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mp_en_viaje: as it happens the republic ran an isp out of a datacenter in uruguay, which recently imploded. this means we have a bunch of boxes that need a new home, and some people who possibly need a new job.
mp_en_viaje: the top node is the most serene republic, which is a sovereign. like say the country of romania.
mp_en_viaje: maxim_mivo, you're not required to ad-hoc research lol, if you say "no" i'll just give you a summary you can fill out later if/when
mp_en_viaje: yes, lots of people read it. and good for you, i also speak romanian. and spanish. and well.. a few langs. testament of an active intelligence.
diana_coman: maxim_mivo: do they have any separate net pipes? or is it basically the same if I get a server in Iasi or in Chisinau?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-07 20:24:24 mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, come to think about it, see if guy is avail for a conf tomorrow morning say 10 to 11 osterreich time ?
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941886 - I'll fire him an email in a bit; thing is I'll be at console some 10 minutes past the austrian-10am
asciilifeform: 'on each camel god will put his own sort of load and a straw to break his back' or how did it go.
lobbes: bot going down for a few seconds to apply latest two patchen... stand by
asciilifeform no longer has anything resembling a realistic picture of escape. perhaps could sign on as swabbie on mp's submarine when he buys 1...
asciilifeform: the big ortho cathedral in timis had a proper pauperty. oddly, no paupers tho.
BingoBoingo: Have yet to encounter a distinctly orthodox presenting church in the city.
BingoBoingo: Here they have Catholic, Anglican, Several different kinds of jew, Mormon, the "Christ Scientists" have a giant one...
BingoBoingo: Or on a church the stoople
BingoBoingo: Back when england was a thing they tried to keep those from accumulating.
asciilifeform: y'know, the designated spot where a pauper paups.
asciilifeform: ( and can't move self. i'm a pauper and my pauperty's here . )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: cuz i cannot in good conscience try to peddle a chunk of a colo to which some derp has the keys and i'm 10,000km away.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If you want to do a slow growth thing and try to recoup some Bitcoin, I don't see what is keeping you from finishing your second RK plant and finding it a lower cost basis/better value pipe eurocolo.
asciilifeform: imho castle mpstein would be a proper home for the remaining FG's, asciilifeform does not know how long has 'until sepsis' .
BingoBoingo: Those servers are a treasure.
asciilifeform: the specific flavour of x86 boxen asciilifeform is partial to, has become a rarity, and imho worth to recover all of it for reuse.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If you do make it back to the Oriental Republic, however... I am willing to drop everything to make a potroast.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i will buy personally for you a ticket to anywhere on planet3.
lobbes: well, as diana_coman once told me *sustainable* growth is the key. From my chair at least, it doesn't seem like taking time to regroup is a necessarily a bad thing
BingoBoingo: She's been working on getting some English language, but ripping her out of the Spanish language space and bringing her to eastern Europe and Slavic languages to get colocated with me near another datacenter... When the necessity of spreading seems to have been one of the lessons... It seems a bit much.
BingoBoingo: To put together a Qntra I might read five to ten takes from raw sources before I can collapse the story into condensed, journalistic text.
lobbes: on the bright side, tho, now you have real world experience for someone else that starts an endeavor of the sort. It is expensive to get that experience, and you own it in a way no one else does
lobbes: this is true about the accretions of failure. A lesson for all of us, I reckon. Makes me take a hard look at my own failures I may be missing
BingoBoingo: lobbes: Leaping over the wire was the easy part. Letting ritual complexity explode early by not objecting to the GPG note passing thing was a failure. The big failure was marketing, not having a private message churner or selling anyone on the idea of getting one together for Pizarro and fast. The thing about failures is that over time their consequences accrete. Over time these accretions build up and generate inertia. It is like a
lobbes: Not sure what I'm trying to say exactly, other than perhaps "there's many ways to make a mark in history". Idk, I'ma shut up as my inspirational speeches seem to have a history of turning people off rather than inspiring
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-07 21:15:20 mp_en_viaje: "not talking to many people you don't know ~= suicide" might've been more productive a lesson.
BingoBoingo: Oscar did send some new graphs. One seems to show a lot of traffic hitting Latecho near, but not inside out block. https://ibb.co/MBCdf6X https://ibb.co/4NdZGcV https://ibb.co/0K2Z4TK https://ibb.co/zQHs76v
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: apologies. Got a tab open for each logger atm.
asciilifeform: naturally a welded tin can aint a 100 tonne safe . but will be equally impossible to get inside w/out leaving obv. marks.
asciilifeform: lobbes: if you colo boxen, i rec to take a weekend to learn to use a spot welder
asciilifeform will miss the golden time of when could put a box in a locking cage where only l1 human , rather than dirty paws of heathens, will lay on it
lobbes: asciilifeform: this is a point re: parking in same cage. Perhaps couldn't hurt to do some more charting.
asciilifeform: that being said, i dun exactly have a list of 9000 cages that known to work.
asciilifeform: i suspect is is a fundamentally bad idea .
lobbes: asciilifeform: ack re: sigs. I'll let you know once I have new blog home. Going to order a leased stock box from that moldavian hoster nao methinks
asciilifeform: it will be a while before asciilifeform can again participate in building anything that material costs more than electrons .
lobbes: ah okay, so you arbitraged a shitcoin in a sense
asciilifeform: lobbes: nao-forgotten d00d wrote a sort of early premined shitcoin, 'urbit', and asciilifeform won one as a prize in a contest he had. is what this was.
asciilifeform: also at one point sold a mythical kingdom to some unknown fella for a little.
asciilifeform: eventually bought a little from 'gox' right before it chernobyled.
lobbes: I bought my first coin for ~$20 back in 2013 or abouts, then hung onto it for dear life. Almost lost it in a tardstalk scam, but luckily read hanbot's ancient writings; found this place in time
lobbes: even worse, I dun even have a working trb node
asciilifeform might be unusual, but often prefers to pay in orc scrip because sitting on a vehehehery modest and rapidly dwindling pile of btc
asciilifeform: ( iirc diana_coman took a leased stock machine rather than colo )
asciilifeform: lobbes: i expect there'll be a where-to-park then.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-07 06:37:31 mp_en_viaje: lobbes, when is it you'll need a server to sit down orchestra on ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-07 13:06:49 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941226 << The 'first chunk' which spits lines into the mpwp db should be complete by the end of this month (as in patched and ready to go). That's a conservative estimate as well; hopefully sooner.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-07 21:34:35 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941357 << i meant the whole thing, when you're ready to make delivery and i hafta have a server ready for you to do this on.
lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941645 << at my current rate of developing the thing, I will give a tentative estimate of Jan 1st 2020 as delivery date of whole enchilada. I will update this deadline quickly if I see it threatening to be pushed
ossabot: Mocky last seen in #trilema on 2019-09-04 22:48:05: I fell down a rabbit hole
ossabot: Mocky last seen here on 2019-09-04 22:48:05: I fell down a rabbit hole
mp_en_viaje: in my case it's more a case of "oh, remember when the old shcmucks srsly thought they stand a chance ?"
asciilifeform actually followed the last convulsions of bbet, and the end of era1, on hidden terminal in a snakepit fulla unspeakable usg stooges
mp_en_viaje: pizarro had a decent run in spite of management ; that it came to an end... it ran for 20+ months neh. plenty of time.
mp_en_viaje: "not talking to many people you don't know ~= suicide" might've been more productive a lesson.
lobbes: mp-wp bot couldn't be a thing without it, for example
mp_en_viaje: well, actually, your logger is widely distributed and you have it, except for not atm on a box.
mp_en_viaje: isn't that a sobering thought.
mp_en_viaje: things should be reviewed on merits, and periodically, but on merits and periodically, not whenever got a paper cut.
asciilifeform also dealing with a possibly-imploding salt mine, for extra kicks
mp_en_viaje: piling everything together, "my car got a flat tire, and come to think of it my wife is annoying also" is a great way to find suicide appealing and naught much else. not exactly rational review.
mp_en_viaje: well, we can talk about nsa later this week, ima have to write report anyways. one thing at a time neh ?
asciilifeform: nao i haven't even a logger .
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform was provisioning a noad-capable box too, for moldavia test .
mp_en_viaje: i guess ima put a node on the new trilemabot machine too, why not.
mod6: mp_en_viaje: Fair enough, I seem to remember this as a problem with striping.. like a RAID 5.
mp_en_viaje: mod6, i never ran into this order problem in a raid before ?
mod6: Ah, ok. I can't be certain it is a 3ware. Maybe BB can check inside the box.
asciilifeform: mod6: i didn't build your box, but if it's a '3ware', order dun matter
mod6: asciilifeform: The tbf box in the rack would be nice to be backed up -- I believe, from memory, this is a raid configuration in there. If the drives are pulled and not numbered correctly, probably can't re-create.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: a q for BingoBoingo when he wakes up.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: mno, there was a security deposit, + remnant of month afaik.
mp_en_viaje: you have a balance ?
asciilifeform: it ~could~ come back on. but this won't fix structural problem imho. ~might~ give time to negotiate a straight-from-antel, in theory.
mp_en_viaje: when i landed in chisinev, mid 90s, it had just came out as law or somesuch apparently that all cunts must wear miniskirts with pantyhose. dedicated sellers of pantyhose on all street corners and not a single warm blooded xx humanoid in any other garb.
asciilifeform: what we won't have, in moldavia, is obv. (unless he in fact does go there) a BingoBoingo to swap disks, inspect seals, move hoses around in <1hr on request, and such nice things. but what can do.
asciilifeform: afaik they've a nicely deadlocked gov, too, with a putin prime minister and a usg parliament.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, come to think about it, see if guy is avail for a conf tomorrow morning say 10 to 11 osterreich time ?
asciilifeform apprehensive about re-creating a piz-style 'target rich envir.' in moldavia, but all of asciilifeform's attemps to find reasonable hosters ended in broken teeth
asciilifeform: i built it out of waht i built it, for a reason, and if disappeared would build again outta same. so yes would like it back.
mp_en_viaje: a right. i recall now.
asciilifeform: i was actually preparing a modest box to go there
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: we're all still stuck with a different set of 'rathers' .
mp_en_viaje: well muh dear space-admiral & mars mission commandant... it dun seem to be so much a question of what i'd rather. does it.
asciilifeform: might make a diff re where to evacuate irons to, when this time comes.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941464 << was it snsa owned a machine and smg another one, and renting a 3rd ? i thought we had mostly sold all iron to piz, will have to look through all these.
asciilifeform: at any rate, for our purposes afaik dun matter what kinda botnet. nor have i a connection to draw from that point to what we've got. so will leave subj alone for nao.
mp_en_viaje: but that is a decade ago
mp_en_viaje: a ty
mp_en_viaje: i recall at least one instance where trilema was down and my defense of not giving a shit for a week or so came remarkably cheap to me.
mp_en_viaje: do we by "the defense" mean not giving a shit, or do we by "the defense" mean nullrooting ips ?
mp_en_viaje: is the idea pizarro boxes were hit with 1tb/s for a while ?
mp_en_viaje: "i went to herpetologist for my snake and my cousin went to hematologist for her blood, and my snake's tooth count came way smaller than her platelets. wtf medicine is a scam"
mp_en_viaje: anyway, to set a matter of record straight : it is not ~necessarily~ the case oscar is lying re "dedicado"->centurylink. that's why man on the ground / contacts beats remote in these things. there's half a dozen way the peering data can be fudged into unreliability