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mircea_popescu: o wow, huge iran quake.
mircea_popescu: hence the -ev / s.dice discussion
mircea_popescu: well absolutely.
mircea_popescu: kinda how the human brain is made to work i think
mircea_popescu: sure, they are. till they aren't.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder in the end it all boils down to "it's an -ev game" and "everybody thinks they're special".
mircea_popescu: KRS1 it is, kinda.
mircea_popescu: we're talking net inflows, the fact someone makes bets worth 10 btc on s.dice doesn't mean he has bet a total over 1 btc
mircea_popescu: dub most of the trades count as wash trades in this perspective.
mircea_popescu: probably. if by long term one means more than a year or a few.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder well macro is macro.
mircea_popescu: dub that's not how it works tho.
mircea_popescu: i bet you the EV of the bubble is < the EV of S.dice.
mircea_popescu: rest was split out back among the noobs.
mircea_popescu: let's look at this past week (dear lord, it is ONE WEEK) from a macro perspective. buncha noobs poured 20-25 mn into the fiat/btc exchanges. miners took out a few mn of that, exchanges took out a few mn out of that too as fees.
mircea_popescu: see ? this is all "What others think"
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder ok, but you think this based on what ?
mircea_popescu: conversely, the nature of people is to infer patterns in chance.
mircea_popescu: well, that's the nature of chance. sometimes it works.
mircea_popescu: the only problem is that it doesn't work longterm. might as well play s.dice.
mircea_popescu: deadweasel nothing wrong with that.
mircea_popescu: you're merely participating in volatility formation.
mircea_popescu: thus you're not participating in price formation
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder meaningful, as in having a price signal. you're currently unable to make any sort of judgement as to what bitcoin price should be other than "what are others thinking"
mircea_popescu: well...
mircea_popescu: i know your goal is to try and speculate, but this makes you not part of bitcoin in any meaningful sense.
mircea_popescu: i don't imagine a recoupling is ever likely at any rate.
mircea_popescu: the mtgox "market" is very decoupled from economic reality, as it happens.
mircea_popescu: buncha noobs got tjhemselves into a tizzy. nobody really caresd.
mircea_popescu: exactly.
mircea_popescu: well...
mircea_popescu: this is money. people don't matter.
mircea_popescu: total bitcoins.
mircea_popescu: the 1% or so bitcoins that are held by noobs really don't matter in any serious discussion.
mircea_popescu: sigh.
mircea_popescu: the vast majority of bitcvoin holders don't give a shit what the price is.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder you're making the mistake of thinking "people" are like you.
mircea_popescu: anyway, catch all of you tomorrow.
mircea_popescu: that'd be the rub.
mircea_popescu: and mtgox is illegal in europe
mircea_popescu: basically you can't initiate a sepa wire except from an european bank or subsidiary
mircea_popescu: but basically it's faster cheaper wire.
mircea_popescu: cause idiocy.
mircea_popescu: yeah
mircea_popescu: sepa is a wire.
mircea_popescu: goes to 20/80 if you make it 3 years.
mircea_popescu: seen one seen all imo
mircea_popescu: sure, back in 1990s
mircea_popescu: i've not looked. i'll survive uninformed.
mircea_popescu: i lost count.
mircea_popescu: so what's the ny-boston bombings score so far ?
mircea_popescu: unintended misinterpretations ftw.
mircea_popescu: ouch
mircea_popescu: he eats her out like everyone else, what.
mircea_popescu: also being a vegetarian, and other faggotry.
mircea_popescu: tofu is illegal in romania.
mircea_popescu: dub whart maggots ?!
mircea_popescu: it's great, what.
mircea_popescu: and cooks beef.
mircea_popescu: dub now she eats prosciutto
mircea_popescu: i have a slave used to be vegetarian.
mircea_popescu: orkaa looks kinda shitty but maybe.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla must kidnap vegans, feed them slanina.
mircea_popescu: ^
mircea_popescu: i love lamb tikka masala
mircea_popescu: sucks.
mircea_popescu: who ever heard of sweet meat ;/
mircea_popescu: that shit's sweet
mircea_popescu: even the canadians, if only marginally.
mircea_popescu: comparatively everyone makes great food.
mircea_popescu: thuis is kinda the advantage of vbeing american/english
mircea_popescu: if it's neither then it's folklore.
mircea_popescu: if you mean buldings or whatnot.
mircea_popescu: yes culture has to be written. else it's maybe civilisation
mircea_popescu: you mean a lot of ethno stuff ?
mircea_popescu: culture mostly means written shit 500 years old or older.
mircea_popescu: i fail to see how this is culture.
mircea_popescu: what does "a lot of culture" mean ?
mircea_popescu: pgp yeah.
mircea_popescu: kinda my point.
mircea_popescu: it's not dreadful. it's sort of like hm... virginia maybe.
mircea_popescu: well... i'm from transylvania actually.
mircea_popescu: no that's the uk.
mircea_popescu: gypsies kinda all left for france.
mircea_popescu: well... they think they do at the very least.
mircea_popescu: we just don't have american nazism.
mircea_popescu: there;'s evenb a freenode romanian server what arte you talkin' about
mircea_popescu: orly ?
mircea_popescu: sorta 50 miles east of somalia.
mircea_popescu: ahahaha somalia
mircea_popescu: stubbleweed lol
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'd love to stay and chat but i'm due in some meetings. we continue later.
mircea_popescu: mostly the drop triggered what looks more like safety than actual pricing assumptions
mircea_popescu: the bot however went berserk basically.
mircea_popescu: the algo didn't change.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the bot's pricing algo is proprietary, yes. i don't see why it wouldn't be.
mircea_popescu: i don't mind it, especialyl if it makes sense.
mircea_popescu: unbalanced_ im not offended or anything
mircea_popescu: ezdiy you know, there have been 10k btc single orders on mpex.