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ben_vulpes: because vlc is too hard?
mircea_popescu: however, it's fun to fish in a swamp with regexp. when you feel so inclined.
mircea_popescu: ie, the "bayesian" twerps have it all wrong. it's dumbass to try and protect an inbox with regexp, and especially their halfbaked regexp based ai
mircea_popescu: occasionally i fish through the mire, as a curiosity thing. but it's quite different
mircea_popescu: works splendidly, too.
mircea_popescu: my spamsolution is that all incoming from emails i never sent to is autodropped. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: parts for a single car, and that car would have broken down on the first trip to Giza."
BingoBoingo: Especially relevant for gabriel_laddel: "Babbage, even with remarkably generous support for his time, could not produce his great arithmetical machine. His idea was sound enough, but construction and maintenance costs were then too heavy. Had a Pharaoh been given detailed and explicit designs of an automobile, and had he understood them completely, it would have taxed the resources of his kingdom to have fashioned the thousands of ☟︎
trinque: I get a terrible hobby.
mircea_popescu: my problem is that middlemen are broken
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes let it be noted that i had no problem witgh spam, in spuite of not using google. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: trinque: Nah Opera/Fastmail beats the shit out of Google ☟︎
BingoBoingo: mass of the inconsequential." << Critical application of actual hypertext
BingoBoingo: s reading might well shy away from an examination calculated to show how much of the previous month's efforts could be produced on call. Mendel's concept of the laws of genetics was lost to the world for a generation because his publication did not reach the few who were capable of grasping and extending it; and this sort of catastrophe is undoubtedly being repeated all about us, as truly significant attainments become lost in the
BingoBoingo: "Professionally our methods of transmitting and reviewing the results of research are generations old and by now are totally inadequate for their purpose. If the aggregate time spent in writing scholarly works and in reading them could be evaluated, the ratio between these amounts of time might well be startling. Those who conscientiously attempt to keep abreast of current thought, even in restricted fields, by close and continuou
mircea_popescu: "femlisp" ? women in tech ?~!
trinque: the turdatron
ben_vulpes: wait, what happened to tls cutting all of your spam to nil?
trinque: ben_vulpes: cron job doing sa-learn on incoming spam is choking the box; while moving I have IRC up there instead of at home, proving... laggy
BingoBoingo: trinque: Fastmail.fm isn't the shittiest. Can't really endorse any email provider, but they are the least condemned as far as I know.
ben_vulpes: trinque: what's happening to your smtp holes?
mircea_popescu: esp the "no sane person should ever guess what "obvious" means for anyone else." part.
trinque: BingoBoingo: I'm about ready to pull the plug on this server and give all smtp over to the enemy
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 01:39:10; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-07-2015#1217142 << doesn't have to be a one size fits all. but if your software can't be built, your software doesn't exist. and it is still upon you to explain how you expect users to use your thing - nobody is going to go do the guesswork of "what the author might have meant", and ESPECIALLY no sane person should ever guess what "obvious" means for anyone else
mircea_popescu: <gabriel_laddel> none of this is hard to code - you hack around until something "clicks" << this ftr is philosophically wrong. in that it reduces to the exact opposite of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=30-07-2015#1217312 ☝︎
gabriel_laddel: all loaded in the same proc, all with access to BLAS, CUDA etc.
gabriel_laddel: for those of you who have not seen femlisp, MGL-MAT and MJR_CALC, the full nifty of this might not be readily apparent.
ben_vulpes: what does 'master lisp proc' mean in this context? the lisp image you run continuously?
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: but goddamnit I need interns. I got maxima loaded into my master lisp proc over the weekend and I'm going to play around with that whenever I have free time. ☟︎
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: you can use it iff you follow the guide
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: I should actually be cutting out options right now, but I'm instead drinking and browsing the net
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: I did the project, they thought it had "too many options" so I'm cutting some out
BingoBoingo: How can one even pretend to have a hypertext spec or its substitute without citing <em>Vannevar Bush</em>
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: something like that
punkman: gabriel_laddel: yeah, don't be ted nelson :P
assbot: As We May Think - Vannevar Bush - The Atlantic ... ( http://bit.ly/1JS7kSD )
BingoBoingo: For the record this is the original and only meaningful spec for hypertext, predates LISP by two decades https://archive.is/ezrwO
gabriel_laddel: punkman: yeah, several people have dropped that link on me
BingoBoingo: <trinque> spamassassin raping my VPS << I don't find email important enough to not outsource
assbot: Project Xanadu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1NoWQAi )
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FYIAD | Aug 26, 2007 ... Top Definition. FYIAD. Fuck You, I'm A Dragon Originated in some lame back-and -forth furry argument, but when you think about it, it's a good ...
BingoBoingo: <gabriel_laddel> whatever, the point is that the structure is available for me to make arbitrary computations against << FYIAD, I don't need structure: I eat, hang, and burn
mircea_popescu: it is a shade better than just intuition :)
trinque: this whole email thing is a turd
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: fuck you and your intuition about things
mircea_popescu: <gabriel_laddel> nano sources: Total Physical Source Lines of Code (SLOC) = 21,577 << win. srsly. ☟︎
gabriel_laddel: whatever, the point is that the structure is available for me to make arbitrary computations against
BingoBoingo: <gabriel_laddel> "I don't want to see people who cite XYZ" << No who cites XYZ is how you make rope to hang
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: bind real eval to nil
BingoBoingo: But that means their publication MUST BE safe, crippled, non-executable characters
gabriel_laddel: "I don't want to see people who cite XYZ"
BingoBoingo: <gabriel_laddel> trinque: I have a listing of programs associated with my PGP identity, you can make references to them, and people will be able to see them (or not) based on my trust relationship with them... << It is essential for WoT to exist that I can safely point at the enemy's words and bury them in sulfur
gabriel_laddel: none of this is hard to code - you hack around until something "clicks"
gabriel_laddel: it will evolve out of whatever the "networking" substrate ends up being and tbh, I don't see what the big deal is?
gabriel_laddel: where :name names the program, :version, the version
gabriel_laddel: trinque: I have a listing of programs associated with my PGP identity, you can make references to them, and people will be able to see them (or not) based on my trust relationship with them. Your "references" can be any arbitary computation, buut probably some standards will evolve (e.g., we don't check sexprs who pass some test of being a plist of the structure (:name ... :version ...)).
trinque: not your particular way of addressing things per server
trinque: define "with respect to me"
trinque: ah well elaborate then
gabriel_laddel: trinque: this is how URLs work already.
trinque: no that sucks
gabriel_laddel: nano sources: Total Physical Source Lines of Code (SLOC) = 21,577
gabriel_laddel: trinque: you can only make a reference with 'respect to me'
trinque: and I want to make reference to that, not copy it
trinque: gabriel_laddel has a CLOS object which represents his number of slithey toves
trinque: yep, and I wanna poke someone's data set with something that specific
mircea_popescu: 50 times a day i go for it on random sites and they're too web 0.5 for it
mircea_popescu: tbh this extended hypertext thing i got on trilema kicks all imaginable butt
BingoBoingo: <gabriel_laddel> I don't see how you'll be able to reference things on WoTnet further than "the joe I know with this pub key" << Publication. Paper and film only have the problem that they are slow and take too much volume for their information density. Why should machines not offer a path at least as safe.
trinque: mircea_popescu: indeed! I don't think gabriel_laddel sees what hypertext is
assbot: The importance of backups, from the other side. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NoWpGf )
gabriel_laddel: or "here are the sources"
gabriel_laddel: I don't see how you'll be able to reference things on WoTnet further than "the joe I know with this pub key"
trinque: I want to make reference to your information, not host it
gabriel_laddel: trinque: PGP identity with a list of programs to run.
trinque: what is the addressing mechanism for a world of clos objects?
trinque: gabriel_laddel: you will not have the whole internet on one machine!
mircea_popescu: (ie, that's the point of a game in the general sense : to not let you solve problems the obvious way. (which in this context would just be skill++ or something equivalent))
trinque: yep, that's sort of how I see them; this interface is butts, I would like to pretend it is not
gabriel_laddel: trinque: Right now I can press C-t m, pull up a "map" of all "research nodes" and "lessons" and right click to get a menu from which I can run the associated program.
mircea_popescu: which is directly that, hair on someone else's shit (aka game server)
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 05:05:13; trinque: I've only so far written macros to deal with the hair of someone else's shit
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1267299 << there is incidentally a very fine use for macros : where you're playing eulora. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 17:43:24; fluffypony: damn the Chinese are getting desperate for profit: http://shanghaiist.com/2015/09/06/fake_paper_rice.php
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: corn, obv. and paper too ! http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=07-09-2015#1265384 ☝︎
BingoBoingo: How does the flow look like
gabriel_laddel: or do you want a spec for how the "dispatch" occurs?
gabriel_laddel: sorry, are you asking what the UI should look like?
gabriel_laddel: trinque: you call a program to display my paper?
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Nah, Chicoms are mixing US corn with polymer to make rice now. Cheapest option
trinque: this the web has, and it is why it blew up.
trinque: gabriel_laddel: how do I refer to your CLOS object which represents a paper you have written? I would like to direct people to it from my CLOS object representing a blog post.
pete_dushenski: i think the rice was paper now
BingoBoingo: Hard to get fat on plastic
mircea_popescu: "angela", stop being a derp, we need chinese speakers for better jobs than mashing hands on keyboards to produce email addresses. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Links displays images, Lynx is the one that doesn't
mircea_popescu: ok this just beats all.
BingoBoingo: Links, lynx, and curl sure, but still how much ought these be trusted??? WIth their stinky libjpeg ☟︎
mircea_popescu: FOR THIS REASON
mircea_popescu: and, of course, curl. that golden standard of all browsers