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mats: its an uphill battle, sure. but
there's also still a sense of 'meritocracy' in place for a lot of american engineers.
mircea_popescu: about how somewhere
there are real programmers for real
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough,
THIS blows a heck of a hole in asciilifeform's fairy
tale hopes and dreams
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 00:37:10; mircea_popescu: yeah.
the subset in discussion :
that follows
twitter, shoiws up for conferences and derps at yshittynator events.
mats: i know several folks hired out of univ
to write ada for e.g. lockheed
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 00:35:43; mircea_popescu: who
the fuck even came up with
the idea
the concept of "career" is meaningful in a space which mostly aims
to hire 20yos.
kdomanski: exempli gratia: if you want
to make software for aircraft or
tanks, you need
to be playing
the "career" game for decades
kdomanski: mircea_popescu: you know
there's software outside of what
the silly con valley does
mircea_popescu: when
that happens in a field, a career's in principle impossible.
mircea_popescu: but nobody goes "hey, let's hire
this guy, he's in 3rd year medical school"
mircea_popescu: it
takes 30 years' worth of looking at fucking probes
to spot
the cells.
mircea_popescu: there are fields where careers exist. you can have a career as a surgeon. oncologist diagnosticians in particular are
the fathers of all careerdom,
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 00:32:41; mircea_popescu: and ftrr, what is a "career" ? who do you know
that has "a career" ?
mircea_popescu has had his fill of retarded
teenagers sitting around crediting each other's socioeconomicosexual-and-otherwise wholly imagined accomplishments sometime around
the age of 15.
mircea_popescu: i mean
time warner paid a billion for myspace which was worth ~0, sure,
turner's old and stupid.
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 00:30:31; mircea_popescu: so be good if you don't wantthe bugaboo
to get you
too! like it got
those other kids.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no middle ground. either be
them or don't need
to bitch about it!
trinque: yeah but some kid just decides
to be a bum, because it's a lifestyle
trinque: I
think
the bums around here all know you can get "assistance"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the last us citizen
that actually
took out less
than what he put in died sometime in
the 80s.
mircea_popescu: better
to explain what's
to be done, let people work
their own script
trinque: would probably be nice
to stick on
the website.
trinque: mircea_popescu: I was
thinking of releasing a script
that you hand a doc, and it farts out
the address
mircea_popescu: that
they
try
to pretend like "thgey did it", sure,
the scum
that
they are would.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
that happens because
THEY HAVE NO CHOICE
trinque: pete_dushenski: is
that just another RSS feed?
mircea_popescu: trinque
that part's not going away. but a faq page explaining how
to construct
the payout address would be helpful.
trinque: deedbot- isn't currently n00b friendly at all, no. And I'll always prefer
that people are in good standing in
the WoT
to use it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but
they have no contribution in
that.
midnightmagic: pete_dushenski, mircea_popescu:
thanks, I'll re-read.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform all reichs always collapse because of
the reich, and
the outside enemies. never was it
the case "the people" did anything relevant.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic a valid point, i don't
think
the whole
thing's properly packaged for public consumption.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: I'd like
to start pointing people away from proofofexistence and other incompatible nonsense and IIRC, deedbot is careful/efficient in how it stores stuff in
the blockchain. If
that is so, I'd like
to point newbs at.. like a website or something, if it exists.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you
think
the reich collapses "because
the people"...
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2015 00:10:48; mircea_popescu: people who depend on welfare should learn
to suck
the cock of
their patrons better.
pete_dushenski: trinque: what would it
take
to revive []bot
to scoop new bitbet proposals and >1 btc wagers ?
assbot: Logged on 14-06-2014 11:59:24; mircea_popescu: so based on mike_c's discussion last night, i
think i have a very good addition
to b-a kako. it'd go like
this :
mircea_popescu: not
that rms doesn't display plenty of it. myst be something in unix
that makes people go "hey, i can just ignore
the classes i don't want
to use right now" or somesuch.
midnightmagic: Is
there somewhere I can read more about how deedbot works under
the hood and where I can find its proofs and such?
mircea_popescu: there's
this borderline autistic hypocrisy behaviour
that somehow's really represented in my head by
the oss folks.
mircea_popescu: "i was an integral part of
the gnu sellout, and i feel kinda bad about it so i'll just pretend i didn't do anything and hey,
the communitards are
too dumb
to know shit from
their face."
mircea_popescu: still, it's not
their god damned car. and so no, not rich. merely posing with opr.
kdomanski: trinque: money allows
to exert influence on people regardless of
their political stance
mircea_popescu: teenaged kids with whoremongering fathers often borrow
the cars
those drive in an attempt
to cargo-cult
the whores
they bang into existence. perhaps
they could be embodied out of
their classmates or something.
mircea_popescu: the other important point is, "whether you get
to actually hold it". riches subject
to riders like "you may only use
this
to inflate real estate bubble" aren't much yours anyway.
trinque: kdomanski: since money is political, you might consider it a compass
to
the extent
that you agree with
the prevailing politics
mircea_popescu: but i'm not getting
too far with alf on
this line either, so.
kdomanski: which is
trivial sophism once one is already wealthy
mircea_popescu: proving once more
that
the fetish of wealth is a very poor compass for one's life.
kdomanski: mircea_popescu: it does get
them richer
than anything else
they could possibly do with
their lives
mircea_popescu: yeah.
the subset in discussion :
that follows
twitter, shoiws up for conferences and derps at yshittynator events.
☟︎ kdomanski: in a space which mostly aims
to hire 20yos <<
that's merely a subset of
that space
mircea_popescu: who
the fuck even came up with
the idea
the concept of "career" is meaningful in a space which mostly aims
to hire 20yos.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the lolcows. gavin and co, and it's a shitty career in unintentional comedy at
that.
mircea_popescu: seinfeld ~had~ a career. it lasted a decade, and he quit while ahead. who
the fuck in software has a career ?
mircea_popescu: kdomanski
the deep reason is
that you folk can't eat on your own. obviously
there's going
to be a code of conduct : he who lives in his parents house observes
the fucking rules neh .
mircea_popescu: then bubble's back on and
they hire any shaved monkey with a pulse.
mircea_popescu: bubble's going out and everyone's out on
their ass, career or no career.
this isn't showbiz, it's computer slavery.
mircea_popescu: and ftrr, what is a "career" ? who do you know
that has "a career" ?
☟︎ kdomanski: the actual long-lasting damage being done here is: now
they're assembling an universal code of conduct or whatever
mircea_popescu: it's
the land of freakarama over
there, what do you
think an example's gonna do ?