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asciilifeform: or rifle, to the zulu
asciilifeform: as american pc was denied to su
asciilifeform: more commonly it is simply to deny modern tech to the vanquished
asciilifeform: phf: diddling is not the only or even the most traditional exertion of control by the crown
phf: that's not a problem that i'm facing though, since i don't know of diddle diesel engines (i'm sure they are but..)
asciilifeform: there is, after all, a reason why civilized men drive ferrari while the pashtun lives and dies in own shit and fucks goats
phf: it's the main factory though, since everything else can be done pashtun style
asciilifeform: they would have had to build own electronics industry then.
asciilifeform: one time, out of idle curiosity, i looked into what it would have taken .ir to run natanz u refinery on not-winblowz
asciilifeform: and this is just one particular kind of factory, note.
asciilifeform: and - even aside from the winblowz, this actually matters. none of it will do general-purpose asynchronous logic, for instance.
asciilifeform: there is no sign of the slightest threat of this changing.
asciilifeform: with the same 3 american vendors supplying it
asciilifeform: so far, EVERY SINGLE SI FAB ON THE PLANET and ALL THE DESIGN TOOLING (with the exception of chuck moore's...) runs on winblowz ☟︎
asciilifeform: this is a perpetual 'will tomorrow'
phf: while china is playing catch up, you get a computing equivalent of wild west with areas where the control simply didn't have resources to manifest, as soon as u.s. stops driving chip design, china will start closing up same holes u.s. is in the process of closing up right now
asciilifeform: and even their cheap 'arm' cores are direct-licensed now, from britain.
phf: it's probably heinlein point, true freedom exists only at frontier, but because folk are preoccupied with practical things like "how to survive" rather then "my neighbor is smoking weed and ~gasp~ enjoying it"
asciilifeform: they would, in fact, make exact copies of intel's crud (complete with nsa) -- if they could. (ever wonder why they do not?)
asciilifeform: they are not interested in it any more than usg is.
asciilifeform: re: 'nintendoized' cpu: folks who are counting on the chinese to 'carry the torch' of real computer, are fooling themselves
asciilifeform: in real world, 'telescreen' is not in every room but in every toilet stall, and people not only do not hide from it but pose for it, and complain about not enough resolution on the ccd. ☟︎
phf: right, well, it's the whole 1984 vs brave new world
asciilifeform: on account of how you can't really write an engaging yarn about inhabitants of the real thing, as we have it ☟︎
asciilifeform: this is because rms likely grew up on the usual 20th c. dystopian fictions where there is always folks struggling to escape, etc
asciilifeform: phf: except, in ways no one afaik particularly expected to be possible, ~more~ direly than rms predicted.
phf: odd to read rms from 10-15 years ago and see his predictions come out right..
phf: it's a common thread here, the whole rise of "open" as true openness disappears. to paraphrase snl skit, "our hardware is maker open - what does that mean? - not open"
asciilifeform: unless mircea_popescu pulls a cpu fab out of his shirt pocket, there is nothing preventing this disease from progressing.
asciilifeform: that you can run on the nintendoized cpu.
asciilifeform: no one is banning linux. instead there is a 'linux foundation' (see log) which will sign 'legit, non-terrorist' kernels for you ☟︎
asciilifeform: it was naive of rms & co. to predict 'microshit will ban linux' in '01 or whenever the 'palladium' thing started going
asciilifeform: this trend carries on.
asciilifeform: or that 'remote update' was not yet a thing
asciilifeform: young people already make a face of disbelief if you tell'em that when you were a boy it was routine to modify the asm routines of your os directly, or bypass them entirely
asciilifeform: general-purpose programmable computer is far more feared by usg than the most powerful dynamite.
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 17:49:55; ascii_field: trinque: it is about more than wifi in particular, but the entire box it happens to be installed in
asciilifeform: see thread, e.g., http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-08-2015#1257284 ☝︎
asciilifeform: this, just as was predicted ~15 years ago, is to be applied to electronics as well as chemistry.
asciilifeform: 'slave has no business doing what is not on the menu'
asciilifeform: all the same basic theme.
phf: seems like it's the same in pharmacology
asciilifeform: from sneeze meds that are less meth-worthy to floor cleaners lacking acids ☟︎
asciilifeform: much of the 'progress' in common household chem in the past few decades focused on making things less... repurposable
punkman: I never mixed the thing myself, but I saw a kid make a pretty big fireball once
asciilifeform: heavy on the perfumes and dyes, light on items-which-actually-dissolve-things
punkman: asciilifeform: and hydrochloric acid in the bathroom cleaning materials
asciilifeform: punkman: point being that boy finds vinegar in mother's kitchen
phf: i thought twice before googling "негашеная известь бомба" just now, pretty sure on a list at this point. thought i suspect hanging out on b-a does that too
asciilifeform: 'possession of terrorist weapon'
phf: oh man, i think we would build another version of "metal pipe + match shavings" every other summer
mod6: i've kinda heard this too - you buy a word from them that hits on certain brain based reactions. something like that.
asciilifeform once heard allegation that virtually all major product names, esp. in usa, are purchased from one particular firm specializing in names... ☟︎
phf: growing up on a dacha i remember putting quicklime (calcium oxide) into sealed containers with water. one time a friend of mine got his vein opened with glass shrapnel, my grandfather drove him to a hospital and that was the extent of drama, no national news, no "dangers of quicklime", no concerned mothers calling for bans
asciilifeform: take the ol' 'nissan doody' and 'volkswagen woodpony' to the scrapyard.
asciilifeform: mod6: neato. try 'pressing', get a feel for how it works.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dulap ~still~ trailing by 35 blx ☟︎
mod6: Will work through some more of this tomorrow after I get the SoBA out.
mod6: asciilifeform: I took a look at v99 just briefly, so far, looks good. I dropped in my sigs from http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000158.html into ~/.seals along with the sigs/*.sig files that it comes with and I was able to genereate the following: http://dpaste.com/198XBTF.txt
ascii_field: clean to your heart's desire. so long as it gets shorter.
ascii_field: whole thing is what, 3 pgs of a4 ?
ascii_field: i know how to run 'diff'.
ascii_field: who cares where they come down!
ben_vulpes: why i find this amusing is left as an exercise to the logreader.
ben_vulpes: you overestimate my familiarity with the 'art'
ascii_field: memoize is an actual term of art
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: if you are expert with the language, do not hesitate to simplify routines / fix oddities of whatever kind, and post signed revisions...
ben_vulpes: "Memoize" means to store in memory during the course of a run?
ascii_field: i would offer to help kakobrekla but doubt that i could possibly improve on his process...
kakobrekla: on that note also let it be known i score bashes including links quite low for various reasons
kakobrekla: also often i end up checking the log if the bash can be framed better
trinque: he tapes various shitty open source modules together for about 1yr, then gets another job
trinque: ascii_field: I'll tell you what a professional pythonista does...
kakobrekla: occasionally i check the buffer and remove the bad ones, the good ones get re-read the next time and when i feel strongly enough about the one waiting the longest i approve a batch, as deep as it goes
ascii_field: kakobrekla: does the thing get spammed much from the www box ?
mircea_popescu: dude thre bash is pretty cool
ascii_field: are there 'professional awkistas' ?
ascii_field: and i shudder to think of 'professional pythonistas' and what they do.
assbot: Logged on 25-06-2015 21:47:45; assbot: Logged on 03-02-2015 23:43:58; asciilifeform: winnie pooh walks into a butcher's shop, asks 'got mortadella' ? answer, 'sure' winnie pooh draws a submachinegun and spins round, round, round with it, mowing down everything that moves: 'for piiigleet!'
mircea_popescu: "shoot without aiming", "taking it up the ass", what the hell's the difference.
ascii_field: nah that's only if you're aiming
mircea_popescu: you kidding there's so many tarsal flexors involved
ascii_field: i thought it was '1 to pull trigger'
mircea_popescu: but alf! it takes 85 muscles to hate and only 1 to take it up the as!
ascii_field: i fucking hate the language.
ben_vulpes: things that "professional pythonistas" bitch about all day that impact execution approximately nil.
ascii_field: just reminding folks that this is not (yet) lifesupportquality proggy.
trinque: it at least didn't take any fingers last night when I fired it up
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: thing has many sharp corners and probably one or two outright mistakes.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-08-2015#1257767 << any nitpicks thus far ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: you conversely can't have a trillion worth of cake and ten dollars in cash.
mircea_popescu: you can't have a trillion worth of dollars and ten dollar's worth of cake.
mircea_popescu: (the driver of inflation is the circumstance that in any economy, the monetary value of circulating capital and the monetary value of goods sit in a certain, fixed proportion)
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> thestringpuller "can be viewed here" << missing link ? << fixed link was living in: (text)
mircea_popescu: re s.mg report : that game's actually getting an economy and everything! macro variables visible, a money/goods raport emerges, whatnot
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: tried the thing yet ?
ascii_field: next is to be 98.
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: didja ship 99K with the 100K version string still in or am i misunderstanding something?
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2015 21:54:24; mircea_popescu: buttcrack tattoos are painful.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-08-2015#1257703 << bone's /rather/ close to the surface there. ☝︎