
punkman: protip: if your peanut butter doesn't develop a layer of oil at the top, it probably has hydrogenated vegetable oil in it
mod6: ahh yah, canola, saw fields upon fields of this driving through manatoba
mod6: i can go look. this is 'vegetable oil'
punkman: I wonder, do they sell bottles of "cooking oil" in US supermarkets? (where you have to read the fine print to figure out what it's made of)
mod6: i got these ones from a lady from .ua at the farmers makert. instructions on the top said "don't cook in water", don't cook if frozen. so I let 'em thaw overnight. then just put 'em in a pan with a bit of cooking oil. simmered 'em until golden. tasted great to me!
mircea_popescu: how to bother people, entry #985468546 : pronounce adult as "a dolt". insist.
Adlai: if you had to ask, someday you'll know
punkman: Adlai: what's that
Adlai assures the concerned members of the audience that this is not from shitfinex... anybody who's written exchange APIs will probably recognize this
phf: or mp way, which is a lot more deliberate then mine, because i only ever fry leftover dumplings that were previously cooked. in any case you want the insides to get cooked too, so if you're deep frying them straight you want to cook insides first, then wrap in own dough, then fry the result
mircea_popescu: and i guarantee you they'll continue to have all the "market share" they had before : 0 actual users, a few confused people with their quarter btc and otherwise, the whole might and noise of the usg.
mircea_popescu: broomstick fires first, speaks after, it's a land of magical puffery over there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform gotta say something to salvage the pretense.
mircea_popescu: (dry-deepfry is so fucking retarded i have nfi why anyone even does it tbh)
mircea_popescu: mats you need one of those wire whisks. get the water to boiling, lower them into the water, give them ~90 seconds. take out, let them drip fully, then deepfry.
phf: mats: you probably overcooked them so they started falling apart
mats: ive tried that before and it ruined them
thestringpuller: https://twitter.com/bitfinex/status/636258874606133248 >> We are experiencing data corruption issues and will be offline until corrected. Sorry for the inconvenience.
phf: as opposed to say, dumplings
phf: i thought that's a standard way of cooking pierogies on account of thicker dough, you want to stuff inside to get fully cooked
mats: is it common to do that?
phf: mod6: you want to cook them in water for a bit first, and then fry them once they are cooked
mod6: I'm about to try to fry up some of these cheese & potato pierogies .. any tips ? just fry 'em until golden brown ?
mod6: ok, yah, works. just needed to do `gpg --verify <sigfile> <origfile>`
asciilifeform: mod6: first payload, then sig
mod6: so if we do <patchname>.<wotGuy>.sig then will fail
mod6: these sigs that you posted won't verify out-of-the box, not that i've tried. but the detached sig must match the file name with the exception of the trailing .sig on the end.
mircea_popescu: "helps you better understand the role of mp in shaping the 21st century"
mircea_popescu: same as the painting, really.
asciilifeform: betcha they're at least mildly authenticable.
asciilifeform: wonder what the ashes are worth
asciilifeform: for bonus points, buy that little stove in ro they used earlier
mircea_popescu: send the "minister of culture" the ash.
asciilifeform: neh that's reserved for authorized race-replacerz
mircea_popescu: maybe the guy should rape some teenagers ? apparently it's how you get shit done in the queen's realms.
mod6: that way a person can find the tarballs, etc.
mod6: alright, i'll leave them off, and maybe just leave a linkback in the body to your message.
asciilifeform: mod6: once 'v' is live, it can be retrofitted to the turdatron directly
mod6: asciilifeform: I see you attached the sigs for the vpatch files, and included the tarballs in your orchestra+breath-of-life (UPDATED) email. I think it'd like to attach the raw .vpatch files as well as the .sigs for completeness. Anything against this other than it's a bit redundant since you already posted the tarballs of the .vpatches?
asciilifeform: 'The government hopes that by blocking the painting from export there will be time for a new, serious buyer to come forward.'
trinque cranks the R.E.M., kicks back
assbot: Buyer pays over $200,000 for painting, but can't take it home - Aug. 19, 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLdnID )
asciilifeform: http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/19/news/niagara-painting-sale-blocked-uk/index.html?iid=ob_article_footer&iid=obnetwork << and re: the art thing
assbot: Logged on 08-07-2015 17:08:58; mircea_popescu: mod6 "our free market is this thing you can only buy!!1"
assbot: Trading was halted 1,200 times Monday - Aug. 24, 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLd6Fv )
punkman: from Syria, to Kos and Lesvos, to the promised land of Germany and Sweden
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLcwrt )
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 224.11, Best ask: 224.39, Bid-ask spread: 0.28000, Last trade: 224.42, 24 hour volume: 75242.0072563, 24 hour low: 196.6, 24 hour high: 228.77, 24 hour vwap: None
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: also hard with stone axe, mammoth teeth, bear skin.
funkenstein_: it's also hard to make good rsa privkeys with dice
funkenstein_: addresses are hashes, that's not a problem
asciilifeform: that wasn't the concern
funkenstein_: it seems thats the bottleneck
funkenstein_: signature verification is more intensive than modinv stuff with ecdsa?
asciilifeform: quite sure that we discussed it.
asciilifeform: is the usual excuse.
funkenstein_: i meant address, tx signing, DSA not POW
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: possibly for the reason i mentioned
asciilifeform: they perhaps were not quite good enough for pgp, but for this - perfect
asciilifeform: to them, the spoils ?
asciilifeform: my only misgiving about this is if you stop and think who's been baking factoratrons for the past 20 yrs.
mircea_popescu: in general, as it has been correctly observed and oft repeated, the simpler the gun, the worse for the state.
mircea_popescu: that obviously reduces to a ram farm, but at least ram is a degree of magnitude more commodised than gpus.
mircea_popescu: if you think about it, unless you have a nvidia farm you're trying to find a use for, your pow has no business being a recursive hash and shouldreally be a lot more like what phuctor's doing
punkman: mircea_popescu: how's the hash pow related to ec?
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the hash-and-nonce approach to pow originally proposed is quite obviously hackery.
BingoBoingo: Ah, I think I was missing rt
fluffypony: but I haven't checked the last few commits on BSD, so it's entirely possible we broke something
fluffypony: head should build if you "make release-static" and have the depsa
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell fluffypony You know of any working OpenBSD monero builds?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and now we know why he made no attempt to parallelize, also.
punkman: "If you are part of the PGP strong set or your PGP key is on bitcoin-otc you now have a timestamp. Take your PGP fingerprint and convert that into a Bitcoin address and you'll find a 1 satoshi payment to it"
assbot: Improving the trustworthyness of PGP keys with Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1NHbJNh )
mircea_popescu: check out gavin from 2011 : "What's the extra CPU cost for recovering the public key? Current bottleneck for bitcoin transaction processing is the CPU cost of ECDSA signature verification, not disk space or bandwidth, so saving bytes at the expense of more CPU is not the right thing to do."
punkman: (linked from spreadcoin text)
assbot: ECDSA Signatures allow recovery of the public key ... ( http://bit.ly/1NHayNO )
mircea_popescu: odd how selective stupidity is. it'll only do its stupid thing where it doesn';t stand a chance, but will avoid where it'd work.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform funnily, the "corner silver market" was the opposite mistake. ie, "we'll make thius a 500 bn system for no reason"
asciilifeform not convinced that this works as described
asciilifeform: 'In SpreadCoin mining is organized in such way that miner must know the following things: 1. Private key corresponding to the coinbase transaction. 2. Whole block, not only its header. ... Pool may detect and ban cheating miners. However, many miners may still prefer to cheat so that pool will be completely unusable for honest miners.'
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: so dead that not even a copy of the paper can be turned up.
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: appears to be entirely dead
assbot: Logged on 25-08-2015 18:53:47; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: workfunctions, there was once some theoretical work concerning 'non-outsourceable puzzles', i.e. mathematical magic preventing the formation of pools by allowing any pool participant to silently and untraceably claim the entire block reward. but i cannot recall if this went anywhere other than academiwankery.
funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-08-2015#1251979 <-- a test implementation exists called "spreadcoin" ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: somehow no one is foolish enough to make the mistake in, e.g., aluminum market
mircea_popescu: same is true of monets, but the exponential's going the other way